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Congressional Black Caucus Condemns Filibuster Deal, Calls for Defeat of Justice Brown
CBC ^ | May 24, 2005 | Congressional Black Caucus

Posted on 05/24/2005 2:55:11 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers

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To: Dems_R_Losers
The Congressional Black Caucus strongly opposes...

Blah, blah, blah...

41 posted on 05/24/2005 4:10:38 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Dog Gone; kabar

This is the very essence of a "face saving" deal. They keep the filibuster in name only. They get to tell their ilk that they stood up to the Republicans, blah blah blah.

End of the day, the judges that they had been calling Nazi Stormtroopers just a week ago will soon be taking their seats.



42 posted on 05/24/2005 4:13:15 PM PDT by ambrose (NEWSWEAK LIED .... AND PEOPLE DIED)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Janice Rogers Brown and William Pryor, have documented histories of opposing the rights

Just the opposite. They have documented histories of treating all people equally under the law. That's what annoys the professional victim groups that the Democratic Party caters to.

43 posted on 05/24/2005 4:15:36 PM PDT by JCEccles (Andrea Dworkin--the Ward Churchill of gender politics.)
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To: Dog Gone
We'll just have to see if the Democrats will raise the "extreme circumstances" argument. They might not.

Wanna bet?

44 posted on 05/24/2005 4:17:34 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Dems_R_Losers

    The Black Caucus does not represent the best interests of blacks or any Americans. Here is a picture of Jesse Jackson marching with N.O.W. (National Organization of Women, a liberal feminist group) members against Welfare Reform, along with the results of the reforms they opposed. State Reform took effect around 1992-1994 and the National Bill was passed in 1996. The Republicans swept the house in 1994 promising a ‘Contract with America’. People are the same the world over. It is the political structure and governmental interference that make all the difference. Get Government out of people’s lives and they will succeed. To believe people cannot succeed without government ‘help’ is to subscribe to what President Bush calls, ‘the soft bigotry of low expectations’. The reason they aren’t succeeding is BECAUSE of the government help, which only serves to subsidize poverty and single motherhood! For some reason, saying these things and passing bills that help millions of people out of poverty is said by the left to be ‘cruel’, ‘hardnosed’ and ‘racist’.


45 posted on 05/24/2005 4:25:42 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

They will back Jesse Jackson, yet oppose Janice Rogers (who should be on the SCOTUS)!!!!


Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible.
- CA Justice Janice Rogers Brown

We no longer find slavery abhorrent. We embrace it. We demand more. Big government is not just the opiate of the masses. It is the opiate. The drug of choice for multinational corporations and single moms; for regulated industries and rugged Midwestern farmers and militant senior citizens.
- CA Justice Janice Rogers Brown

The quixotic desire to do good, be universally fair and make everybody happy is understandable. Indeed, the majority's zeal is more than a little endearing. There is only one problem with this approach. We are a court.
- CA Justice Janice Rogers Brown

Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.
- CA Justice Janice Rogers Brown

The public school system is already so beleaguered by bureaucracy; so cowed by the demands of due process; so overwhelmed with faddish curricula that its educational purpose is almost an afterthought.
- CA Justice Janice Rogers Brown


46 posted on 05/24/2005 4:26:48 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm)
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To: jwalsh07

Well, they'll raise the argument. Whether they raise it to the point of actually challenging the GOP with another filibuster is the real issue.


47 posted on 05/24/2005 4:28:32 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Let me be a bit clearer. The democrats will fillibuster not just one more judge in this Congess but many more.


48 posted on 05/24/2005 4:34:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: mhking

ping


49 posted on 05/24/2005 4:35:13 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm)
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To: Dog Gone
Fosk (Fox) this evening reported on an article by someone else who'd analyzed the problem, and every time the so-called "nuclear option" has been threatened, the minority backed down.

The long term demographics are that the Liberals are going to go through a substantial decline in their numbers. The only thing they've got left is the filibuster, and when they use it, it'd better be good, else they will lose it for a less than adequate reason.

