Posted on 05/15/2005 7:30:54 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles
High B/W video here: http://www.kvoa.com/global/video/WorldNowASX.asp?playerType=native&ClipID1=422977&h1=McCain%20immigration%20bill%20to%20be%20challenged&vt1=v&at1=Agriculture&d1=75200&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&playerVersion=6 Estimates place more than 10 million illegal immigrants inside American lines.
Senator John McCain wants to match many of them with the work they seek.
"Our proposal is earmarked for jobs that Americans won't do, and there are clearly jobs that Americans will not do," says McCain.
McCain's new immigration reform bill would allow qualifying illegal immigrants to receive worker-visas after they pay a $2,000 fine.
Several years later, the immigrants and their families could become U.S. citizens.
"This has widespread support, it has broad bi-partisan support," the Senator says.
But some politicians say just the idea granting citizenship to people who unlawfully entered the country, is wrong.
"What does it tell the rest of the world? What does it tell the people who are trying to come here legally," asks former Arizona State Senator Randy Graf.
President Bush has publicly favored immigration measures similar to those McCain is proposing, but some lawmakers, like Colorado's Tom Tancredo, say the bill doesn't do enough to seal off the border, and they say the President will never see the bill, unless that becomes priority one.
Graf is mounting a second challenge to U.S. Rep. Jim Kolbe, R-Tucson. Kolbe is a top backer of guest worker programs and is liberal on immigration issues while Graf, a former state legislator, is conservative and was a top advocate of Prop. 200.
Thank you for listening :)
Perhaps we should check the election results of RINOs like McPain for fraud just as we should the Dems votes. It doesn't seem possible for him to continue winning elections with his erratic record and slavish addiction to MSM attention. Or are the voters of AZ really that dense?
Something is very strange about AZ voters... and the pols here. Must be the sun baking our brains. I'm not as familiar with people who voted for McCain, but I could NOT fathom how people could vote for Kolbe in November when there was a true conservative alternative.
Good photo of Tom T. - he is awesome. He'll be speaking here:
When I see guys like Kolbe I think of the slimy Weimar Germans, decadent and deceitful. It was their weakness, and acquiescence to both the Communists and the Fascists that led to the second cataclysm. He's doing the same thing with the Mexican border: acqueiscing to invasion by a foreign and hostile power. It can only lead to bad.
When I see the beautiful Latvian, Lithuanian and Estonian people, I cannot imagine the pain of being under the thumb of the Russian Communist Party. It enrages me now.
I was in Czechoslovakia in 1972, with my mother. She was raised in Prague, before the war. It had been the intellectual center of Europe, rivaling Budapest and Paris.
But she could not take being there with the Russian troops on the streets. This was four years after the Prague spring, and the bullet holes on the walls of Václavské námìstí (Wenceslas Square) were still there. And Prague was run-down, dirty, a shadow of itself. The Communists destroy every place they control.
The people were dour and afraid. They walked without talking. Beautiful, thin sloe-eyed Czech women, Paulina Poriskova's all, walked in dreary Communist rags from Russian mills and kept their heads down. I knew then that Communism would fall: the people would not tolerate it. Police states only last so long.
I had heard it was bad. I didn't know how bad. I wanted to start a goddamn riot right there. I never, ever listened to any fool in the 1970's try to tell me "communism isn't so bad". Morons all.
I know from my step-grandmother that it was the same, even worse in the Baltics. The Russians punished them because they were seen as being intransigent in the war against the Nazi's - conveniently forgetting that it was Stalin himself who signed the pact with Hitler. I was not surprised when Lithuania and Estonia came out in favor of the Iraq war: they said "we know what it is like to be ruled by murdering tyrants".
My mother lived to see Eastern Europe liberated. It was the lifting of a great weight.
It will be up to us as a generation to prevent another cataclysm like that happening.
Your post burns with white light intensity. My comment can only be thanks.
Wow, that is a very well-written and difficult story. Thank you for posting that.
Welded in my genes is true. It's an anthropological trait - we are fiercely proud of our ancestors. Growing up, we were in folk dance groups and Lithuanian scouting groups. I learned English in first grade (no biggie when you are little). We still only speak Lithuanian to each other. It is one of the world's oldest spoken languages (according to some linguists, may be the oldest). The Russian Commies are pis#ed that the Baltic people refuse to speak Russian. President Bush's visit last week was incredible. He was the first president to speak of the Baltic people's oppression, and to put the Baltics in the news again.
