Posted on 05/21/2005 12:11:00 AM PDT by Eurotwit
These controversial words were written by former minister for equality in a coloumn in the feminist magazine WomenPressure (Kvinnotryck). "I suppose it can be provoking, particular if you are a man", she states.
Margareta Winberg: I am no man hater
The government has a close cooperation with extreme feminists who consider that "men are animals"
This is revealed in Swedish Televisions documentary, "Sex War".
The documentary which is being aired this Sunday shows a strong connection between the governments sex equality policies and the national feminist organisation, Roks.
In Roks' magazine WomenPressure, the former equality minister Margareta Winberg writes in a coloumn:
- Sometimes I am baffled that not more women really hate men.
What do you mean by that?
- When you look around the world to see how women are treated, you can start wondering why women still have patience with men, says Margareta Winberg.
Militant feminism
How do you think such a statement will be received?
- Yes, it can be provoking, particularly for men. I pursue this thought in my coloumn. But, I do not belong in the groups who are manhaters. I just want to emphasize that.
Who would you say belong to that group?
- You should not ask me that. I do not belong to such a group, and I know noone who hates men.
Roks, however, is an organisation that praises militant feminism according to the documentary. Through proffessional lobbying activities in parliament they with the help of Margareta Winberg managed to transform the extreme feminisms' ideas into reality.
- That fraction within Roks who are radical, and which by some are considered to be extreme, is not part of government policy, says Margareta Winberg.
Roks last year, received 11.7 million kroner in government support, and organises two/thirds of the womens organisations in Sweden.
"Men are animals"
In 2006 the womens organisations are going to share 100 million kroner according to an agreement between the social democrat government, the Green party and the left party.
In Roks magazine, the extreme feminists Valeria Solana is hailed in a recent review.
She writes in her manifesto: "To call a man an animal is to flatter him: He is a machine, a walking dildo, a biological mishap."
In the documentary, the chairman (chairwoman, I guess I should say before I get sued: translator note) Irene von Wachenfelt is asked whether she agrees with Solana.
- Yes, men are animals. Don't you agree? says Ireen von Wachenfeldt to the reporter.
When Aftonbladet asks von Wachenfeldt what she means by that, she answers:
- I personally don't considers men animals, but according to Solana I can understand why many women feel that way
NOT IN MY NAME!!!!! I love men. I loved my late husband. My daughters grew up in that environment. They love their husbands. We all have marriages in which we have been equal partners. We have all had good marriages. Their children, boys and girls, are growing up to respect members of both sexes.
I don't even know any die hard feminists. My middle daughter was a feminist for a brief time while a student at Randolph Macon Women's College and right after graduation, but she is a reformed woman now and a very staunch Republican.
Sweden is lost, at least for the present time and foreseeable future. It is a pity. At one time, they had a lot to contribute to the planet.
Without loking it up, can you name any of the mothers of the people on my list? By the way, most of the people on my list were compromised in some way. daVinci was probably gay. Beethoven was deaf for part of his composing career, Einstein had to flee anti-semitism etc. They all flourished against the odds and didn't let their societies keep them down.
I was just opining (that's still legal here, right?) that I hate threads (like these) that end up pitting the sexes against each other instead of promoting conservative philosophy. Every time I object to girls vs. boys threads some rockhead jumps to the wrong conclusion.
This is my opinion--there are conservative men and conservative women, (smart people); and there are liberal men and liberal women, (stupid people). Can we leave the lines drawn there and leave the sex out? Militant feminists are first and foremost liberals, and therefore stupid. That they are women is secondary, and certainly gives them nothing more in common with conservative women than gender. Hilter was a man, and Saddam is a man, but I don't think all men are bad. That would be stupid.
If I don't know their names, could one assume that they didn't exsist? Odds are, I couldn't find that infomation, even if I took the time to try to look it up. It's not the kind of thing where any kind of credit is given.
They all flourished against the odds and didn't let their societies keep them down.
That speaks to their true greatness. It argues against the "level the playing field", multicultural, diversity & affirmative action BS pushed by the left. Meanwhile, it does not argue in favor of recreation of the old standard of women being chatel or maybe it does... What do you think?
There is? How so?
I didn't charge you with sexual harrassment or make ad hominem attacks on you.
I never said you did, especially because you didn't.
Lighten up.
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I was making an observation about Schopenhauer. He was a social loser, disliked women and his philosophy shows it.
His life & how it has interjected itself into his philosophy is irrelevant. It's no different than shooting down anything a woman says on the basis of her looks, without even looking into the merit of what she has had to say. Men who have found social success could embrace some of the close minded bigotry that Schopenhauer expressed, so arguing against his philosophy by citing his own lack of social success does nothing to dispel anything he says.
I did find the essay to be one of the most hilarious things I've ever read. I mean, come on, a crotchety old man on a rant about how much he hates girls.
The part I read didn't say how he felt about girls. Instead, it put out his theory about why we (women) are all bubble brained airheads. I know plenty of women that *have* more hair than wit, but I never felt any kind of need to come up with any theory about what makes them that way. I don't spend any time trying to figure out why some guys act like knuckle draggers either, but maybe that's just me.
Maybe it might seem off base to some, but if a woman made a similiar rant about men(actually, many have) I'd probably find it equally amusing.
It's been quite a few years since I searched out a copy of the SCUM Manifesto & read it. If you're ever looking for some er, light reading...
Can we leave the lines drawn there and leave the sex out?
Here's your very last post before you started posting in this thread: tsk, men.
Why do you need Schopenhauer when you have Pissant? :-P
Cheers.
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