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NASCAR Driver Says Female Phenom Has Unfair Edge(Danica Patrick)
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Posted on 05/28/2005 8:03:38 PM PDT by freepatriot32

Robby Gordon accused Danica Patrick of having an unfair advantage in the Indianapolis 500 and said Saturday he will not compete in the race again unless the field is equalized.

Gordon, a former open-wheel driver now in NASCAR, contends that Patrick is at an advantage over the rest of the competitors because she only weighs 100 pounds. Because all the cars weigh the same, Patrick's is lighter on the race track.

"The lighter the car, the faster it goes," Gordon said. "Do the math. Put her in the car at her weight, then put me or Tony Stewart in the car at 200 pounds and our car is at least 100 pounds heavier.

"I won't race against her until the IRL does something to take that advantage away."

The Indy Racing League does not consider the weight of the driver in its race specifications. The car has to weigh at least 1,525 pounds before the fuel and driver are added, and teams in Indy have estimated that Patrick will gain close to 1 mph in speed because of her small stature.

Although her rivals in Sunday's race have said she doesn't have a huge advantage, pole-sitter Tony Kanaan told reporters he would like the Indy Racing League to look into the issue.

"Right off the bat, a guy my size is spotting her 105 pounds," Gordon said. "That's the reason she's so much faster."

Patrick has been among the quickest drivers since rookie orientation began on the famed 2 1/2-mile oval on May 5. Only a bobble on the first lap of her qualifying effort kept her from winning the pole, and she will take the green flag from fourth on Sunday, the best starting position for a woman at Indy.

Patrick was fastest with a lap of 225.997 mph to lead the one-hour "Carb Day" practice on Friday, the only time the cars got on the track during the week between the end of time trials and the start of the race.

She follows Janet Guthrie, Lyn St. James and Sarah Fisher to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, needing only to finish eighth or better to improve on the best previous finish by a female - ninth by Guthrie in 1978.

Patrick, however, is not focused on simply finishing in the top 10 or just staying out of trouble.

"I think I have a great chance of winning this race," the confident Patrick said.

Driving the 650-horsepower IndyCars for the first time this year, Patrick has improved in each of the first four IRL races, culminating in an impressive fourth place last month in Japan.

At Indy, she has been nothing less than a phenomenon.

Patrick would not be the first rookie to win here, although certainly among the least experienced.

Juan Montoya was the defending champion of the rival CART series when he won here in 2000, and Helio Castroneves was a two-year regular in CART and winner of three races before he took the checkered flag as an Indy rookie in 2001.

Still, Castroneves, who also won the next year, said he has no doubt Patrick could win on Sunday, particularly since she is driving a Honda-powered Panoz for the powerful Rahal Letterman Racing team that won here last year with Buddy Rice.

"She is driving for a great team and she has been fast every day since she got here," Castroneves said. "If she can keep her nose clean, she'll be OK. The only thing that might be a problem is you have to have patience and, sometimes, rookies don't have much patience."

Castroneves, starting fifth, and Marlboro Team Penske teammate Sam Hornish Jr., a two-time IRL champion and starting in the middle of the first row, also will be among the favorites Sunday as they try to give Roger Penske a record 14th Indy win.

Others to watch include all four members of Andretti Green Racing, including Kanaan, current IRL points leader Dan Wheldon, Dario Franchitti and Bryan Herta.

If one of them can manage to get to Victory Lane, it would be a very big day indeed for team co-owner Michael Andretti, who led more laps than any other nonwinner at Indy. His father, Mario, won the race in 1969, then spent 25 frustrating years trying and failing to win it again.

The two had so many things go wrong here that the term "Andretti Luck" became part of the Indy lexicon. "We've done everything in our power to put ourselves in a good position," Michael said. "Of course, this feeling doesn't mean anything. I've been here before in this position. We'll see what fate has in store."

And don't forget perhaps the most heartwarming story of the month: Kenny Brack. The 1999 Indy winner, nearly killed in a devastating crash at Texas Motor Speedway in October 2003, was called upon just last week to replace Rice, injured in a crash here on May 10.