I never thought I'd see the day Lithuania would be free. And, doing fairly well. The cities and castles are beautiful and it's less expensive to travel there than other parts of Europe. And, the world's finest amber comes from the Baltics. Ah, yes, and we have been told we all look like Paulina too! Funny.
My parents could go reclaim their houses, confiscated by Communists, but they don't want to return. They hid guns, knives, jewelry, etc. in the walls because they thought they'd be back. (My siblings and I want to go back to look for treasures:)
It IS extremely frightening to see people treat Communism lightly. It has always made me very angry how no one discusses the 60 million Stalin murdered. Hollywood doesn't make movies about that because he is their hero.
I never understood how so many could die (including some of our relatives). My father said that while being shipped to Siberia in open railroad cars, exposed to ice-cold waters and diseases, many died before they even reached the labor camps...
When I tried to start a "diversity" group at work, I was told no. Only certain others are allowed to have such groups. And, my "Parking for Lithuanians Only" sign was ripped off my door and tossed on the ground. An employment/immigration lawyer friend had given me that sign, as a matter of fact. In the pc place I work, every day I get emails and see posters on the way in, promoting all sorts of "diversity" groups. My personal favorite is the one about "gender questioning" and how accepting I need to be when people don't understand their gender.
Here's an excerpt of what I found:
It was only a year since deceitful Bolshevik Russia had turned on its reluctant Baltic allies, cowardly breaking trust and abusing the treaty, which allowed the Reds the use of a few designated military bases in the Baltic States. It was from these bases that the coups d'etat were successfully launched against the legitimate democratic governments of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
And
The chilling statistics reveal that one third of those deported - the children and the elderly - died en route. Most of the rest died later. The Russo-fascist plan was a simple one: the original populace out, the Russian colonists in.The deportation lists were drawn up with the help of local stooges; it didn't take much to be "honoured" by being included: all you had to do was to be successful. If you were a businessman, a shopkeeper, a well-to-do farmer, a proud owner of a pharmacy or a bakery, a writer, an officer, or a teacher, your name would have been there. In other words the criminal regime in Moscow desired to remove the genetic elite of the captive nation, to destroy the best and the most able. Tens of thousands of Latvians were roused from their beds that night, herded into the cattle trucks and taken to the Arctic wastes of Siberia for extermination.
That is what BQ's family ran from.
I can't post the link that I got this from. It's too horrific. Even for this forum.
This is the nightmare that the liberal weaklings have in store for us if we let them gut the country.
The issue of immigration from Mexico has two points to be made: if we let the United States be ethnically undermined by people who neither understand what has happened in the last two centuries, nor have the worldview to resist it, then the whole world is at risk because the United States will have been weakened. Does the world have any hope if they must rely on the Mexican Army to save it? After all, when they are the majority population in the West, they will occupy a significant fraction of the armed forces of the United States. Won't really be the WWII gang, will it? Two, it's an insult to real refugees everywhere to hear the citizens of downtown Mexico City paint themselves as victims and refugees, and that's why they just had to break the immigration laws of the United States. Oh Poor Them. Victims of themselves. When you read about the agony of Eastern Europe....their excuses pale.
Jesus God
On a lighter note...
Just let us worry about the "jobs Americans won't do". We'll handle it McLame, we can handle those jobs just fine.
Yes, exactly, and I think that is why my parents and relatives will simply not discuss what happened then...curious as we kids are sometimes. They barely escaped going to Siberia. I do wish more people knew what happened.
Now the Commie murdering bas#ards (Russians) have the gall to be arriving in droves to the U.S. (e.g. Sacramento) to collect SSI.
One way or other, the ones in power find a way to eliminate their selected undesirables. Stalin sent the hard-working non-Russians to Siberia. El Hefe Fox is keeping the educated and shipping us the uneducated and/or illiterate. Since we are not breeding as quickly as they and other illegals are, we might be sh## outa luck soon.
Great photo :)
End Section 8 housing and all the other welfare programs and suddenly there will be a whole class of Americans interested in these jobs. Hunger is an amazing motivator.
Could be.
Senator McCainiac
Push for creepy McCain for president has already started. There is an A&E film coming out based on his book. I bet not a word about how he treated his first wife.
In the EV Tribune a few weeks ago I read a vent which mentioned a teenager who could not find a job he was qualified for because they were all going to illegals.
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