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1 posted on 05/18/2005 12:36:27 PM PDT by StoneGiant
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VDH is an awesome writer. His geopolitical analysis is precisely what our intelligence agencies and our state dept. could do with (as compared to a lot of partisan anal-ysts hanging around Langley and Foggy Bottom as of now).

Bruce thornton seems to have picked up quite a bit of VDH's style, precision, clarity and sharpness.


2 posted on 05/18/2005 12:40:44 PM PDT by voletti (Voletti)
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"the administration has been anxiously assuring the Muslim world that we indeed respect their religion and begging them to please like us."

Except that how much credibility have we? Were not we the ones screaming about yellowcake and WMD's? Are we not the ones who sexually abused our prisoners? We should anyone not believe that we would flush a Koran down a toilet?


3 posted on 05/18/2005 12:43:19 PM PDT by SausageDog
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To: StoneGiant; nuconvert
Hence, while we in the West anxiously monitor our words and deeds for even the slightest offense against Islamic sensibilities

Not me!

I think Islam is a filthy ideology born of the mind of a sadistic schizophrenic. And its practitioners are mainly cowed women and sexually insecure men.

5 posted on 05/18/2005 12:48:52 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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How can any religion claim to be annointed by God when the one thing they do NOT value above all else is TRUTH? If God is Truth, which He must be by defintion, then any religion that claims all methods are legitimate in securing/converting this earth for Him, cannot, by definition, be legitimate. Only a religion that preaches search for Truth (of one's own volition, by the way) can be legitimate.


6 posted on 05/18/2005 12:52:34 PM PDT by sleepy_hollow
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wow


7 posted on 05/18/2005 12:52:35 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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I thought this needs repeating:
Because of the brutal violence of those warriors [The Crusaders] against jihad, we in the West today enjoy the luxury of cynicism, cheap irony, effete tolerance, and hedonism. We moral dwarves stand on the shoulders of those giants and spit on their heads, thinking our ingratitude is really an intellectual sophistication superior to the primitive superstitions and naïve ideals that have made our lives of freedom and prosperity possible.

10 posted on 05/18/2005 12:54:12 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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Seeing that they are all pissed off anyhow....Why don't we start flushing muslims down the toilet.....?

How much worse could it be?


12 posted on 05/18/2005 12:58:30 PM PDT by Radix (Having the best Free Republic Tag Lines since...what time is it anyhow?)
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To: StoneGiant

"Institution!"


23 posted on 05/18/2005 1:33:15 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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"the administration has been anxiously assuring the Muslim world that we indeed respect their religion.."

Anxiety is not getting us anywhere. And why do we feel that we have to continuously apologize? We have become a bunch of whimps. Why not tell them to respect non-Islamic religions and we will respect theirs?


25 posted on 05/18/2005 1:50:46 PM PDT by auburntiger
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To: StoneGiant
There was a book written in the mid-80's by James Burnham entitled The Suicide Of The West that addressed several of these same points concerning the major cultural and geopolitical threat of that time. I do not know if this is a conscious reference or not but I throw it out for consideration.

With respect to the Time Machine reference, Neal Stephenson made the observation that the Eloi were essentially parasitical and that the real, gritty, unattractive motors of that society were, in fact, the Morlocks. Those of us who labor in the technological background so that our "betters" get their face time know just what he was talking about. Me, I'll keep rooting for the Morlocks. They know what to do with cultural threats such as radical Islam. They eat them.

27 posted on 05/18/2005 2:13:36 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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This is truly one of his best...Thanks!


30 posted on 05/18/2005 10:43:32 PM PDT by lainde
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This is truly one of his best...Thanks!


31 posted on 05/18/2005 10:45:29 PM PDT by lainde
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To: StoneGiant; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; Valin; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; ...
Bruce Thornton:

....Anyone familiar with the history of Islam and its 14-centuries-long violent jihad against the West and the Jews will not be surprised or shocked by these events. They express perfectly the arrogant intolerance of a religion convinced it has been chosen by God to rule the world, and so is justified in using every means, whether violence or propaganda, to fulfill that divine mandate. As the final and complete revelation of the divine, Islam feels no need to respect or tolerate other religions or secular notions like "human rights," for they are all the detritus of infidel history to be swept away in the final triumph of the one true religion.

Hence, while we in the West anxiously monitor our words and deeds for even the slightest offense against Islamic sensibilities, we receive in exchange no such consideration; indeed, our eager protestations of respect merely excite more contempt. Thus even as we protest our respect for Islam, Jews continue to be vilified with anti-Semitic rhetoric redolent of Nazi Germany, Palestinian terrorists befoul one of Christianity's most sacred churches, the Al-Aksa mosque in Jerusalem still sits on the site of the Jewish Temple, and in Istanbul Hagia Sophia, once one of Christendom's greatest churches, is still a mosque. Worse still, a whole revisionist history in which the intolerant, imperialistic conqueror is transformed into the tolerant, peace-loving victim of Western imperialism is propagated by self-loathing Westerners whose bigotry against their own culture confirms the Islamist view that we are indeed Godless heathens and spiritual cripples....

....Increasingly we Westerners resemble the Eloi of H.G. Wells' The Time Machine, beautiful, gentle, highly civilized hedonists whose fate is to be devoured raw by the brutal Morlocks. We are the beneficiaries of a culture created by those before us who forged European civilization in the fires of resistance to Islamic jihad: in Spain, in Sicily, in Eastern Europe, in Greece — the plunder, rape, slaughter, massacres, sacks, kidnapping, and enslavement perpetrated by the armies of Allah were for centuries fought by those whose names now most Westerners have forgotten or would be embarrassed to claim as their own. Don John, Charles Martel, Leo the Isaurian, Prince Eugene, Montecuccoli, Andrea Doria, El Cid, Sobieski, Charlemagne, Suvorov, Boucicaut,, Hunyadi, Fernando II of Castile, Alfonso I of Aragon, Guiscard, Harold Hardrada-who among us knows anything about the men who fought and killed so that Europe, and Europe's offspring America, today looks like Europe and America instead of looking like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, or Syria?

Because of the brutal violence of those warriors against jihad, we in the West today enjoy the luxury of cynicism, cheap irony, effete tolerance, and hedonism. We moral dwarves stand on the shoulders of those giants and spit on their heads, thinking our ingratitude is really an intellectual sophistication superior to the primitive superstitions and naïve ideals that have made our lives of freedom and prosperity possible. Meanwhile jihad by other means — demography, immigration, terrorism, the oil weapon — continues apace, at least until the time when a nuclear, chemical, or biological weapon falls into the hands of a modern jihadist and we are returned to the sort of slaughter our ancestors suffered for centuries. Maybe then we'll wake up.


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33 posted on 05/19/2005 12:34:12 PM PDT by Tolik
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GREAT band back in the early/mid 1980s!
35 posted on 05/19/2005 12:46:07 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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40 posted on 05/19/2005 1:11:44 PM PDT by SJackson (I don't think the red-tiled roofs are as sturdy as my asbestos one, Palestinian refugee)
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Bookmarking to read later.


65 posted on 05/20/2005 6:34:23 AM PDT by TheSarce (Liberalism: The irrational, intolerant cult that dare not speak its name.)
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V.D. hits another homerun. We will suffer another horrible bombing with great loss of life on US soil. Terrorists will be identified as Muslims, (or not, if the govt. has anything to say about it), and then the gloves will truly come off. Goodbye Mecca, etc.. Of course, if Muslims blow up the Vatican, Italy will blame the US.


124 posted on 05/20/2005 12:29:06 PM PDT by hershey
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