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Boston Globe: The caveat emperor (Kerry Signs Form 180)
Boston Globe ^ | 5/24/05 | Joan Vennochi

Posted on 05/24/2005 4:21:44 AM PDT by Air Conditioned Gypsy

The caveat emperor

By Joan Vennochi, Globe Columnist

May 24, 2005

During an interview yesterday with Globe editorial writers and columnists, the former Democratic presidential nominee was asked if had signed Form SF 180, authorizing the Department of Defense to grant access to all his military records.

''I have signed it," Kerry said. Then, he added that his staff was ''still going through it" and ''very, very shortly, you will have a chance to see it." ........

After the interview, Kerry's communications director, David Wade, was asked to clarify when Kerry signed SF 180 and when public access would be granted. Kerry drifted over to join the conversation, immediately raising the confusion level. He did not answer the question of when he signed the form or when the entire record will be made public.

Several e-mails later, Wade conveyed the following information: On Friday, May 20, Kerry obtained a copy of Form 180 and signed it. ''The next step is to send it to the Navy, which will happen in the next few days. The Navy will then send out the records," e-mailed Wade......

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cary; form180; kerry; lurch; militaryrecord
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To: Zacs Mom

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61 posted on 05/24/2005 6:11:26 AM PDT by halfright (9/11 3,000 Americans MURDERED...close the borders!)
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To: Timeout
Why were Kerry's citations signed by John Lehman?

I think John Lehman would like to know the answer to that question too unless he is also lying.

62 posted on 05/24/2005 6:14:27 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: halfright

Schmelson......aw geez...If you havent seen him perform you are missing a great....


63 posted on 05/24/2005 6:15:43 AM PDT by halfright (9/11 3,000 Americans MURDERED...close the borders!)
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To: Always Right

"Several e-mails later, Wade conveyed the following information: On Friday, May 20, Kerry obtained a copy of Form 180 and signed it. ''The next step is to send it to the Navy, which will happen in the next few days. The Navy will then send out the records"

It's a smoke screen! Kerry can request a copy of his own record at anytime. He obviously has it and has gone through it with a fine tooth comb by virtue of all the corrected medal certificates and DD-214s.

The SF-180 will allow the Navy to release his record straight to the media via the proper request.

Won't it be something if it comes to light that the DNC nominated a candidate that was dismissed from the Navy for bad conduct. I predict the records center will have a mysterious fire and burn to the ground before his record sees the light of day.


64 posted on 05/24/2005 6:22:00 AM PDT by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: Air Conditioned Gypsy

A squid ate his homework


65 posted on 05/24/2005 6:22:28 AM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: Air Conditioned Gypsy

John Kerry demonstrates his latest idea for defense strategy.

66 posted on 05/24/2005 6:25:39 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
''I have signed it," Kerry said. Then, he added that his staff was ''still going through it" and ''very, very shortly, you will have a chance to see it." ........

In other words, he got a copy of his own record, is editing it, and will release what he wants to. Same bullshit.

67 posted on 05/24/2005 6:26:21 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: kcvl; Timeout
Why were Kerry's citations signed by John Lehman?

I think John Lehman would like to know the answer to that question too unless he is also lying.
62 posted on 05/24/2005 9:14:27 AM EDT by kcvl

They weren't signed by Groucho Marx? That seems the more likely.

68 posted on 05/24/2005 6:27:54 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Tempestuous
The added that his staff was ''still going through it" Why? So they could black out the parts that prove Kerry is a traitor and a liar?

That's the point. Signing a 180 means the public gets the info directly from the Navy. The info doesn't go through the Kerry filter.

I suspect that Kerry is going through his records to see what damaging material is in there. He may try to negotiate with the Navy to limit the material released through the 180. I don't know if you can set limits on the material released, e.g., medical records, with a 180 authorization.

69 posted on 05/24/2005 6:30:23 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Air Conditioned Gypsy

Why would he have to go through the records if he had signed the form?


70 posted on 05/24/2005 6:32:09 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: jalisco555
I hope for Kerry's sake that there is actually something embarassing in his records.

You are much nicer than I. I hope nothing for Kerry's sake.

71 posted on 05/24/2005 6:32:17 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Tribune7

We need a copy of the signed 180.


