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What did W. Mark Felt know, and when did he know it?- (Felt might be an imposter,taking the fall)
JEWISH WORLD REVIEW.COM ^ | JUNE 2, 2005 | KEITH OLBERMANN

Posted on 06/02/2005 8:48:23 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Deep Throat is Mark Felt, the former deputy associate director of the FBI — except for the parts of Deep Throat that clearly aren't Mark Felt, like all the stuff Throat supposedly confirmed after Felt left the FBI in June, 1973.

Well, that's going to be something of a problem, isn't it?

Dean analyzed the meetings Woodward describes in All The Presidents' Men and methodically analyzes what others have glossed over. For Woodward's version to be literally correct, his source had to be able to have access to specific information (and disinformation — Dean estimated last night that half of what Throat told Woodward was materially wrong) at specific times. He also had to be physically in Washington to conduct the meetings Woodward wrote about in the book, which were presumably relied upon in the vital day-to-day coverage he and Bernstein wrote for the Post in 1972, 1973, and 1974.

For us, he offered the startling fact that possibly the most vital information Throat gave Woodward — that there were "erasures" on at least one of the surreptitious tapes of Richard Nixon's Oval Office conversations (the infamous "18 minute gap") — was dispensed in November, 1973 — nearly five months after Felt had left his position in the FBI.

So where did Felt-Throat get that information? Gossip? Where from?

"How is he going to explain Felt having some of the information he had," Dean continued, "when it just isn't in the realm of possibility that he had access to it, even as third or fourth hand hearsay?"

Dean's e-book for Salon three years ago was called Unmasking Deep Throat, and unlike all the other attempts to identify Throat, it is meticulous and scholarly.

To paraphrase [Senator] Baker, "What did Deep Throat know and when did he know it?"

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bernstein; bobwoodward; deepthroat; deepthroatdodo; deepthroatredux; deepthroatrevenge; fbi; feltgate; johndean; markfelt; richardnixon; washingtonpost; whitehouse
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To: Arkie2
What person would be important enough to them to let Felt take credit at this point?

Not one person, but at least three people "important" enough: Woodward, Berstein and Bradlee.

21 posted on 06/02/2005 9:19:29 PM PDT by Rokurota (.)
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To: Rokurota

Guess I'm being a little stupid here but how does this protect them? You're implying there was no deep throat? They made it all up?

They hit too close to home several times not to have an inside source. The only rationale I can see for assigning one person as deep throat was that it made it more dramatically effective. If that's the reason they said there's only one deep throat it won't necessarily tarnish their image.


22 posted on 06/02/2005 9:23:43 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: Arkie2
They hit too close to home several times not to have an inside source.

And they completely missed the mark a lot. It's amazing to me that reporters are considered great if they equal the proverbial broken clock. Printing one truth does not make up for ten lies.

23 posted on 06/02/2005 9:27:03 PM PDT by Rokurota (.)
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To: Arkie2
...there was no deep throat? They made it all up?

"Deep Throat" may have been fictitious composite figure used by Woodward and Bernstein as a cover for every leak that they acquired from every source.

24 posted on 06/02/2005 9:31:19 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Rokurota

While I agree with you it doesn't explain why they need Felt to be deep throat and why that protects their image.


25 posted on 06/02/2005 9:31:39 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: Rokurota
Printing one truth does not make up for ten lies.

Especially if the same dishonest journalists are earning their money through accusing politicians of lying.

26 posted on 06/02/2005 9:35:32 PM PDT by syriacus (MSM isn't idolizing Felt 100%. They must be afraid that some Liberal rocks will be turned over.)
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To: Arkie2
While I agree with you it doesn't explain why they need Felt to be deep throat and why that protects their image.

Haven't you heard? Felt has trouble remembering anything. They can say what they want of him...he doesn't remember.

I don't know what is true. But it is suspicious that DT kept silent for so long and now he comes out but can't remember anything.

27 posted on 06/02/2005 9:38:16 PM PDT by Rokurota (.)
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To: CHARLITE

You're going to go by Keith Olbermann and John Dean?

My advice is don't.


28 posted on 06/02/2005 9:38:46 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: CHARLITE
Something is beginning to look very contrived about Mark Felt's sudden "coming out"

By the way, his "sudden" coming out has been in the works since at least 2002. Per multiple sources.

