Posted on 05/31/2005 7:36:57 PM PDT by BringBackMyHUAC
Forget the communists. It is well established that Roy Cohn a then notorious homo sexual was involved in arranging parties for J Edgar. His life long companion while he was at the FBI was a notorious flamer. Many, many witnesses have come forward after his death. If you have any doubt, look at his lack of attention to going after the mob. The only time the gov't went after the mob was when RFK was president. It all stopped once JFK was assassinated.
The fact that Hoover blackmailed JFK into giving LBJ the VP slot was told many years after the fact by JFK's secretary. In addition, there are pictures from that day showing RFK and JFK very distraught. There is no question that the FBI was bugging and taking pictures of Judith Exner.
Taking all of these facts together, the case is very strong. And of course there was no greater anti-commi than Roy Cohn. So believe what you like.
To qoute Eric Hoffer,
A war is not won if the defeated enemy has not been turned into a friend.
"Hoover was a notorious buggerer, often known to wear a dress and engage in unspeakable acts on other men. He was in the pocket of Frank Costello among other Mafia dons and was a compulsive gambler, who's only saving grace was that the mob would fix the races so he would win. As a result, he reached an agreement with the Mob. In exchange for denying the existence and therefore leaving the mob in peace, they would fix his races and not publish a picture of J. Edgar himself engaging in oral sex with another man. This is all documented and has been the subject of numerous expose's."
False. Utterly, screamingly false. TOTAL BS. Congratulations - you've bought Leftist BS hook, line and sinker.
Read this article (from National Review):
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n22_v43/ai_11662759
Qwinn
bump
That last link relates directly to your smears only on the matter of the New York Post spending half a million dollars trying to prove your smears, and gave up in frustration
This source, however, proves the falsity of everything else you claimed:
http://hnn.us/articles/814.html
Qwinn
ROTF......
Agreed on all counts.
Thanks for the post and heads up. :)
Interesting. Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
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"BringBackMyHuac" considers Richard Nixon a "sell-out" and Felt a "hero."
Well. Putting aside Felt (even though he was an unprincipled rat), and concentrating on Nixon as a "sell-out" we find the following:
The only time the House Un-American Activities Committee was considered anything other than a buffoonish joke by pretty much everyone in the country Left, Right, & Center was when a young congressman from California's 12th district successfully maneuvered a communist spy and traitor by the name of Alger Hiss into perjuring himself before it. Irony #1.
It was for uncovering this snooty paladin of the Democrat Party establishment and darling of the liberal media for the contemptible skunk that he was that earned that young congressman the undying enmity of both--an enmity that continues right on to this day a full eleven years after his death. Irony #2.
Largely as a result of the prominence this young congressman gained for his work in exposing this communist traitor & spy (and, for once, making HUAC actually look almost respectable), he went on to the Senate and shortly after that to the Vice-presidency of the United States. In 1960 he had a presidential election stolen from him. The crew that stole it then spent the next eight years, under the tutelage of two different administrations, dribbling forces into Vietnam to fight a war they had no intention of "winning" in any conventional sense; they were playing "not to lose," which is a sure strategy for defeat. Here the ironies really start to get thick.
By 1969, this figure of hatred for the Democrats and, especially, the liberal media was back, and in the Oval Office. He'd inherited a war he hadn't started, and would never have conducted in the manner it was being waged, from the team that'd been able to launch it by swindling him out of his victory eight years earlier. He then proceeded to win that war, without widening it. When the last American combat forces departed Vietnam in early 1973, the North Vietnamese military was in shambles; South Vietnam was free; the ARVN was, if not an exceptional fighting force, at least a competent one capable of defending the South as long as they were reliably resupplied and reequipped by the United States and backed by U.S. Airpower--which is precisely the model that had (and has) worked so successfully in another conflict on the Korean peninsula twenty years previous, when a former California congressman just happened to be Vice President.
In the meantime, and quite apart from the conflict in Vietnam, a prescient gaze at the world scene circa 1969 showed a ripe opportunity to sow mischief in the "Communist Bloc": the two communist superpowers, China & the Soviet Union, were at each others throats diplomatically, and on the brink of open warfare on several occasions. Exploiting these divisions, the former California congressman, now President, accomplished a successful "two-fer": at the start of his term, there were more Russian combat divisions in Eastern Europe facing NATO than on the Manchurian border facing China; by the time he left office, that ratio was almost precisely reversed; China's massive markets were opened, slowly, to capitalism and all the goodies that come with it for American business & commerce; and the seeds to ultimately undermine the Communist system--over years--were first sown.
And the Soviet Union was setup perfectly for the economic ruination of their system that would commence in the 1980's under the resolute leadership of a former Governor from California.
Flush with success, this President who had accomplished so much coasted to a well-deserved landslide reelection in the happy year of 1972. The hatred of his devout enemies, carried over from those long-ago HUAC hearings that had exposed one of their dandy own as a rank traitor to his country, swelled, flared, and sizzled. Their resentments had been gathering force, nursed by their own innate guilt at having been unwitting accomplices to that singular act of proved treason, for years; and at that exact juncture, the President of the United States, in his own words, "handed them a sword."
And (to paraphrase the 37th President himself) they plucked it up, used it with gleeful relish, and, in their partisan selfishness & rancor, twisted it; sadly the fallout was not confined to just one ruined political career. South Vietnam was financially abandoned and, lacking needed American support, left to its inevitable fate at the hands of the ruthless communist regime in the North; Cambodia was ravaged by the larger forces unleashed in the wake of Saigon's collapse; the Soviet Union, sensing American weakness in the fallout, exported "revolution" to Angola, Central America, and invaded Afghanistan outright; in the United States the pathetic onetime tenure of James Earl Carter was endured; the fall of the Berlin Wall and liberation of Eastern Europe was delayed.
