Posted on 05/23/2005 4:18:39 PM PDT by jern
Announce Filibuster Compromise
Doesn't matter. The dems will hold out for the next Congress in the hope of picking up seats. Their base will demand it. They will listen to their base. The RINO negotiators will keep their word and oppose changing the rules of the senate. No vote on SCOTUS nominee this Congress.
Better add Pennsylvania to the list. Rick Santorum is up for reelection and I think he will have a fight.
If McCain runs for Senate and gets the nomination, we need to donate to the Dem who runs against him. We need to make an example of him.
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That's what the CFG did to Specter and nearly >1 or 2% pulled it off.
Well if you think that by staying home you will "show the GOP" you are quite wrong.
Spending increased because well spending always, in every modern government in the history of the world, always increases. It is a fact of life.
If the Dems take over Congress spending will increase a great deal more my friend.
This is a stall. The test will be to see if Frist brings these three up tomorrow for the up or down vote, and then brings the fourth up Wednesday. The stall will thereby purchase a total of 2 days, if Frist plays it correctly.
If the Dems filibuster the next judge outside the agreement, the RINOs are given cover in their next election as having themselves been betrayed.
In other words, this can be a huge victory in not just numbers but PR too, but Frist has to play it right.
I agree. We get the votes done. We could get our judges, and the democrats have to sit down and shut up.
Isn't this what we wanted all along? To vote without a filibuster? That's what we got.
I was corrected before. BTW, you must have slept through during the prescription drug debate when the President used every tactic in the book to get his party to vote for it. He has his priorities and will pick a fight when he needs to.
Polls on Lou Dobbs tonight suggest that the Dems will pick up seats as many people are unhappy with the RINOs.
Let the RNC know what you think about this Republican sell-out of the Constitution. What we lost in this compromise is 200 years of Constitutional rule. We now have to check with the Democraps to see if the President's nominees are too extreme for McLame and the other RINOs: membership@rnchq.org
Exactly!!!!
The Republicans didn't win the war, but they won a very important battle, with no casualties!!!!
Dean in Az
I guess we do agree on that. And I am nice, thank you! I haven't been around much, too much meaness on FR in the last months.
And all the gnashing of teeth and vows to stay home next election and the declaration that the war is lost after a battle is just tiresome. Things seem to play out right if we give them time. And we don't get everything we want. And socially I think the country is split down the middle, right smack down the middle.
And if Frist did this that would give the democrats the majority.
"He [Lanny Davis] said President Bush will have to CONSULT WITH THESE MODERATE SENATORS IN THE FUTURE, (puke)."
That's what I've been saying tonight - hate to agree with Lanny Davis on anything, but the big winners tonight are the RINOs who in a remarkable power play have asserted an absolutely controlling role in all future judicial nominations from Pres. Bush. The RINO votes (some of them) were always needed, but now in effect they have asserted their power to decide yay or nay on whether the "constitutional option" ever goes further, rather than letting it be a matter of "party discipline" which all Rs could be expected to support. McPain and friends have demanded that Bush pay more attention to their views and approvals, else they will not play ball with the WH on nominees.
Statement of People For the American Way President Ralph G. Neas on Senate Compromise Rejecting Nuclear Option The explicit language of the agreement reached tonight by a group of senators rejects the nuclear option, preserves the filibuster and ensures that both political parties will have a say in who is appointed to our highest courts. The agreement embodies the very principle of consultation and consensus that the filibuster encourages. This is good news for the American people. Saving the Senate’s constitutional advice and consent role, and the checks and balances that protect judicial independence, is especially important with multiple vacancies expected on the Supreme Court. The unprincipled nuclear option has been averted. This is a major defeat for the radical right. Senators from both parties have rejected demands by the White House, radical right groups, and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist that the filibuster be eliminated on nominees. It is a rejection of White House demands for virtually unlimited power to undermine the independence of the courts. Nonetheless, we cannot endorse every aspect of the deal that was announced today. We are deeply concerned that it could lead to confirmation of appeals court judges who would undermine Americans’ rights and freedoms. We will urge Senators to vote against confirmation of nominees who have not demonstrated a commitment to upholding individual liberties and the legal and social justice accomplishments of the past 70 years. The bipartisan rejection of the nuclear option provides President Bush with a clear path out of the divisive impasse that has been caused by his obstinate refusal to engage in bipartisan consultation and compromise on judicial nominations. It is time for President Bush to recognize what the senators who negotiated this agreement know – that the Senate is the President’s constitutional partner in appointing federal judges. It is time for the White House to abandon its confrontational strategy on judges, and to work with senators from both parties to find some consensus nominees, especially in the case of expected Supreme Court vacancies.
No, they didn't blink, they bent over.....again!!! They sold us out....again!!!
If your understanding is correct thenthere is no problem ...All they did is rubberstamp what could easily have happened anyway which is to delay the fight.
Big if. I think his sense of timing may be a problem. Somebody pointed out earlier that one of the problems was that Frist was late in starting out on this - if he'd done it in January, it would have been easy. Or easier, at least.
I thought you "were through with me"?
Anyway, I apologize. I was heated and you are correct in that I didn't start off debating. I'd argue my "what are you, stupid?" was rhetorical but it's not good to make excuses.
Precisely what Lanny Davis predicted earlier. God help us.
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