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1 posted on 05/18/2005 8:06:27 AM PDT by Redcitizen
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I hope this self-righteous, sanctimonius freak show of a librarian feels better about herself when some towelhead blows up the space needle. Can there be any clearer evidence that liberals are anti-American?


2 posted on 05/18/2005 8:09:49 AM PDT by Old_Mil
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I wonder if Joan Airoldi has been as active in denouncing Fidel Castro's recent arrest and imprisonment of several Cuban librarians for the crime of keeping counterrevolutionary literature in their collections.
3 posted on 05/18/2005 8:10:08 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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No surprise that this story emanates from Washington State.

Outrage there is a varsity sport and protecting America is something other people do.


4 posted on 05/18/2005 8:10:12 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Anyone can see what's wrong, but can you see what's right?" -Winston Churchill)
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No surprise that this story emanates from Washington State.

Outrage there is a varsity sport and protecting America is something other people do.


5 posted on 05/18/2005 8:10:34 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Anyone can see what's wrong, but can you see what's right?" -Winston Churchill)
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Perhaps if we secured our borders, coasts, airports, and ports, we wouldn't feel the need to police the thoughts of citizens.

Good for this library for standing up for their patrons. Never mess with a librarian; they're the most methodical people on God's green Earth and they can dismantle you and sort the parts before you have any idea that anything's wrong.
6 posted on 05/18/2005 8:11:12 AM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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"...For our trustees, this sense of responsibility to protect libraries as institutions where people are free to explore any idea ran up against their desire to help their government fight terrorism..."


Sounds like an O'Reilly rant in the making.


7 posted on 05/18/2005 8:11:22 AM PDT by Icthus
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Perhaps the library cop, Mr. Bookman, needs to get involved.


8 posted on 05/18/2005 8:12:20 AM PDT by GianniV
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"Librarian's brush with FBI shapes her view of the USA Patriot Act"



No good deed goes unpunished, I am sure that OB muslime terrorist fanatics will bear this in mind and spare your sorry arses.


9 posted on 05/18/2005 8:12:50 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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Thanks for post. After reading the article, it seems to me that the law and legal system worked.


10 posted on 05/18/2005 8:12:56 AM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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I'm am puzzled by the inability to cooperate with the FBI in this instance. I should think Homeland Security would have priority. Silly me.


11 posted on 05/18/2005 8:12:59 AM PDT by sarasota
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And if by chance, the patron in question here killed a dozen people in a sudden terror attack, would the librarian feel so smug about protecting an Osama bin Laden sympathizer?

Probably would pat themselves on the back and say, "Way to go man!" It wouldn't surprise me.

Yes, I'm leery of the government having too much power, but a fishing expedition to see who had written the words in the margin is not a case of the FBI arbitrarily exercising its muscle. It is a legitimate use of the power to investigate a possible terror sympathizer in our borders. In the future, terrorists can avoid such investigations by refraining from writing in the books where other readers are apt to see it and send it on the FBI.


13 posted on 05/18/2005 8:15:25 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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If it means preventing a terrorist from killing 3000 Americans, I think I can live with the anguish of knowing that the government may look at my library record.

(Just don't give the government access to my MP3 playlist. I don't want to have to explain away Judy Garland's greatest hits.)


14 posted on 05/18/2005 8:15:40 AM PDT by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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As a former librarian, I have a lot of problems with the secret court aspect of the Patriot Act. I also think the librarian was correct not to release the list without a subpoena. For that matter, if the FBI had just been asking for a list of anyone who had borrowed a book on Bin Laden, I would have resisted the subpoena.

However, given the specifics of this case and that specific piece of marginalia, I think the correct act would have been for the Board of Trustees to release the list.
16 posted on 05/18/2005 8:17:05 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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While we do need to be on guard against government (and private party for that matter) invasions of privacy...

This whole business of library books seems a tempest in a teapot. Since when have library records ever been construed as "private"? It wasn't all that long ago that all you needed to do to find out who checked out a book from the library would have been to simply open the cover and look at the card on the inside. Right there, for anybody to see, were the names and dates of everybody that had checked it out.

So what?


19 posted on 05/18/2005 8:17:39 AM PDT by Ramius (I'd rather be lucky than good.)
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It was a moment that librarians had been dreading.

Nonsense. They love this crap!

20 posted on 05/18/2005 8:17:49 AM PDT by rogue yam
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Librarian's brush with FBI shapes her view of the USA Patriot Act

Does anyone believe this for one second? This librarian had NO OPINION about the Patriot Act until they were given this simple request?

21 posted on 05/18/2005 8:18:22 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Newsweek Lied! People Died!)
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The Soviets collected all kinds of "information" on much that went on in Nazi Germany and then in Western Europen. This information is still sitting in boxes, unread, in the former KGB stockrooms. Maybe this leftists would like to sift through some the these "recordings" from 1945!

There are not enough people in the employ of the FBI to cover the recordings of high-priority targets, like Zarqawi and his ilk, for them to start worrying about what some perve is reading in a Library in Schmuckville, USA! These people need to breathe some 02.


24 posted on 05/18/2005 8:19:45 AM PDT by NCCarrs (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/30/quake.usa.editorial.reut/index.html)
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Fortunately for our patrons, we were able to mount a successful challenge to what seems to have been a fishing expedition. If it had returned with an order from a secret court under the Patriot Act, the FBI might now know which residents in our part of Washington State had simply tried to learn more about bin Laden.

With a Patriot Act order in hand, I would have been forbidden to disclose even the fact that I had received it and would not have been able to tell this story.

Hmm... Given that the FBI withdrew the subpeona so quickly, I wonder if they then went through the Secret Court and that this disavowal is the librarian's way of signaling that.

25 posted on 05/18/2005 8:20:12 AM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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Would USA Today ever run a story headlined:

Citizen's Brush With Illegal Aliens Shapes Her View Of Border Security

27 posted on 05/18/2005 8:21:05 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Newsweek Lied! People Died!)
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Perhaps everyone who thinks there's no problem with the request can write down everything they read till they die, and send the list to the Government every month.


32 posted on 05/18/2005 8:26:19 AM PDT by notigar
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