Appellate court judges are not worth losing it.

50 posted on 05/24/2005 4:35:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jwalsh07
I hope they try. Frist seems very confident, something he wasn't last term.

It will be nice to see who really controls Congress.

51 posted on 05/24/2005 4:37:36 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Soul Seeker
And I thought the Moderates were going to save the day! usher in a new era of peace and love. Well surprise surprise! All they did was make things WORSE!!!!

Yep .. they cause a melted down on all sides

52 posted on 05/24/2005 4:40:48 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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FYI..print out, or post the list of the House Dem caucus, listed by seniority...Then check off those who are members of the Black Caucus...It is a scary document...and remember....the Dems in the House still adhere to seniority as the sole criteria for chairs..


53 posted on 05/24/2005 4:44:06 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: traviskicks

* The public school system is already so beleaguered by bureaucracy; so cowed by the demands of due process; so overwhelmed with faddish curricula that its educational purpose is almost an afterthought.
- CA Justice Janice Rogers Brown *


No wonder the Left is against Justice Brown. She understands why the public schools are a hedious failure. The DNC walks lock-step with the bureaucracy that runs the Public School System. Good for Justice Brown. She speaks the truth and most thinking teachers would agree with her.


54 posted on 05/24/2005 4:47:25 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Dems_R_Losers

What? The Congressional Black Caucus doesn't think Janice Rogers Brown is BLACK enough? If she doesn't kowtow to the poverty pimps and race baiters, I guess she isn't, in their eyes.


55 posted on 05/24/2005 4:48:02 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Dog Gone

Well, you'll get you hope. This should have been settled this week. The judicial fillibuster should have been buried. Then there would have been votes on every Bush nominee, not just the ones McCain and friends approve of. Now that it lives, guess where it will rear it's ugly head?


56 posted on 05/24/2005 4:53:38 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ken5050

Don't forget that Harald Ford was suppose to get Nancy Pelosi's job and the Dems screwed him over


57 posted on 05/24/2005 4:55:01 PM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: Dog Gone
The RATS backed off the filibuster. They reserved the right to institute it again, but that may just be blustering.,/i>

They backed off a filibuster for one nominee so far and promised for another two. They have reserved the right to use the filibuster in "extraordinary" circumstances. The rules of the Senate have not changed. It still takes 60 votes for cloture.

We need to see if they try to impose it again on other nominees that reach the floor. It exists in theory, but if they're going to vote 81-15 for cloture, it doesn't exist as a meaningful threat.

You can bet they will, paticularly for SC nominees. I wouldn't take the cloture vote for Owens too seriously. It is part of their bait and switch tactics. The up or down vote will be closer.

58 posted on 05/24/2005 5:05:54 PM PDT by kabar
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To: jwalsh07
I didn't like the agreement. I'm not convinced that it gave the Democrats anything useful.

If and when they use it to block other nominees, I'm more than willing to change my opinion. I'm guardedly optimistic that what looks like a GOP sell out it really a RAT face saving measure.

59 posted on 05/24/2005 5:07:31 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: ambrose
This is the very essence of a "face saving" deal. They keep the filibuster in name only. They get to tell their ilk that they stood up to the Republicans, blah blah blah.,/i>

It has nothing to do with face saving. They still have cloture at 60 votes and the acceptance of the principle of filibustering judicial nominees. The GOP gang of seven snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. We had the Dems defeated and they knew it. The deal saved their bacon. The GOP did not institute the constitutional option and apparently, have sacrificed a few nominees along the way. It was a Dem victory.

End of the day, the judges that they had been calling Nazi Stormtroopers just a week ago will soon be taking their seats.

Small potatoes. They were never the real issue. It is the looming Supreme Court battle, which is the real prize. The Dems still have all their weapons and can have 41 senators prevent a vote.

60 posted on 05/24/2005 5:12:22 PM PDT by kabar
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