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Third arrest might seal future for Lionel Tate
Sun Sentinel ^ | May 25 2005 | Andrew Ryan and Paula McMahon

Posted on 05/25/2005 3:24:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob

Pembroke Park · Lionel Tate, who at 12 faced life in prison for murdering a playmate, may have squandered his freedom for four 14-inch pizzas.

The bill for the pies -- pepperoni and sausage, extra cheese, pineapple, and ham -- came to $33.60, according to a Domino's Pizza receipt.

Police say Tate placed the order from his 12-year-old friend's apartment Monday afternoon and forced his way back inside just before the pizza arrived, roughing up the boy before robbing the deliveryman with a .38-caliber revolver.

(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crime; criminal; insane; lionel; psychokiller; tate
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To: eastforker
Nor does it mention his troubles with the law before the murder.

Was the murder his second arrest? What was the other crime?

41 posted on 05/25/2005 5:16:06 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: Caipirabob

They had it right the first time,call up Rev. Masters ask him whaat he thinks now.


42 posted on 05/25/2005 5:17:12 AM PDT by Unicorn
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To: Tijeras_Slim
If he used a gun in Florida, there are mandatory penalties...up to life if a person is harmed. so.....

If he used a gun

He won't have fun.

43 posted on 05/25/2005 5:20:44 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Rocketwolf68

Justice system? Seems more like a 'catch and release' program. I bet the LEOs down there are a frustrated bunch.


44 posted on 05/25/2005 5:24:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Lazamataz

If he reeks of mozzerella, you know you got the fella...


45 posted on 05/25/2005 5:25:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Caipirabob

Maybe he'll get life....again


46 posted on 05/25/2005 5:25:35 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Caipirabob

"I pray that the court system has the sense to remove this monster from society before he kills again..........."

1 posted on 05/25/2005 3:24:28 AM PDT by Caipirabob

I would not count on it.

If anything, he may get a longer suspended sentence.

We have a judge problem, not a crime problem.

If the laws that are already on the books had been enforced the girl from Sarsota, Jessica Lunsford, and the Lundy girl would all be alive today in all probability.

It does not matter how many laws they enact, if they are not enforced, they do no good.


47 posted on 05/25/2005 5:25:53 AM PDT by sport
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To: Dianna

I posted it here at the time of the murder, yes he had an arrest record at 12, if I am not mistaken it was for assault.


48 posted on 05/25/2005 5:27:53 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Caipirabob

Anyone surprised that someone who would brutally beat a sweet 6 year old child to death would turn out to be a thug?

***

Not me. He found out early on that there are no severe consequences for his actions (the killing of the small child)...so it gave him license to do whatever he wanted and, he thought, get away with it.


49 posted on 05/25/2005 5:29:46 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Caipirabob

Too bad they can't put this guy, "on top of old Sparky."


50 posted on 05/25/2005 5:31:07 AM PDT by dfwgator (Flush Newsweek!)
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To: ahayes

He wasn't trying to rob the delivery guy for the pizzas.

He wanted his money. Delivery guys usually carry a decent bit of cash on them.

This happened a lot where I used to live. Thugs would order pizza or Chinese food, to get the delivery boy in place, and then someone would rob him on the street. Sometimes they kill them too.

I've never before heard of someone stupid enough to try and rob one of these guys AT the point of delivery. The restaurant has a record of the address. It's like telling the police "I live here, come get me".


51 posted on 05/25/2005 5:33:06 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
I've never before heard of someone stupid enough to try and rob one of these guys AT the point of delivery. The restaurant has a record of the address. It's like telling the police "I live here, come get me".

But Lionel Tate can afford to do so, at least in his own mind. He lives in a protected zone. He is one of the select class of "celebrity defendants". Everybody pays attention to him, says nice things about him, and gives him gifts because of his crimes.

If he can get off with a couple of years for cold blooded murder of a six-year-old, how serious can the trouble be for sticking up the delivery guy?

Add to this the fact that his mother is a LEO, and they look after their own, and you can see how Lionel Tate could make the mistake of thinking that nothing bad could happen to him because of his thuggery.

Time to prove the little POS wrong...

A crumb of crust, and jail time's a must!

52 posted on 05/25/2005 5:45:13 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Caipirabob

Sweet young Lionel has really rung up quite a bill on this one if the courts do their job. Not only can his probation be revoked but he can be prosecuted for armed robbery and assault with a deadly weapon plus Federal and, possibly, state, firearms charges. He's not just a convicted felon in possession of a handgun, but a convicted juvenile felon in possession of a handgun actually using it to commit a crime of violence. If the sentences are stacked up consecutively, as they ought to be, he can be sent away for the rest of his life.

Also, before anybody gets compassionate about him, let's remember that serial killers often start out by practicing their "hobby" on innocent animals. At age 12 sweet young Lionel showed his precocity by leaping over the animal abuse stage and starting out with a real, live little girl, whom he brutally murdered. Now he does this, in spite of being on probation for the earlier murder. If he isn't sent away for the rest of his life, he'll be a one man crime wave and murder many other innocent people.


53 posted on 05/25/2005 5:56:49 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: JarheadFromFlorida
He is just another misunderstood brotha that is a victim of a white racist system...

Little Lionel clearly is 'acting out' in symbolic reparation for the oppressed plight of all minority members throughout the world throughout history at the hands of the white, christian, racist war pig.

Can't we all agree that Little Lionel is the REAL victim here?

54 posted on 05/25/2005 6:05:35 AM PDT by martin gibson
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To: gridlock

LOL!


55 posted on 05/25/2005 11:07:17 AM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: grizzly84
Gettin' a little close to the line, ain'tcha?

Remember what happened to Cosell when he started flinging anthropologic descriptives... ;-)

56 posted on 05/25/2005 11:13:29 AM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: Caipirabob

http://www.rickross.com/reference/nationofislam/nationofislam42.html I saw what appeared to be an islam entourage surrounding Tate as he went to court. I had the sound down, and caught only the end. I googled 'lionel Tate, islam' and got this. It's dated, but I saw the same thing yesterday.


57 posted on 05/25/2005 11:22:01 AM PDT by monkeywrench (http://ciudadano.presidencia.gob.mx/peticion/peticion.htm -Tell Vicente)
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To: dfwgator

My Google search yielded this (now amusing) press release from Amnesty International celebrating his release on January 6 (they even used an exclamation point!).

http://www.amnesty.org.uk/gcc/2003/update/lioneltate/


58 posted on 05/25/2005 12:00:38 PM PDT by SteveBosell
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