Yahoo! The lawmakers and anti's think they are so smart.
Now the people are finally stepping up and slapping back. I love it! 
And it made the NEWS!!!!
Posted on 05/30/2005 9:21:34 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
APPLETON, WI (AP) - Two groups have backed out of plans to bring their conventions here because of a ban on smoking set to take effect July 1, according to the Fox Cities Convention & Visitors Bureau.
The bureau's executive director, Lynn Peters, declined to name the groups, but The Post-Crescent of Appleton said one was a scotch-and-cigar-loving sportsmen's association and the other a military group with lots of older smokers as members.
Voters approved the ban last April on smoking in all indoor workplaces, including bars, restaurants and meeting rooms. But a group of business owners has filed a lawsuit challenging the ban and claim they will lose business.
At the Radisson Paper Valley Hotel, general manager Jay Schumerth said he hasn't had any major cancellations - there are stiff penalties - but he wonders whether the city will lose bookings in the long term.
Peters said the ban comes at a difficult time for convention business.
"They have so many choices, they don't have to make any concessions," she said.
The 38 business owners challenging the smoking ban claim it violates state law because it repealed parts of an existing ban affecting city-owned buildings.
Madison business owners need to grow some 'nads, too. I can't believe how the City railroads them time and time again. (I know this is Appleton; Madison is pushing for a Smoking Ban, too.)
Going out in public used to involve some comprimises all around. Now one side in this anti-tobacco jihad is no longer willing to treat other adults as thinking capable beings. Who is acting the spoiled child here? Every state and city with this no compromise attitude should be boycotted.
Each time leftist try to control human behavior they run into a problem. Their solution is not to accommodate human behavior but to pass even more restrictive laws to try to enforce the initial ones. In Dallas it is a $500 fine on the smoker, not the establishment, if caught. I am against drug use but I sometimes think our WOD does more harm than the problem. It certainly makes many unsavory characters enormously rich, rich enough to control some governments.
Hmm..the title is correct. There isn't a state wide smoking ban.
Why?
She probably didn't feel comfortable giving the names to a reporter without having been given specific permission to do so.
Regardless, just the fact it is being made public that groups have changed venues because of the ban is a good first step in getting this issue more out front and public.
FWIW, if they're not willing to name the groups, I'm not sure that facts are involved :)
"...but The Post-Crescent of Appleton said one was a scotch-and-cigar-loving sportsmen's association and the other a military group with lots of older smokers as members."
An educated guess would be an NRA Convention and some sort of military reunion for Retirees. Maybe the annual Red Arrow Brigade get together?
I understand your point.
However, just remember no facts were ever involved to get these bans passed in the first place!!!!!!
Military vets - if you smoke, you're not welcome in liberal lala land.
Just watched the HBO mini-series with Paul Newman, his wife Joanne and Ed Harris among others. Nary a puff from anybody! Breath of fresh air! Guess that Maine smoking ban is really working!
Stars like Bogie looked really sexy smoking until it killed'em.
Just watched the HBO mini-series with Paul Newman, his wife Joanne and Ed Harris among others. Nary a puff from anybody! Breath of fresh air! Guess that Maine smoking ban is really working!
Stars like Bogie looked really sexy smoking until it killed'em.
Yahoo! The lawmakers and anti's think they are so smart.
Now the people are finally stepping up and slapping back. I love it!
And it made the NEWS!!!!
The Maine smoking ban is NOT working! We lost a lot of businesses because of it.
And if you think living in a blue state with nazi type lawmakers is fun, you have another thought coming.
No restaurant and/or bar gets my tip money since the ban.
I bring food home where I can relax and enjoy myself.
But amoking stars like his wife,Lauren Bacall,are still around! She must be around 80.
Can you explain that?
"Postal officials say that they are committed to fighting illegal activities conducted through the mail, but complain that their hands are tied. They note that Priority Mail, which officials say is most frequently used to ship cigarettes, cannot be inspected without a search warrant or the consent of either the sender or the recipient.
"Tobacco is a legal, mailable product," Mary Anne Gibbons, the Postal Service's general counsel, wrote last month in a response to the association of attorneys general. "It would be impracticable for postal acceptance clerks to make determinations on any given mailer's compliance with state excise or tax law or Jenkins Act filings."
My great-grandmother started smoking at 60 and quit at 80 because it was bad for her health. She lived to be 95. My grandfather and great-uncle both smoked from early adolescence until their deaths in their mid-eighties.
On the other side of the family, my grandmother died at 55 from smoking-related causes (she was a chain-smoker her whole life).
In other words, life is a crap-shoot, but I can say one thing for absolute certain: Life is 100% fatal-- we're ALL going to die of something, sooner or later.
Oh, by the way, one of the saddest cases I know: a friend of mine, a really great guy, very kind and loving, died at around 20. A hang-gliding accident. Guess we need to outlaw extreme sports. After all, they kill some of the best of us, and they do it young. (yes, this is sarcasm.)
In other words, life is a crap-shoot, but I can say one thing for absolute certain: Life is 100% fatal-- we're ALL going to die of something, sooner or later.
It's not just liberal lala land -- plenty of big government FReepers support these smoking bans too.
Oh I hear you!
We have more RINO'S in our party today then ever before.
Just like Gov Pataki of New York. He really stuck it to the private business owner's with this ban.
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