All of this is what Mr. Felt aided & abetted in bringing about, in his own small way, by skulking around in a garage basement with Bob Woodward in base violation of the oath he'd sworn to uphold when he joined the FBI.
This is what any sensible reading of history tells us.
Some "hero" he was, alrighty.../extreme contemptuous sarcasm.
Get real.
I think you meant never testified [at the Watergate hearings]. Felt was not some powerless bureaucrat mired at the bottom of the FBI. Felt was the number 2 guy who could have used an internal FBI office to report anonymously these alleged crimes or he could have resigned and gone public. The fact that he never even testified before the Watergate Commission shows what a coward he was.
I would also add that Felt never disclosed that he was Deep Throat until now. Why? Because he knew that he committed a crime by disclosing privileged information to the press. Felt was essentially the clearing house for all of the information pertaining to this investigation. He was not a disinterested party. He should have recused himself at the very least.
If you read Pres. Reagan's pardon, Felt really did step forward to take the heat so his subordinates wouldn't have to. He is a hero of the Cold War, and nothing will change that.
I read the pardon, but Felt is no hero in my mind. It is like saying that Benedict Arnold was a hero of the French and Indian wars and then just compartmentalize those actions from what he did during the Revolutionary War. Felt was a cowardly, disgruntled, vindictive bureaucrat who took down a President.
Reagan had just taken office. He pardoned Miller and Felt the same way Carter pardoned the Vietnam draft evaders and desserters. I bet Reagan would not have pardoned Felt if he knew that he was Deep Throat.
But I have a feeling his reasons stemmed from the War on Terror that was being prosecuted at the time.
There was no WOT, at least at that time. This was domestic terror aimed at the USG and its institutions, mainly due to the opposition to the Vietnam War and the Civil Rights struggle. Comparing it to what is going on now with AQ and militant Islam,global terrorism, is erroneous.
Besides, Nixon was an unprincipled sellout. He went to Red China, he buried the investigations that would have rooted-out the Commies riddled throughout the US government...I could go on and on. I think there will be many surprises as this story unfolds. And almost all of them will embarrass the Left.
I don't hold the same view you do of Nixon. I am surprised about your description of Nixon as "an unprincipled sellout" given your moniker and Nixon's involvement with HUAC and the Hiss case. I have no problem with what Nixon did with China. It was just a recognition of reality and the fact that a nation of about a billion people had to be dealt with.
Of course, Reagan knew nothing at the time about Felt's, now infamous, involvement with Wood/Bern/WashPo as Deepthroat. I found particularly interesting last night, Pat Buchanon's comments and 'take' of the unmasking on MSNBC: Felt [.... therefore, if all the current revelations are correct...] participated as Deepthroat because he was passed over for promotion by Nixon? In other words, this was a petty vendetta on his part. (?)
But only the lefties celebrate a law breaking FBI agent that violated his oath.
I bet you dollars to donuts that Deep Throat doesn't give a fig that they were pardoned.
"The minute he talks about anything regarding the sleezy Dums......he will become, senile, dillusional etc etc. The msm has already figured out how they will handle this one."
He's the big celeb now. Movie rights. Book rights. Party invites. But if he ignores the fact about Clinton's pardons, then he trashes himself. Zero credibility at that point. He's got a problem down the road.
If anyone has any doubt of the damage Felt enabled, needs to read Ben Stein's article below:
Deep Throat and Genocide
The American Spectator ^ | 6-1-05 | Ben Stein
Posted on 06/01/2005 5:55:15 AM PDT by veronica
Re: The "news" that former FBI agent Mark Felt broke the law, broke his code of ethics, broke his oath and was the main source for Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward's articles that helped depose Richard Nixon, a few thoughts.
Can anyone even remember now what Nixon did that was so terrible? He ended the war in Vietnam, brought home the POW's, ended the war in the Mideast, opened relations with China, started the first nuclear weapons reduction treaty, saved Eretz Israel's life, started the Environmental Protection Administration. Does anyone remember what he did that was bad?
Oh, now I remember. He lied. He was a politician who lied. How remarkable. He lied to protect his subordinates who were covering up a ridiculous burglary that no one to this date has any clue about its purpose. He lied so he could stay in office and keep his agenda of peace going. That was his crime. He was a peacemaker and he wanted to make a world where there was a generation of peace. And he succeeded.
That is his legacy. He was a peacemaker. He was a lying, conniving, covering up peacemaker. He was not a lying, conniving drug addict like JFK, a lying, conniving war starter like LBJ, a lying conniving seducer like Clinton -- a lying conniving peacemaker. That is Nixon's kharma.
When his enemies brought him down, and they had been laying for him since he proved that Alger Hiss was a traitor, since Alger Hiss was their fair-haired boy, this is what they bought for themselves in the Kharma Supermarket that is life:
1.) The defeat of the South Vietnamese government with decades of death and hardship for the people of Vietnam.
2.) The assumption of power in Cambodia by the bloodiest government of all time, the Khmer Rouge, who killed a third of their own people, often by making children beat their own parents to death. No one doubts RN would never have let this happen.
So, this is the great boast of the enemies of Richard Nixon, including Mark Felt: they made the conditions necessary for the Cambodian genocide. If there is such a thing as kharma, if there is such a thing as justice in this life of the next, Mark Felt has bought himself the worst future of any man on this earth. And Bob Woodward is right behind him, with Ben Bradlee bringing up the rear. Out of their smug arrogance and contempt, they hatched the worst nightmare imaginable: genocide. I hope they are happy now -- because their future looks pretty bleak to me.
Ben Stein is a writer, actor, economist, and lawyer in Beverly Hills and Malibu, and author of "Ben Stein's Diary" each month in The American Spectator.
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