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Payday loan sharks prey on military personnel
CFP ^ | May 31, 2005 | Judi McLeod

Posted on 05/31/2005 10:01:56 AM PDT by MikeEdwards

BNP Paribas, Saddam Hussein’s favourite bank, is in the payday loan shark business, finding many of its customers from within the ranks of American military personal. Keeping it confidential which companies it is involved with on the new business front, the bank is operating with impunity.

In its BNP-Paribas Watch, www.innercitypress.org reports that BNP is staying mum on which companies it is involved in on a flourishing new cottage industry in the U.S.: 7-11-style payday loan type operations.

As prolific as dandelions in spring, payday loan storefront operations are thick around military bases.

An underwear clad Saddam may be lingering in a jail, but it seems that his former favoured ATM machine has a foot in where he would like his to be.

By all accounts, it’s a brisk business. Considered by consumer advocates as modern day loansharks, payday loan operators are opening storefront operations across the American landscape. Here’s the kicker: the highest known density of the payday loan shark operations are concentrated around military facilities.

Preying on the vulnerable, the loan sharks are plunging soldiers as young as their early 20s into crushing debt.

"They raped me financially," airman 1st class Noelle Buessing told the Tucson Citizen.

Tucson legislators and consumer advocates say that the payday loan sharks are "a threat to the financial health of the 6,500 military personnel at Davis-Monthan AFB".

Arizona is far from being the only state where 7-11-style payday loan storefronts are doing brisk business. . . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: day; loans; military; pay; payday; personnel; usury
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1 posted on 05/31/2005 10:01:56 AM PDT by MikeEdwards
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To: MikeEdwards

sorry, but if an adult gets him/her self into a financial bind by not living within their means, i have little sympathy for them. no matter who their employer may be.

these folks ain't stupid, they know what they're getting into.


2 posted on 05/31/2005 10:05:19 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: MikeEdwards

Loan sharks near a military base. . . ?

Whoa. . .when did that happen?


3 posted on 05/31/2005 10:05:23 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: MikeEdwards
Debt is a bad idea, except for houses and medical expenses, where you don't have much choice.

If you have to go into debt for a car, at least buy a used one and get it paid off ASAP.

Why do so many people not know this?

If you can't pay for it, don't buy it, unless you like being a slave.

4 posted on 05/31/2005 10:05:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: MikeEdwards

These companies are some of the lowest of the low... States need to reel these bastards in big time.

You want to know if a neighborhood is on the upswing or a decline.. just look for one of these shops.. if one shows up in your neighborhood, you neighborhood is on the way down.


5 posted on 05/31/2005 10:08:21 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: MikeEdwards

Calling these guys loan sharks is an insult to mobsters. These payday loan guys don't count any of the roll over fee towards your principle, at least loan sharks count a very small percentage of your vig as principle.


6 posted on 05/31/2005 10:10:13 AM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: camle

I agree with you, but people didn't borrow 1K and in a few months owe 2-3K back before. The way they compound interest and penalties is far worse than any mobster did. At least the mob was polite about it for a while, wanting your business again. These things are a blight because they will loan to anyone, even knowing it will destroy them in the process. At least a bank will do the right thing and say no to you.


7 posted on 05/31/2005 10:13:03 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for not reading the whole article since 1999)
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To: MikeEdwards

Hell, this is mild. When I was in the army back in the 50's, the ranks were full of loan sharks (some were non-coms)who loaned money at the rate of 1 for 2 back. If a GI borrowed 10 bucks, he had to pay back 20 come payday at end of that month.

These loan sharks did not hesitate to use violence by having hired thugs beat up late/non payers.


8 posted on 05/31/2005 10:17:07 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: camle

Some of the enlisted personnel aren't too sharp -- barely got their GEDs, and I'm not sure even that's required. They probably can begin to figure out the math behind the compounding of these high interest rates. However, more senior military personnel ought to be free to spell things out for them, including naming names of lenders they should steer clear of. I really doubt officers are allowed to tell subordinates, in any official forum "Steer clear of _____, it's a rip-off".


9 posted on 05/31/2005 10:21:39 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Your points are valid but a bit extreme IMO. Debt is a marvelous tool to obtain any durable item. The key to stay out of trouble is to plan on owning the item for a longer period of time than the term of the loan. There is little danger, and much to be gained, in taking four years to pay for a car that you plan to drive for at least five years.


10 posted on 05/31/2005 10:26:39 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (End dependence on foreign oil- put a Slowpoke in your basement)
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To: Abathar

you are corrrect, but no one twisted their arms and forced them to borrow the money. all the info was there and they ignored it.


11 posted on 05/31/2005 10:29:24 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Squawk 8888
There is little danger, and much to be gained, in taking four years to pay for a car that you plan to drive for at least five years.

There is much danger if you lose your job in the meantime.

There is no danger, however, in saving enough money to pay cash for a new car, and driving the old one until you do.

The satisfaction and sense of well-being that come from being debt-free are... shall I say it... "priceless."

12 posted on 05/31/2005 10:29:41 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

i'm sure every base has it's "off limits" places, but many don't listen. but an adult is an adult and if they're smart enough to fire a weapon in my defense, then they ought to be smart enough to know what they are getting into.


13 posted on 05/31/2005 10:31:10 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Gunrunner2
Loan sharks near a military base. . . ?

Yes, and I believe you can pay $5000 "rent" on a home theater system, with the option to eventually buy it.

14 posted on 05/31/2005 10:32:26 AM PDT by Lou L
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To: camle
>I<"you are correct, but no one twisted their arms and forced them to borrow the money. all the info was there and they ignored it">/I<>p<

The problem I see is that we have never had this before, so the people who never had the self control NOT to borrow the money were never given the chance. A lot of people should never get a credit card and end up going bankrupt because of it. The fact is a lot of young people don't have the self control to have these things around and not use them. For a lot of young people the need / want problem is the real problem, they feel that if they want something that they NEED it too.
15 posted on 05/31/2005 10:45:50 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for not reading the whole article since 1999)
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To: HamiltonJay
These companies are some of the lowest of the low... States need to reel these bastards in big time.

Absolutely! Another thing that ticks me off is overpricing of goods and services. I ran low on gas the other day in the middle of BF Texas, and had to pay $2.66 a gallon for gas! The bastards were preying on my helplessness and lack of planning! States need to regulate prices! The same with prices of milk and stuff at convenience stores, they need to be regulated! Just because they are CONVENIENT doesn't mean they have the right to charge a premium for it! And don't get me started about how much it costs to see a movie these days! I think that a movie should be capped at $5, the soft drinks at $1, and the popcorn at $2. Come on states, what good are you if you can't regulate prices??

I hope the /sarc isn't necessary here.
16 posted on 05/31/2005 10:49:11 AM PDT by armydoc
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To: Abathar

baloney. we've always had this trouble. there have always been those quick to lend at high rates, and those gullible enough to borrow from them.


17 posted on 05/31/2005 10:51:35 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Gunrunner2
Loan sharks near a military base. . . ?

Whoa. . .when did that happen?

Yeah, they used to live in the barracks.

18 posted on 05/31/2005 10:52:52 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS, Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: armydoc

The gubmint needs to regulate sarcasm! Now!


19 posted on 05/31/2005 10:53:29 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: camle

While I agree that personal responsibility must be taken,the majority of these folks are very young!I think the military should counsel them against the practice of"robbing peter to pay paul",or advise them that they definitely have a future in POLITICS!!!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 05/31/2005 10:55:05 AM PDT by bandleader
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