Brack responded by posting the fastest qualifying speed of the month, 227.598 mph. Since it came on the second week of time trials, though, he will start 23rd. Nobody has won from that far back since Johnny Rutherford started 25th in 1974 and charged to the second of his three victories.

Still, Brack is confident he can be competitive in basically the same Honda-powered Panoz in which Rice won last year.

"Maybe I'll be a little rusty in traffic, but it's a long race," said Brack, who hasn't raced an IndyCar since his crash. "I think we'll be just fine after the first pit stop."

The third Rahal Letterman entry, Vitor Meira, making his fourth Indy start - from seventh - could be the dark horse in the race.

"Vitor also has great equipment and he's been flying all month," Kanaan said. "I think maybe he's a little under the radar."

Hornish has been perhaps the IRL's biggest star since winning his first series title in 2001, but he has struggled mightily at Indy. In five starts here, he has yet to finish better than 14th or even complete all 200 laps.

"The big thing is to make it to the end, which I have not done yet," Hornish said. "But we have a great team and two great cars and we've got as good a shot as anybody.

"If I do win here, it would be my 14th (career) win and it would be Roger's 14th at Indy," he added. "I think that would be very nice."

The big question going into Sunday, though, remains: What will Danica do?

Castroneves was asked if it bothers him that most of the questions he and other veterans have fielded this month have been about Patrick.

"It's good for the series, it's good for the sport," he replied. "When I came here they gave me the nickname 'Spider Man.' Maybe they should call her 'Wonder Woman."


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KEYWORDS: 20somethinglist; danica; driver; edge; female; has; indy500; nascar; patrick; phenom; says; unfair
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To: clintonh8r
"Thanks for proving my initial point...."

Oh no, thank you for proving mine.

41 posted on 05/28/2005 8:31:33 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: SevenofNine
SHUT THE F*** up Robby

For a second there I thought I had stumbled on the wrong forum..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1070896/posts

42 posted on 05/28/2005 8:31:36 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: EdHallick

You don't know much about racing, do you?


43 posted on 05/28/2005 8:32:05 PM PDT by clintonh8r (So....Is means testing now a conservative value? Apparently 40% of FReepers think it is.)
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To: hispanichoosier
Partly true...she's also hot!

Yep

44 posted on 05/28/2005 8:32:31 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (If you want to change government support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

I agree with hoping she wins.

Lose weight, sissy boy. (This from a fat grandma. I'm not, however, expecting others to level my playing field for me!)


45 posted on 05/28/2005 8:32:45 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: clintonh8r
BUMP.
46 posted on 05/28/2005 8:33:11 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Southack

I didn't know you had one...


47 posted on 05/28/2005 8:33:13 PM PDT by clintonh8r (So....Is means testing now a conservative value? Apparently 40% of FReepers think it is.)
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To: freepatriot32

Why is he complaining? She`s a woman driver. She will start the race by going in reverse, then hit the gas instead of the brake, then hit the cars as they lap her, then blame it on the other cars for getting her way, then complain that this is making her late for shopping.


48 posted on 05/28/2005 8:34:24 PM PDT by EdHallick
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To: clintonh8r
"I didn't know you had one..."

You should try reading, then. It's more than just a useful skill, after all.

But to recap, my point was that there were too many whiners complaining about the little girl's unfair advantage...begging for Affirmative Action for poor White Male Drivers in order to "level" the playing field for them.

49 posted on 05/28/2005 8:35:10 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel
She's already ticked me off, from all the publicity.
Letterman owns [part of?] the car. He went on and on and on about her earlier in the week. I had to change stations.
I came back five minutes later, and he still was talking about her.

And yes, Robby Gordon is just whining.

If Patick's car meets the specs, tough cookies to Gordon.

If Patrick wins without wiping out half the field, great.

50 posted on 05/28/2005 8:37:17 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: freepatriot32
He`s complaining about a woman driver in a race? Shouldn`t he be happy?