72 posted on 05/24/2005 6:32:52 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Air Conditioned Gypsy

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73 posted on 05/24/2005 6:37:38 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: bitt; billorites; PhilDragoo; Liz; onyx; Happy2BMe; potlatch; devolve; MEG33; Grampa Dave; ...
From the article:

Several e-mails later, Wade conveyed the following information: On Friday, May 20, Kerry obtained a copy of Form 180 and signed it. ''The next step is to send it to the Navy, which will happen in the next few days. The Navy will then send out the records," e-mailed Wade......

Your post #2 is right on, billorites.

I'll believe it when I SEE it!!


74 posted on 05/24/2005 6:41:28 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Air Conditioned Gypsy

There's been plenty of time for the puppet masters' stooges to doctor/replace/alter/invent etc. whatever records or portions of the records deemed necessary for such treatment.

Will be impressed only if and when they give a full bare bones exposure of his treasonous activities in stark detail and honesty.


75 posted on 05/24/2005 6:43:50 AM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: Air Conditioned Gypsy; The Sailor; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; Blue Scourge; ...

Whoever in the US Senate that gave Hanoi Kerry
a Top Secret Clearance HAS seen all his military records.

The FBI, since 9/11, does non military clearances.

His most recent one who have been in the spring/summer of '04
when he won the dims's nomination against President Bush.

NO ONE gets a Top Secret Clearance WITHOUT agreeing to have all your records released.

OR pass a FULL FBI check when someone
runs for the highest elected
office in th ecountry.

Does the DC crowd think "We the People" are stupid?

John Kerry was dishonorably dismissed from the Navy:
(statement from lawyers there at the time)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1406760/posts

Uphold the US Constituion!

Too bad the "Move On" FReepers just don't understand
the real threat that the likes of Hanoi Kerry pose to our country.

I just don't understand their reasoning in saying
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Some even howl when I remind them the job is NOT done.

Kerry Outs Undercover Intelligence Agent in Bolton Hearing
C-SPAN 04/11/2005
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1381586/posts

"Kerry cites voter intimidation examples
CNN ^ | 4-10-05
BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP)
Many voters in last year's presidential election were denied access to the polls
through trickery and intimidation, former Democratic presidential candidate
John Kerry told a voters' group Sunday."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1381116/posts

Kerry E-Mail Concerning Judicial Nominees
April 1, 2005
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375683/posts

Hanoi Kerry Veterans Group Calls on Congress
to Impeach George W. Bush and Richard Cheney
April 3, 2005
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1376873/posts

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I've been posting threads
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almost from day one on FR.

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Hanoijane.net ^ | HENRY MARK HOLZER and ERIKA HOLZER,PhilDragoo

Posted on 10/30/2001 10:05:08 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/560260/posts

So why do they think I'll stop now?

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Demand Kerry be ousted from the US Senate!

There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate

He is there illegally!

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For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
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Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
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negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen

Why is Kerry still in the US Senate?
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxiv.html

And the FBI has proof of his treason.

Hanoi Kerry Timeline of a traitor
includes FBI files

May 1970
Kerry and Julia traveled to Paris, France and met with Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), the political wing of the Vietcong, and other Viet Cong and Communist Vietnamese representatives to the Paris peace talks, a trip he now calls a "fact-finding" mission.

(U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953, declares it illegal for a U.S. citizen to go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power.)

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html

a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war,
or with any offense punishable by death,
may be tried at any time without limitation.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#*%20843.%20ART.%2043.%20STATUTE%20OF%20LIMITATIONS


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76 posted on 05/24/2005 6:47:30 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On" FReepers! They want Hanoi Kerry to get a "free pass" mmmm Wonder Why?)
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To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
He said he would sign it. He didn't say he would turn it in after he had signed it.

Which makes me wonder what his staff has been checking, that he spelled his name right?

77 posted on 05/24/2005 6:49:15 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Air Conditioned Gypsy
''The next step is to send it to the Navy, which will happen in the next few days.

"The check is in the mail..."

78 posted on 05/24/2005 6:55:05 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bump


79 posted on 05/24/2005 6:58:35 AM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ALOHA RONNIE; mhking; Vets_Husband_and_Wife; MeekOneGOP; jmstein7; ...

Ping!


80 posted on 05/24/2005 7:00:53 AM PDT by JLO
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