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CA: Immigration event turns hostile (Minuteman)
The Orange County Register ^ | May 25, 2005 | Martin Wisckol

Posted on 05/26/2005 3:01:03 AM PDT by calcowgirl

GARDEN GROVE — An event honoring an anti-illegal immigrant leader tonight was marred by altercations between anti-immigration activists and protesters, resulting in an arrest when two demonstrators were hit by a slow-moving van.

The driver was Hal Netkin of Van Nuys, said Barbara Coe, chairwoman of the California Coalition for Immigration Reform.

Protesters were blocking a driveway when Netkin tried to drive through and knocked two demonstrators to the ground, Deputy Police Chief K.J. Raney said.

Netkin was arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon. At least one of the protesters was hospitalized.

"Knowing (Netkin), he panicked," Coe said.

Billy Hall, a member of Coe’s group, said shortly afterward that his car window was broken by a protester. Hall said he filed a police report.

The event sponsored by Coe’s group honored Aliso Viejo resident Jim Gilchrist. Gilchrist’s Minuteman Project last month attracted nearly 900 people to patrol a stretch of Arizona border in an effort to stop entry by illegal immigrants. The effort was praised by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger but condemned by President George W. Bush, who called the volunteers "vigilantes."

"I’m damned proud to be a vigilante," Gilchrist told the 150 people assembled at the Garden Grove Women’s Club. "How about you?"

He received a rousing ovation. He also said that deporting the millions of people in the country illegally would lower home prices, reduce traffic congestion and lower taxes.

Nearly 100 protesters picketed and chanted on the sidewalk. One sign read, "Beat Back the Racist Attack."

"Their racist acts are being masked by patriotism," said Obed Sanchez of Garden Grove. "To say illegal immigrants are coming over here and ruining our lives is ridiculous. We need immigrants like a tree needs water. Even President Bush recognizes that."

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; gardengrove; illegals; immigrantlist; jimgilchrist; minuteman; minutemanproject; mmp
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To: monkeywrench
"How long before the State Dept. issues a warning to people about traveling to Calif.? ":)

I think they give weather reports right now to illegals so they know better when it is safer to cross and take American jobs.

81 posted on 05/26/2005 1:23:18 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

I don't know who this Martin is, but the OC Register as a real newspaper that is often not biased and just reports the news.
This is disappointing.


82 posted on 05/26/2005 1:24:31 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: moehoward
The number three years ago was widely reported at some 18 to 22 million, with a million more every year.

Wrong. For years they said 2 - 3 million, tops. The government kept downplaying it for a variety of reasons, none good.

It's probably more like 15 million. Headed for 50 million.

Figure it this way: Mexico's social and political institutions can't support any more than about 35 - 40 million in any kind of reasonable comfort. Those people will live in a country essentially trapped, technologically, in about 1940. Their country is always between 50 and 100 years behind, depending on the social sector you look at.

But the problem is that they have over 100 million. 120 million if you count the overflow here. So about half their population is marginalized - so what can they do?

1. Social change for the better -- never happen, at least not peacefully. Mexican upper class will not stand for it.

2. They leave, come to the U.S. -- Two problems solved for Mexican upper class: revolutionary threat and lack of influence over U.S. politics. They get the latter because the emigre's still have emotional attachment to overtures from SOB's they left behind.

That's the reality. Over 10 million, tens of millions yet to come....unless they get stopped.

And if they don't get stopped, your kids ain't gonna live in the U. S. of A.

83 posted on 05/26/2005 1:29:17 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Wormwood

And the roots are beginning to rot. Too much water will kill any plant!


84 posted on 05/26/2005 1:29:52 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: G.Mason
"... To say illegal immigrants are coming over here and ruining our lives is ridiculous. We need immigrants like a tree needs water."

There are 193 countries in the world. Only one tolerates illegal immigration. How is it that the other 192 get by?

85 posted on 05/26/2005 1:29:53 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: calcowgirl
resulting in an arrest when two demonstrators were hit by a slow-moving van.

If some dirty protester ever sat down in front of my car, it would be the last car they ever saw. --- George Wallace (quoting from memory, may not be exact)

86 posted on 05/26/2005 1:30:40 PM PDT by Clemenza (Vader 2008: In your heart, you know he's right)
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To: FreedomCalls

They aren't the hated United States of America?


87 posted on 05/26/2005 1:34:45 PM PDT by G.Mason ( It's people like you, that make people like me, people like you!)
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To: FreedomCalls
Only one tolerates illegal immigration

Costa Rica is now 20% Nicaraguan thanks to tolerance of illegal immigration. Thailand has a huge population of illegal Burmese, Japan has a sizeable illegal Korean and Philipino population, and certain countries in Europe similarly have problems. A major issue in the US is that we are a wealthy country bordered by a very poor country, so the sheer number of illegals is much larger.

88 posted on 05/26/2005 1:35:04 PM PDT by Clemenza (Vader 2008: In your heart, you know he's right)
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To: Regulator

Seems like I remember the high numbers in old CIS/FAIR reports. Don't have time to dig them up and I could be wrong. But I have NEVER heard anything as low (and laughable) as "2 - 3 million, tops".


89 posted on 05/26/2005 2:43:32 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: moehoward

Well, CIS or FAIR would have been telling the truth. I was referring to press releases from our various Ministries of Propaganda in Washingtoon and other dens of iniquity.


90 posted on 05/26/2005 2:45:49 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: DumpsterDiver

BTTT to find later.


91 posted on 05/26/2005 3:09:40 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Yo! Cowboy! I'm praying for a LoganMiracle! It CAN happen!!!!)
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To: Spiff
I spoke to the organizer of the "Unite to Fight" event in Las Vegas this coming Saturday and Sunday and she said that they've had to bring in a lot of extra security because of the threats of violence and the recent behavior of the enemy invaders.

Judging from this reporting, I can imagine how biased the reporting will be this weekend.

92 posted on 05/26/2005 4:49:15 PM PDT by Petruchio (... .--. .- -.-- / .- -. -.. / -. . ..- - . .-. / .. .-.. .-.. . --. .- .-.. / .- .-.. .. . -. ...)
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To: TomasUSMC

You should have freepmail from me


94 posted on 05/26/2005 5:45:11 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't hold it against me because I shot the SOB. I'm tired of dealing with stupid people!)
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To: dennisw
Hal is an old retired fellow. He could get a heart attack from such violent harassment by the Mexican protesters.

Exactly, he had to be over 70 years old. The two people on the ground were not injured, and just laid there crying racism. They did not even want to be interupted by the paramedics while they were talking to the cameras. It was disgusting attempt to make the old guy a racist. The protesters were throwing cans and bottles at police, and broke several windows.

It was clear who the bad guys were here.

95 posted on 05/26/2005 5:58:11 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: A CA Guy
Meanwhile 6 illegal alien activists were arrested and are being charged for throwing soda cans filled with ball bearings at officers.

Same thing we heard.

96 posted on 05/26/2005 6:00:23 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: A CA Guy
throwing soda cans filled with ball bearings at officers.

Actually it was marbles. I don't think the pain would be much different if struck by one though.

97 posted on 05/26/2005 6:04:35 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Black Tooth

Marbles would be lighter, so that would be better, though could still kill.


98 posted on 05/26/2005 6:08:06 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Happy2BMe

BUMP!


99 posted on 05/26/2005 7:13:37 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Happy2BMe; Spiff; Travis McGee; DoughtyOne; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; ..


bump


100 posted on 05/26/2005 9:52:17 PM PDT by devolve
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