"They told me it was a ferry boat!"

51 posted on 05/28/2005 8:37:54 PM PDT by EdHallick
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To: Arkie2
This lady will wilt under the conditions and that will be that.

I doubt it. Rahal and Letterman wouldn't have spent the time and money on giving her a ride if they didn't think she had a chance to finish strong. I don't think Donica will win because rookies don't win that often. However, she has handled the press magnificently and is starting 4th tomorrow. Overall, she's done a great job for Rahal/Letterman, and her story has created a lot of buzz around the 500 that has been absent for years.
52 posted on 05/28/2005 8:38:01 PM PDT by hispanichoosier
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To: auboy
In her interview on Letterman she said that she did advise other drivers that (because of the design aerodynamics) it's easier if you drive around the track faster.








(and, shut up Robby)
53 posted on 05/28/2005 8:38:22 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: Obadiah
Most racing sports do not adjust for the driver's weight. For example, Robbie Gordon would never be considered for Formula One for two reasons. #1 He's not good enough. #2 He is about 50 pounds too heavy. If he doesn't like it he can diet.

What is NASCAR to do? What if a 300 lb. guy wants to drive, do all other cars have to carry an extra 100+ lbs. of ballast?
54 posted on 05/28/2005 8:39:22 PM PDT by jps098
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To: freepatriot32

A fine whine from Robby Gordon.


55 posted on 05/28/2005 8:39:30 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Southack
100 pounds is a very significant weight differential in a race car (to deny that is simply to deny the laws of physics), and virtually every major racing series except IRL calculates minimum car weight with the driver aboard, just for that reason. That is Gordon's complaint, albeit poorly reported by someone who probably doesn't even understand it.

Don't take my word for it...see post #20. He's done the math.

56 posted on 05/28/2005 8:39:57 PM PDT by clintonh8r (So....Is means testing now a conservative value? Apparently 40% of FReepers think it is.)
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To: Constitution Day

I'm not blinded by her beauty or her gender. You'll see in any other post of mine that I love the differences and I get sick of people trying to unisex the world. In this case, however, there are no physical limitations on women; and women don't hinder the sport because of their gender. This, for once, is fair.

Women can be 100 - 300-pounders. Men can be 100 - 300-pounders. If this were a small man--a jockey-sized man--would he have the right to complain? I'm bettin' it would never come up!

Further, she is a beautiful young woman. Handsome and pretty have always drawn attention. We grandma's don't whine because people don't whistle at grandmas.

This is all a case of one whining loser pointing the finger anywhere he can find to NOT have to accept personal responsibility.


57 posted on 05/28/2005 8:39:59 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Calvin Locke
She's already ticked me off, from all the publicity.

Maybe the publicity has ticked you off, but it has been a blessing to the race. The 500 has fallen on hard times lately, and the buzz she's created has definitely helped out.
58 posted on 05/28/2005 8:41:17 PM PDT by hispanichoosier
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To: jps098; clintonh8r
"What is NASCAR to do? What if a 300 lb. guy wants to drive, do all other cars have to carry an extra 100+ lbs. of ballast?"

BWAA HA HA! Sure, sure...And instead of being sponsored by Marlboro, they could get San Francisco rainbow crybaby sponsorships for all the whining that they did to make it "fair" for the 300 pounder!

59 posted on 05/28/2005 8:42:10 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: clintonh8r
All Gordon is saying is that IRL's rules should conform to virtually every other major racing series when it comes to calculating the minimum car weight.

F1 is dominated by little guys. The total weight will need to be at least 200 lbs greater then the max usefull weight of the car (whatever that might be). Otherwise lighter drivers might still carry an advantage from being able to build a little more car (or perhaps fine adjust the car balance with weights). Without that the big old stock car drivers are doomed. In america much of the fan base are bascially NASCAR fans.

What's the saying in F1? 'In the old days when drivers where fat and tires were skinny.'

60 posted on 05/28/2005 8:42:50 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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