Posted on 06/04/2005 2:45:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
The Constitution says in Article I, Section 8, "The Congress shall have the power.... To provide for the calling forth the Militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and Repel Invasions;..." Since we are being invaded and the laws of the Union are being violated should the Militia be called up and placed on the borders to protect the laws and the American people?
Yes
No
Undecided
Pass
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=102
The interesting thing about that comment is Brazil. When Lula de Silva was elected there was a clamor here about communism and death and destruction but it hasn't happened. He hasn't been invited to Crawford, but he hasn't collectivized the farms either. As far as I know he hasn't nationalized anything either.
I know, I know, we don't know he won't impose a Castro like Regime in Venezuela. I also don't know what he is doing except by looking through my small window into Venezuela, he is playing by at least some of the established rules. He imposed import controls and the flow of capital out of the country. This is a blow to the Aristos in that they can't live it up in Miami while the peons are starving..... that is until the money abroad runs out. It probably won't stop practice but might crimp their style and get their attention.
In my opinion, as goes Brazil, so goes the continent. We hear the frogs croaking about greatness, while Brazil could easily outpace and outmode them. We should be doing everything in our power to see the middle Class in Brazil is strengthened.
I wager the results would be similar if the poll was taken from scores of millions people from all over this country. Most people I talk to about this are seething and have had enough but don't know what to do about it.
We're getting royally shafted by our politicians and bureaucrats. But this disconnected rumbling from all over will eventually get organized (viz, Minutemen) and become an unstoppable groundswell. Then and only then will our craven political class in both Parties start fearing for their jobs (and maybe more) and hasten to get on board to ride the crest of the wave to yet another election - claiming all the while they were really "for it".
Although I voted "Yes", I don't think we need to call up the General Militia, but as a general principle it is fine. The dirty little secret is, we have enough Active/Guard/Reserve troops available today to do a very nice job of pretty much sealing our borders once our political "servants" find their spines - or somehow rent or otherwise acquire working model of same.
You have made some good points and several extremely bad ones.
Carried to an extreme, by your arguments there would be no jobs in America because production will always be less expensive else where.
The example of Christmas trees is metaphorical for many many labor intensive jobs and services. Slavery being drug into the mix and is a total absurdatity.The whole migrant phenomena is the result of market forces and the resultant pressure on the job market. The market not only accepts but welcomes them with open arms.
You have interjected theory into a situation past the point where a theoretical solution is relevant. A pragmatic solution is required for the problem that allows the workers to work at jobs where there are no Americans to do them in an orderly and legal manner.
In addition to the scarcity of workers to perform many jobs, there is in fact no militia to do close off the borders. The force required to do the job can not be summoned from the existing National guard forces because it does not exist in afoprm that will permit the action.
My defense of migrants is not made because I think open borders is a good policy. My thoughts are pragmatic realism recognizing what I percieve as reality. The intense pressure from poverty to wealth devided by a line in space will not be solved by trying to shut down the border. The pressure is too great and there will always be major leakage.
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