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To leaders in Alice's magical land, it was a 'yes' (EU CONSTITUTION)
The Times ^ | June 3, 2005 | Anthony Browne

Posted on 06/03/2005 3:57:55 PM PDT by MadIvan

THE warped-cross “Berlaymonster” headquarters of the European Commission was still standing yesterday. The announcements poured out — on the welfare of broiler chickens, carbon dioxide trading schemes, telephone regulation and approval for the takeover of a Finnish copper company.

Workmen continued constructing vast new offices for the Council of Ministers. The subsidised canteens echoed with the polylingual chatter of well-heeled functionaries.

The EU has been plunged into its deepest crisis for fifty years after two of its founding members overwhelmingly rejected its proposed constitution. But in Europe’s capital there was little sign that anything had changed. Berlaymont was a place in denial.

Although 54 per cent of the French voted “non”, and 62 per cent of the Dutch said “nee”, few were prepared to admit that Europe’s elite had lost touch with the people, and that in their relentless drive for integration they had left their citizens far behind. In the Alice-in-Wonderland world of Brussels “no” has been interpreted as “yes”.

As Jean-Claude Juncker, the Prime Minister of Luxembourg, which holds the EU’s rotating presidency, said after the French vote: “If we were to add up all the votes of those who wanted ‘more Europe’ as a ‘yes’, then I think that we would have had a ‘yes’ vote.”

In her Ikea-furnished office, Margot Wallström, the Commission’s Swedish VicePresident, produced a poll showing that 57 per cent of the French who rejected the constitution actually wanted more European integration. “A majority who said ‘no’ are favourable to the whole European project,” she insisted. “It is not that they have said no to the idea of European integration. It is not a rejection of the European project.”

The lesson was that the EU needed to create more European feeling in its citizens, she said. “We have to build more meeting places. We have to create a European public space. We need a European debate. There are still hardly any media that are truly European. For political parties, we need a political system that can work more at a European level.”

Although French and Dutch polls showed that the more people knew about the constitution, the more likely they were to vote “no”, Mrs Wallström insisted that the problem was ignorance. “It is serious when seven out of ten Europeans still say they know little about Europe. It will take a lot of leadership to create more knowledge,” she said. Mr Juncker said of his tiny country: “We are like teachers, explaining the ins and outs of the new constitution.”

When Françoise le Bail, the Commission spokeswoman, explained to the Brussels press corps the morning after the French vote why “no” did not really mean “no” — because people voted “no” for so many different reasons — an American journalist burst out: “In my country we have a saying, ‘W hat part of no don’t you understand?’ You don’t seem to understand any part of no.”

Three days later, after the Dutch rejected the constitution in far greater numbers than the French, and in far greater numbers than anyone expected, Jan Peter Balkenende, the Prime Minister, said: “I am very disappointed, but there are positive aspects — like the high turnout and the fact we had a debate.”

But his Government clearly lost the debate, and the people turned out in high numbers — twice the rate at last year’s European elections — to tell it so. Even after the Dutch defeat, European political leaders insisted that the vote was not against the constitution. The European Green Party rushed out a statement saying: “ ‘No’ in France and Holland does not mean ‘no’ to the European constitution.”

Grazia Francescato, the party spokesman, added: “It is evident that this ‘no’ vote is not a real ‘no’ against the constitution, but a vote of protest against . . . the neoliberal policies of their governments.”

Surveys suggest that the French voted against the treaty because they are opposed to the EU’s free-market economic policies, worried about enlargement and wanted to punish the unpopular President Chirac. In the Netherlands, surveys indicated that the Dutch protested against EU enlargement, the euro, the cost of the EU, its remoteness, its bureaucracy and just about any other EU complaint they could think of.

But for Mr Juncker this did not mean they or the French were annoyed at the EU. He said: “We have a range of contradictory reasons behind the ‘no’ vote. The arguments in France contradict other arguments in France. Now there are another set of contradictions between arguments in the Netherlands.” His conclusion was that “we need to continue with our ambitious projects” .

