Posted on 05/18/2005 8:06:25 AM PDT by Redcitizen
Edited on 05/18/2005 8:17:50 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20050518/cm_usatoday/librariansbrushwithfbishapesherviewoftheusapatriotact
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Does anyone believe this for one second? This librarian had NO OPINION about the Patriot Act until they were given this simple request?
It's not just Washington state. In TX, the librarians call our house when my books come in but won't tell Mr. M which ones. They won't even let him check them out for me even when I've taken time out to call and ask that he be allowed to. Interesting, they allow our kids (whom they know) to run in with my card and check them out.
"I hope this self-righteous, sanctimonius freak show of a librarian feels better about herself when some towelhead blows up the space needle. Can there be any clearer evidence that liberals are anti-American?"
If they want the evidence they need to go through the correct legel channels. The idea of "secret courts" in America should start ringing a few bells for those who love this country. I'm all for either deporting of jailing terrorists but let's not sink to the level of some third world dictatorship to do it.
The Soviets collected all kinds of "information" on much that went on in Nazi Germany and then in Western Europen. This information is still sitting in boxes, unread, in the former KGB stockrooms. Maybe this leftists would like to sift through some the these "recordings" from 1945!
There are not enough people in the employ of the FBI to cover the recordings of high-priority targets, like Zarqawi and his ilk, for them to start worrying about what some perve is reading in a Library in Schmuckville, USA! These people need to breathe some 02.
With a Patriot Act order in hand, I would have been forbidden to disclose even the fact that I had received it and would not have been able to tell this story.
Hmm... Given that the FBI withdrew the subpeona so quickly, I wonder if they then went through the Secret Court and that this disavowal is the librarian's way of signaling that.
yes I was speaking in the narrative sense, this man carries out horrid attacks (THEN) our government talks about him continuously and engages in a nearly 4-year hunt for him, etc.
Your point on the inactivity of his agents is noted. He must have greatly under-estimated the severity of US response.
Citizen's Brush With Illegal Aliens Shapes Her View Of Border Security
What if the person who wrote in the margin didn't check the book out? Not all people are clever, but that would be the smartest thing to do if one simply had to write in the book.
Exactly. She has been waiting to stick her finger in the eye of Homeland Security, FBI, or what-have-you....I am siding with the Feds on this one because this lady is only doing this because she hates America first and last.
Perhaps everyone who thinks there's no problem with the request can write down everything they read till they die, and send the list to the Government every month.
The government's utter disinterest in securing the border (to the point of condemning citizens who try to do the job for them) shapes my view of all the other stuff they do under color of "security".
Well, I'll get flamed for this I'm sure. But I spent most of my adult life defending the rights of the Citizens of this country to be free to do as they wish.
It's not the Governments business what I or anyone else reads.
It's only the Government's business what they DO with what they read.
Yeah it sucks, but those who would give up a little freedom to achieve the slightest bit of safety deserve NEITHER.
Well said.
Then the fishing expedition will catch no fish.
But just assuming that the person with the pen didn't check out the book, doesn't mean one shouldn't check it out to make sure.
There is no FBI list here. Only a library's list of people who checked out a particular book that happened to have something written in the margins. Something highly suspect of having been written by a terrorist. For all we know, it was someone who was writing a class assignment on OBL who jotted down the quote in the margins so it would be easy to reference.
So long as the FBI attempts to have probably cause for asking for privileged information I won't be worried. It is when they stop caring for such niceties that we should worry. So, I agree that the librarian had every right to challenge the request, but to deny it after being presented with what appears to me to be a reasonable example of probable cause, I think the librarian was just a foolish political hack.
I think Bookman was Jim Carrey's boss in 'Bruce Almight.' Every time I see his mug, I just yell out, "It's Bookman!"
YOU might be able to live with it, but I WOULDN'T be able to live with it.
I'm not of the "I'm not doing anything wrong, so I have nothing to worry about," crap. The Patriot Act violates the Constitution -- and the government looking at what people read encroaches on freedom.
What can you say, though -- some people like to be ruled with an authoritarian fist, in the name of faux security.
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