Report from Chappaqua: The "Agreement" Hillary has lost the WH, forever, and more, much more..

one man's opinion....

[ken5050]

The compromise deal announced last night on judicial nominations will one day prove to be the opening strike in one of the greatest political battles ever waged in this country. There is much sadness in Chappaqua, for Hillary Clinton has today realized that any remote chance she ever had a becoming president has now evaporatated forever. And the Democrat party may well be in its final states of existence, its death throes, as we know it today. Follow along, as together we peel back the layers of the political onion to unearth the truth...

[Talking_Mouse]

I think you may be right, in that McCain sees this as his best presidential bid. Who are the Democrats going to run against him?

HRC - as much as she wants it she will be creamed by McCain. Hes male, hes a former POW, he doesn't scare their middle.

Barack Obama - Hes a minority and this country will not elect a minority citizen President for the next two election cycles, he has not served in the military, while he inspires the DemocraticUnderground he does not inspire the middle.

The major part of the great outpouring of Democrats last election was to defeat the evil Bush. Anybody but Bush was a rallying cry. That wont work this time around. Count on 10% - 15% of the Democrats who voted last election to stay home

Lets now look at it from the Republican side.

As so many of the posters on this and other threads have stated the Senate Majority leader has been neutered by this deal.

Dr. Rice -- she is female, see above about minority citizens, she doesn't really want it.

Rudy - here is where McCain runs into problems, Rudy is not pro-life and that will endear him to the middle of both parties, think Rudy think 9/11.

So what is McCain going to do? He pulls a Ross Perot and runs as an independent. Both of the middles flock to him. He will make points with the Republicans for going with the nuclear option for a SC nominee (and if said SC nominee is a minority so much the better for McCain). This will not be enough to get him the Republican nomination but it will dampen the fire against him by whoever the nominee is. The hard core left hates him, however the middle trusts him (he kept the senate functioning, hes an honorable man, hes independent).

By splitting the middles of both parties away from the party and gathering them to him(as an independent) he wins. There is not a Bill Clinton waiting to take advantage of this. HRC will be campaigning in the primaries for all she is worth.

[Alberta's Child]

. . . we still do not have a candidate suiting up for the 2008 race.

So what? If you go back to 1997, you'll find that the GOP didn't have a candidate "suiting up" for the 2000 race, either.

There are really only a few legitimate GOP possibilities in 2008, the foremost of whom is probably Senator George Allen of Virginia at this point.

[mombonn]

Gosh, Ken, I usually see your logic; but, this makes no sense to me.

I won't vote mclame, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES HE MEA CULPAS. I'd write in Pat Paulson before voting for McFinger.

Jeb is too smart to play with a rattlesnake from Arizona.

[William Tell]

Talking_Mouse said: "By splitting the middles of both parties away from the party and gathering them to him(as an independent) he wins. "

If you're placing wagers that a third-party candidate will win the next Presidential election, I would like to get my money down early that it doesn't happen.

[Sweet Hour of Prayer]

McCain is simply another Ross Perot. Meant to divide the Republican vote as Hillary can't win the majority. I'm tired of game playing when it comes to American leadership. Let the senators vote and go from there. Gee, wouldn't it be nice if we had a media that would voraciously seek out senators who engage in compromise and corruption in both parties.

[Doc Savage]

Exactly. Give me a fire-breather who can melt Hitlery's panties (God, just the thought makes me ill...!) and I'll vote for him. Give me a wimp who's afraid to expose her (thighs and all) and I'm sitting this one out!

[teenyelliott]

I am not naive, sir. I am realistic. Politicians suck, no matter which party they claim.

Perhaps your attitude of thinking that any politician could actually be "looking out for your best interest" is the naive position.

Politics is not about our way of life. It is about their way of life. People in Washington are as bad as people in Hollywood. None of them live in reality.

[finnman69]

Still say it will be Giuliani/Rice

[hinckley buzzard]

Did you read the piece. My point is that McCain, by taking on the Dems, can win the base back over..

I read your piece and I think the weak link is the scenario of mcCain (and the rest of the nitwit 7) rising up in righteous wrath after the 'rats scuttle the "agreement" and filibuster the next judgicial nominee.

It would be dramatic and it would certainly go far toward recapturing the base, but I don't think McCain has it in him to do it. He loves the favorable press and the stroking by the pundits way too much to risk their condemnation by acting on principle.

Remember, he is their favorite only because he has no scruples, is easily fooled, and has no party loyalty to begin with.

If this does play out, however, I think you would be right that Hillary would be history as a Presidential candidate.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

If it's Giuliani/Rice, then you've lost the social conservatives, who will probably sit this one out. Not a smart ticket.

[Liz]

My point is----Hillary is on 2008 like a pit bull----while conservatives seemingly twiddle their thumbs.

[jwh_Denver]

"I will vote for Hillary"

Uh, you got off on the wrong floor, hell is much further down.

[Little Ray]

I would not vote for McCain. And lots of Conservatives are not going to forget this "deal." McCain ain't gonna be President in 2008. I doubt he'll even be a candidate.

[lexington minuteman 1775]

I want some of whatever you have been smoking!LOL. Well, as Judy Tenuda used to say in her comedy routine:"Hey it could happen" and politics does make strange bedfellows. But McCain-Bush, don't that beat all!

[Alberta's Child]

Hillary is on 2008 like a pit bull . . .

That says more about the Democrats than it does about the GOP. When your party's last four major candidates are John Kerry, John Edwards, Al Gore and Joe Lieberman -- and your last three presidential candidates (Clinton, Gore and Kerry are all certifiable loony-tunes -- then you've got a serious problem as a major political party.

The lack of Democrat Party candidates from the ranks of their governors (which is where most Presidents come from) is an indication of just how poor their prospects are for the long term.

[dynachrome]

weak? selling out on the constitutional option shows how weak the republiCONS are

[Alberta's Child]

They didn't "sell out" on anything -- they basically just decided to take a pass on it this time. This has all just been a case of political posturing on both sides, and it has gotten a ton of media attention because in the aftermath of the Schiavo case and the death of Pope John Paul II there's really nothing else for the media to talk about these days.

[Liz]

If it's Giuliani/Rice, then you've lost the social conservatives, who will probably sit this one out. Not a smart ticket.

Now wait a sec.....Rudy might be a viable candidate......depending on which gender he runs as.

[Colorado Buckeye]

You're wrong. McCain will switch his affiliation to independent and then accept Hillary's offer of the VP slot.

[daybreakcoming]

Yeah - well, that's why I, for one, worked so hard, gave money last year. JUDGES. And look at us now. I'm burnt out. Doesn't matter who the next Pres is - enough dispicable repubs will roll over. Bet on it.