An Irish journalist retorted: “This reminds me of the Titanic, where the orchestra carried on playing.” Nigel Farage, the leader of the UK Independence Party in the European Parliament, hid at the back and listened to the EU defending itself. “It’s wonderful, just wonderful,” he laughed. “They just don’t get it, do they? They just don’t get it.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; eu; euconstitution; eurofreude; euronoia
Every time the EU bureaucrats refuse to accept that "no" means "No", it only angers the people of Europe more.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 06/03/2005 3:57:56 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; pax_et_bonum; Alkhin; agrace; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/03/2005 3:58:18 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan; All
This, and other related subjects, have been added to this keyword database for easy reference: KEYWORDS:  EUROFREUDE
3 posted on 06/03/2005 4:03:46 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: MadIvan
The self-deception of these self-appointed petty barons and earls is truly staggering. The habits that lead to such self-deception have been apparent all along. It was two months ago that some European reporters who were doing their job, found widespread fraud in parliamentary discretionary accounts.

Still, the EU Parliament brushed off any suggestions that those accounts have regular, independent audits. Whether they are French or not, these guys ACT French. When caught in a lie, they draw themselves up. look down their noses, and attack their attackers as lesser people not to be replied upon.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "60 Million Frenchmen Can't be Wrong"

4 posted on 06/03/2005 4:38:01 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (For copies of my speech, "Dealing with Outlaw Judges," please Freepmail me.)
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To: backhoe

I've been happily keywording EUROFREUDE where appropriate as well!


5 posted on 06/03/2005 4:41:04 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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To: MadIvan

"Every time the EU bureaucrats refuse to accept that "no" means "No", it only angers the people of Europe more."

It reminds me of the democrat party. The spin becomes the truth to the kool-aid drinkers and everyone who does not believe as they do are simply too stupid for their votes to count. To bad the Euro-crats can't blame religion or republican "lies" for their woes.

The scary point this articles underscores is that these people fully intend to proceed, mandate or no. Intentions aside, these people are truly totalitarian in their thinking.


6 posted on 06/03/2005 4:49:29 PM PDT by Owl558 (Please excuse my spelling)
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To: thoughtomator
I've been happily keywording EUROFREUDE where appropriate as well...

Cool!

This may prove a more Earth-shaking event than is apparent as it goes down.
I really thought the whole of Europe had bred and bled out their more American-like traits, and were rushing to trade what freedoms & sovereignty they had left to control by a pile of unelected ( and hence uaccountable & uncontrollable ) bureaucrats in Brussells.

It's amusing to watch the elites and opinion-peddlers twist themselves in knots trying to explain this away.

7 posted on 06/03/2005 4:50:48 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: backhoe

I've also invented a new word for the distinctly European manifestation of socialism, corruption, and appeasement: "Euronoia" =)


8 posted on 06/03/2005 4:52:11 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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To: MadIvan
why “no” did not really mean “no”

Sounds like a horny young man with a reluctant date.

9 posted on 06/03/2005 4:57:01 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: MadIvan
So, what do you predict will happen as the Eurocrats continue with their ambitious project in spite of the people rejecting it?
10 posted on 06/03/2005 5:01:33 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: thoughtomator
I've also invented a new word for the distinctly European manifestation of socialism, corruption, and appeasement: "Euronoia" =)

That should leave a mark!

11 posted on 06/03/2005 5:06:11 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: backhoe

"The French are always reticent to surrender to the wishes of their friends and always more than willing to surrender to the wishes of their enemies."


12 posted on 06/03/2005 5:45:22 PM PDT by ncountylee
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To: MadIvan
We have to build more meeting places. We have to create a European public space. We need a European debate. There are still hardly any media that are truly European

Sorry honey. You ain't got a country!

13 posted on 06/03/2005 6:16:17 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: MadIvan

Thanks for the Ping.

Cheers,

knews hound

http://knewshound.blogspot.com/


14 posted on 06/06/2005 8:40:35 AM PDT by knews_hound (Out of the NIC ,into the Router, out to the Cloud....Nothing but 'Net)
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