LIVE SENATE THREAD: "Nuclear Wednesday" for judicial nominations: C-span 2 - 9:30 am EST

C-span 2 ^ | May 18, 2005

[ken5050]

Welcome, all you Freepers, to the continuing C-span soap operas about judicial nominations. "The Guiding SEARCHLIGHT, " "As the SENATE Turns, "One NOMINATION to Live" "GERIATRIC Hospital" (for all you Byrd and Lautenberg fans out there). Follow along with us, as the Dems raise the level of histrionics, bloviation, pontification, and all around bad acting to new highs, er, lows...

[tiredoflaundry]

[Howlin]

That's not going to work on me this time; and believe me, I've posted that very same thing here over and over.

I will get my revenge. I sat through 8 years of Clinton and 4 years of "He stole the election."

Now we have the MAJORITY -- and frankly I just don't care HOW we get the judges; just get them.

[defconw]

Oh Hell, now Dayton is saying that WE are desecrating that institution! I can't stand it! Give he a break!

[oceanview]

absolutely true, I would rather the moderate Rs vote to sustain the current rules - rather then agreeing to some compromise that has them changing their votes on particular judges, scuttling them in some pre-arranged plan with the Dems. that would be very bad.

[Mo1]

What the hell is Dayton talking about ???

Frist said for a living I use to cut people's hearts out??

[hipaatwo]

Rats! I've got a $50 bet with FReeper for an up or down vote on at least 2 appellate court nominees before 6/13/2005. :-(



I heard that too..LOL

BTW..Did she tell you she's unemployed at the moment :)

[the anti-liberal]

I understand the fury this brings out because I feel it too, but putting more Dems into power will not make things better by far.

Hear ye, hear ye! Worth repeating!

[Soul Seeker]

Yeah, I know.

But the main reason I voted for the President in 2000 as a moderate liberal at the time was because of his Character. His Faith. I put Character above all politics. I place it above ideology. It transcends everything. It is the main reason I'll never vote for McCain. He is a man without any honor.

I am a conservative. I am not a Republican. I work within the Party toadvance conservatisms because I believe in it, and support people I believe will advance it. I don't expect all or nothing right away, but under no circumstance will I tolerate cowards. Under no circumstance do I tolerate betrayal. Just as I worked to create this majority and put this President in office, I will experience no hesitation in bringing down any Rep that betrays us all.

I cannot tolerate the thought of ati-American appeasers in office, but worse I cannot tolerate those cloaked in pretense as Republicans.

Character Matters.

[Howlin]

If we live that long. :-)

[Dad yer funny]

FReep mail'd ya

[A Citizen Reporter]

Don't forget, little Dayton gets real scared very easily. No telling what he might have heard!

[kcvl]

I understand the fury this brings out because I feel it too, but putting more Dems into power will not make things better by far. I guess its a catch 22 but everyone has to follow their own heart.

Excuse me, but what difference does it make when you elect Republicans who are going to vote like Democrats?! I don't want them to "get-along", I want them to fight like hell for what they told me they believed in.

[AFPhys]

Signing off to phone Warner's office...

[defconw]

OK you heard that too I thought I was halucinating! Now he's taling about Christians, why don't I believe him?

[Bahbah]

Frist said for a living I use to cut people's hearts out??

Lots of good laughs today. Frist was responding to concerns of a conservative group about whether he could hold firm on the judicial issue. I take him to mean that, if he had the nerve for heart surgery, he can certainly handle this. Dayton sees it as a metaphorical desire to cut the heart out of the Senate. LOL. This is too good. I know there are intelligent people in Minnesota, but Dayton sure isn't one of them.

[Howlin]

I'm afraid it's not them, but others.

[Bullish]

Any Rino who caves to these lousy democrats doesn't deserve to even be in the Senate as a Republican.

[Dolphy]

Just think how scary that is: you do realize, of course, that posters like you and I are consider "the mushy middle" by the "real, true conservatives," right?

Yes, many of us are and that's why our voices are needed right now. We can't continue to let the MSM and Dems paint the nominees as right-wing, judicial extremists. We cannot let a few marginal Republicans use us for trade, believing that we are a small group of extremists.

[Txsleuth]

Hey you guys, remember when Frist and Reid and Byrd were having their little discussion the other day---when Byrd started discussing the book of Esther?

What got Byrd all discombobulated was Frist bringing up his promise to allow up or down votes on his nominees---

We laughed about Byrd but I really didn't think anymore of it until just now--

Who else was at that meeting from the dems? Who else heard Byrd say that, and did they (a dem) also promise to give up or down votes....

IOW, I wonder if Byrd and/or other dem senators will be gently reminded of this meeting?

[Cboldt]

Here's another parliamentary maneuver that might be used to advantage. But one has to "think in reverse" to get it.

After a significant amount of debate has passed, Frist calls for the vote. There is objection. Frist calls for a vote to table the nominee. A motion to table is not debatable, and passes with a simple majority.

The motion to table fails (a majority, GOP mostly, votes against it) and the matter stays on the Senate floor. Frist again calls for unanimous consent to take the vote, seeing that a majority of Senators are willing to move on.

Just a hair-brained idea. But motion to table (which is not debatelable) appears in many of the previous incarnations of "nuclear option." Just never in this specific form.