Posted on 05/27/2005 8:31:06 AM PDT by JoeV1
I wonder if the rules on this forum are applied equally? Several weeks ago I was denied posting privileges because I jokingly advocated a "plan b" in fighting the so far failed war on illegal immigration. My "plan b" was to have border guards retreat to within 200 yards of the border and while fitted with night vision goggles simply drop any illegals attempting to gain access to America.
Now frankly I am not concerned with the fact I was denied posting privileges for a day(reason given was "advocating violence")but I wonder if the folks who post pictures of exploding nukes over text that calls for turning the middle east, or N Korea into a glowing heap of slag. were also denied the ability to post. I did a cursory check and found the names of the posters associated with the nuke threats posting regularly after the aforementioned posts appeared.
Is it possible that some are more equal then others here? I have been referred to as a "newbie" as if that somehow makes what I say less credible then someone here a longer period of time. I believe opinions are opinions and the length of forum membership does not serve to make ones credibility stronger.
It does seem that there is a "good old boy's" network operating here and the old timers are given more leeway as far as the rules then are the newer arrivals. While I have been a FR member for only 8 months I have been an avid political forum debator for 8 or 9 years on places such as the NYT, WP, LAT and others.
There was another incident in which I was accused of a personal attack although I was merely responding to an attack on myself. I never used profanity and merely responded in kind to another whose main complaint was that I was wrong in criticizing the post of another person because that person was a 5 year member. I was also told I didn't know what I was talking about. This resulted in a few back and forth retorts which I frankly found amusing and in no way took as an insult.
I thoroughly enjoy verbal jousting and never shrink from a confrontation. It appears that others see fit to run to the moderator at the first sign of getting back what it is they dish out. It is at that time that I believe the good old boys network comes into play.
If any of you would like to see the posts that caused this simply ask and I will happily post them.
TLBSHOW banned from LP? Wow, it must be quiet over there now.
You know, you are correct. Although all of the private correspondence received by me on this subject has been reasoned if not always agreeable, the majority of what is posted in public has been ill mannered and defensive. It is as if many on this former actually define their lives by what goes on on this very PUBLIC forum.
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MR MODERATOR, PLEASE REMOVE THIS THREAD AND ALLOW THE ILL MANNERED ONES AMONG US TO GO BACK TO THEIR SAND BOX. THANKS
How true. The light really comes on when you get your decoder ring. I have a 1st Edition also! It has extra, added and top secret features too. The only way to really 'know' the 'good ol' boys' network is to know who has a 1st Edition.
Nam Vet
Dude, don't make it any worse for yourself..
Someone has probably pointed out the difference--in case it slipped by, I'll explain:
Most of us do not walk around carrying nuclear weaponry. The pictures you refer to really do not advocate anything more than fanciful, cartoon violence.
My "plan b" was to have border guards retreat to within 200 yards of the border and while fitted with night vision goggles simply drop any illegals attempting to gain access to America.
Many FReepers and lurkers are also gun owners. What you are advocating is real violence.
I'm not making a judgement call here, just trying to point out the difference between the two for you.
Hmm... Vernacular seems to set you off. I will avoid it for a few moments.
You have a certain issue with accepting criticism, even that which is truly instructive. This is not analysis, it is my personal observation.
You also have problems recognizing sarcasm, or feign such an inability. This is part analysis, but still mostly raw observation.
You also seem to thrive on anger and chaos. This is almost 100% observation.
In short, you have issues. Then again, who doesn't? The bottom line, however, your issues seem counterproductive to useful discussion here on FR. It seems to me, purely MHO, that you are spoiling for a fight. I thought it fun to oblidge you.
If I am wrong, however, you would be wise to reevaluate whether or not "fairness" has anything to do with the sometimes disorderly progression of reality. Or of the existence of republics real or virtual.
No, I'm not a mod. Don't even play one on TV. Could we dispense with the bull, sir? Despite my picking at you, I sense that you may have some intelligent and cogent commentary on this site, if you can determine the difference between "fair" and "honest".
Good Day to you. And I mean that.
For that to be a meaningful analogy, JoeV1 would have to either be a Border Patrol official or someone in charge of setting policy for them.
Sounds to me like you're asking for another one. After your mommy lets you out of the time-out corner, you don't want to immediately go up to her and kick her in the shins. Some kids learn that. :-)
Or what? Will I forfeit milk and cookies?
The moderators can still be anonymous. It's the accusers or abuse button pushers that should have their screen names shown.
There are conflicts here. On this issue there is a big disconnect.
All that kitty cat crap is just kids having fun.
Be careful.
Some really good FReepers have been deep sixed over this one.
There is no rationale to this one.
No. I'm better than you.
FReepers with integrity publicly hit the abuse button.
FReepers with integrity also very very very rarely hit it anyhow.
There is simply not that much stuff that lands here aside from FReeperFights.
I bet in 5 years I have seen maybe a dozen Nazi type posts and have gotten a few spam FReepmails in that tone.
Lots of DU drive-bys.
Most of that Nazi-Klan crap is invented to smear.
LP = www.libertypost.org
So ranting "nuke 'em all" is a statement of sentiment, but, for most everyone, remains somewhere between an empty threat to a mere expression of anger. Not a realistic outcome, just hyperbole, and far less do-able than most of the garbage the DU crowd says should be done to Republicans and conservatively minded folk.
Taking a rifle to the border, by contrast, and shooting at illegals is possible for most anyone who is so inclined, and we wouldn't want to be the ones to be blamed for inciting such an act.
Maybe it is just fun for you. A lot of us on the forum are genuine activists. This forum is a great place to network with other conservatives, share ideas, and cement action plans. Did you log in at all throughout the last election??? Then you know what I mean.
What we don't do is make plans along the lines of what you have advocated.
Agreed. A poster can really be rolling on a good point til they feel they have to drop that word in to make a point. I always want to doublecheck that I haven't stumbled over to DU. And hey, I'm no prude, but there is a time and place.
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