29 posted on 06/02/2005 9:39:47 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Arkie2

>What person would be important enough to them to let Felt take credit at this point?<

Woodstein.


30 posted on 06/02/2005 9:40:26 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: CHARLITE
I always expected that when Woodward and Berstein named Deep Throat, it would be someone who they felt that by naming could cause the most residual harm to conservatism. If who they named was in fact the real Deep Throat, well that would be a coincidence.
31 posted on 06/02/2005 9:40:48 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Rokurota

I see on another thread that a possible explanation for the revelation now is simply to change the conversation from modern media follies to a "glorious" past. I can see haw Woodstein and the WAPOST would like to change the subject given that the WAPOST owns Newsweek. At least that's logical.


32 posted on 06/02/2005 9:41:07 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: Arkie2

>What person would be important enough to them to let Felt take credit at this point?<

Woodstein.


33 posted on 06/02/2005 9:41:25 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Howlin

I think Dean had his heart set on it being a Nixon insider like Haig or Buchanan and can't stand that it's Felt.

Olbermann will follow Dean's lead.


34 posted on 06/02/2005 9:41:36 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: fso301
I always expected that when Woodward and Berstein named Deep Throat, it would be someone who they felt that by naming could cause the most residual harm to conservatism.

Clearly John Dean was expecting the same. Since that didn't happen he's out there stirring the conspiracy pot.

35 posted on 06/02/2005 9:45:01 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Calpernia; Liz
I also think Felt is a 'fall guy'. ::just my opinion::

I think it would help to have a timeline of what Woodward says Deep Throat told him and when, as well as a list of descriptions Woodward used for Deep Throat, to see how consistently the results fit with Felt=DT equation. I've been putting something like this together but won't be done for a bit yet. In any case, whether Felt was Deep Throat or not, some key questions about Watergate remain unanswered, particularly about the burglary itself and about the role of John Dean.

Regarding the transcript, I've seen pieces of that before, but not read the whole thing in context, which I'd want to do before trying to interpret it.

36 posted on 06/02/2005 9:46:05 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: CHARLITE
I'm glad you've posted this.

There was a discussion about Felt's knowledge of the erasures on Batchelor's show tonight, but I only heard a snippet of the discussion.

Batchelor and his guest were wondering how Felt could have learned about the erasures, after he left the FBI. They were also saying, people who were aware of the *"deliberate"* erasures were legally bound to give the information to the investigators connected with the Grand Jury.

*as described in All the President's Men

37 posted on 06/02/2005 9:48:29 PM PDT by syriacus (MSM isn't idolizing Felt 100%. They must be afraid that some Liberal rocks will be turned over.)
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To: Calpernia
Nixon: "Christ, put a Jew in there?”

I might be wrong, but just now, on the Larry King rerun, the transcript seemed to say...

Christ, Hoover put a Jew in there?

Was Nixon expressing surprise because he thought Hoover was an anti-Semite?

38 posted on 06/02/2005 9:56:04 PM PDT by syriacus (MSM isn't idolizing Felt 100%. They must be afraid that some Liberal rocks will be turned over.)
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To: cyncooper
I thought all along that Deep Throat was someone inside the White House. Dean's contention that this fellow could not possibly have had access to a lot of the information he is supposed to have related to "Woodstein" only confirms what I've consistently believed.

The conjecture that this sudden "revelation" could be a ploy, to get Newsweek out of all of its hot water, and to "glorify" the golden days of the liberal media, which brought down a Republican president, makes sense to me.

They grab a forgetful 91 year old who can barely stand up at his front door, and who is waving at reporters and photographers as though he thinks they are representatives of PUBLISHER'S CLEARING HOUSE, coming to hand him his winning check.......and they tell us, VOILA! This is "Deep Throat!"

Make no mistake. This media and this current bunch of Democrat "leaders" (who aren't worthy of the term) are dreaming of bringing down yet another Republican president.

I'm not convinced that this is DT at all. I sense that whoever cooked this up might have "stepped in it," as Rush would say.

Char :)

39 posted on 06/02/2005 9:56:55 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Why do we permit seditious, hateful messages to be shouted from muslim pulpits in America?)
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To: syriacus

I thought I'd seen that line transcribed differently elsewhere, also.


40 posted on 06/02/2005 10:01:16 PM PDT by Fedora
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