Some of you on here have not very supportive of Republicans to begin with -- how do you think Frist could control McCain and others when they had their minds made up. He didn't have the votes after the 6th Republican agreed to make a deal.
The lack of politial savvy on this website is disturbing since so many of you pretend you know everything about politics. You want it all but sometimes it doesn't work that way when you have moderates and not all conservatives in the Republican Party.
Leave the Republicans and vote 3rd Party so we can get more liberal RATs in the Senate -- that's the ticket. (sarcasm)
I do believe this website is quickly falling into "my way or no way" mentality. Why don't some of you get out and work to elect conservatives in your State -- if your two Senators were not part of the compromise, then blame others on here from States with moderate Senators. My two Senators from Oklahoma are conservative and not part of the agreement -- am not about to desert them for any reason and especially a half baked reason like some on here have suggested.
Go ahead and trash all Republican Senators and change your party registration -- that is really is intelligent (sarcasm). Personally you all can have this site to trash Republicans and if the RATs take charge then you will all be happy.
I am through disagreeing with anyone here after what I am reading on this thread. You can all have this site for all I care. I am in the trenches trying to elect Conservative Republicans which we have in Oklahoma and am tired putting up with the 3rd party folks pretending to be Republicans or trolls pretending to be conservative -- not worth my time as I have better ways to spend my time like getting a County Party back on its feet. I miss a lot of people who have left because they added common sense to some of these threads instead of the half baked replies I am seeing recently.
Enjoy your trashing and see what you end up with in the end. I will take my chances and spend my time on our Oklahoma Republicans and helping defeat a RAT Governor and take control of our Senate for the first time next year so conservatives will control all of OK State Government. Time better spent IMHO!
Very well said, indeed.
This thread needed that, thank you.
LVM
Cheers!
Re Your POST 225: Good post. Same for us here in Georgia. Let's all get busy on the RINOs and the RNC and get this fixed. I had a discussion with someone on another thread who viewed RINOs as preferable to loony RATS. Not me brother. At least you can depend on a RAT to be a RAT. We have made good progress but tonight makes it clear the job is not over and we can't give up before we get it done. Take the good from this and press on. Next fight is SCOTUS and we must win that one. And come November 2006 let's remember tonight and act accordingly.
I don't know how old you are, I suspect much younger than I. For 35 years I have voted Republican, I've worked for the party, I've chaired groups devoted to the GOP.
Everyday, here in California, I've gone to work and defended conservatives. They need money, I've sent it. They need advocacy, I've provided it. When Ford dumped Reagan in 1976, I ate crow and supported Ford (the loser). All I have ever expected from the party, and fellow Republicans, is loyalty.
Yet, in those 35 years I've never seen loyality by liberal Republicans (we used to call them Rockefeller Republicans). Whenever there is a crunch, they run like rabbits...but whenever they need help, they feel free to pull the Republican card in donations, manpower, and votes.
There comes a point when enough is enough. The compromise is a rotten and horrible deal, even worse than all the rumored compromises. THREE, THREE JUDGES...that's it. No promises, filibustering as a tactic is embodied in an agreement.
You say, "thats okay, be a sucker, continue to work". I say "F that, I'm not being exploited". If I wanted to lose, and maintain self respect, I'd be a libertarian. If I wanted to win, I'd be a democrat. If I wanted to be a foolish sucker, I'd vote Republican.
Frist has made it clear "We've sent a message about abuse of power to Bush"...what is Frist's response...he squeaks like a mouse with tepid assurances its not really a loss.
Unless Frist says, "Anytime the Democrats filibuster I will submit the constitutional option for a majority vote" he is lost.
We lost. I accept that. We were stabbed in the back, I will not accept that.
Tomorrow I quit the party. The next day, I will only work for party's and canidates that are moral...the Warner's and McCains of the world should be eliminated. If necessary I would work for democrats to see that happen.
Thanks for your post #225. Your voice of reasoning was much needed and appreciated. I hope those threatening to leave the Republican Party will remember what happened when Perot divided the Republican Party in 1992.
I wish I could say my two Senators were conservative, but Lindsey Graham has been a big disappointment. I will work to see that a conservative replaces him in 2008. I wish others would work for a change rather than leaving the Party.
Can you tell me how this would be any different than what we have now?
That's what we thought in Texas. For the first time since reconstruction, the Republicans control the governor's office and both houses of the state legislature. They promptly voted to create a new tax, which is an income tax in all but name. For the Children of course. And, to relate it directly to the subject matter of this thread, for the Judges, who declared the last two school funding methods unconstitutional, and those were elected, mostly Republican, Judges.