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1 posted on 05/14/2005 11:23:49 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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Islam Ping!


2 posted on 05/14/2005 11:25:01 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing.)
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To: CHARLITE

Political correctness is a mental illness.


3 posted on 05/14/2005 11:34:10 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: CHARLITE

This article needs to be sent to the US Government offices including Dr.Rice and Prez.Bush and your senators in each state. At least that way, they will realize what we are up against. This (Islam) is a serious problem that is threatening the entire civilized world and it needs to be destroyed.

Velocityguy.
-An Ex-Muslim


4 posted on 05/14/2005 11:38:41 PM PDT by velocityguy
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Why don't we see writers like her on Fox News?! I'll forward it to the usual suspects (Hannity, BOR, Cavuto, Gibson)


5 posted on 05/14/2005 11:40:52 PM PDT by lainde
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To: CHARLITE

bttt


7 posted on 05/14/2005 11:52:42 PM PDT by justkillingtime
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To: CHARLITE

8 posted on 05/14/2005 11:54:45 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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Ping!


9 posted on 05/14/2005 11:57:15 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("You would have to double your IQ to be stupid. " --zip)
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Look for more kidnappings that will be followed by the obligatory beheadings of innocent people so that “Islamic honor” can be restored

“Islamic honor”??

Now there's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one.

People who beat their women and murder innocent civillians over a so called religion are pretty short in the "honor" dept.

10 posted on 05/14/2005 11:58:04 PM PDT by Bullish
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To: CHARLITE

I agree with the sentiments expressed but let me give you another perspective on the strategy.

Since 9/11 we have toppled the two arab regimes who stuck their heads out the most. These two countries just happen to surround Iran and give us strategic positioning on Saudi Arabia and Syria. Militarily, this is a good thing.

On the cultural side, we are fighting an enemy that is more of an idea than a specifically targetable entity. From a Christian viewpoint, Jesus told us His Word would prevail wherever it is preached. Because of the success of conversion from Muslims, arab countries do not allow--under pain of death--the preaching of the Gospel. Democratic countries, on the other hand, begin with the basic freedoms of speech, religion and association.

If democracy can truly take hold in this region, then we have put a wooden stake through Islam's heart.

On the flip side, if we were to be more direct as the author suggests, we would likely incite a 2 billion person global bloodbath.

I think we're moving in the right direction strategically and I'll accept some (not all) of the ROP idiocy in exchange for the bigger picture.


11 posted on 05/15/2005 12:00:03 AM PDT by pgyanke (The Son of God became a man to enable men to become sons of God.)
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That's all well and good, but if you declare war on all Muslims things will far worse for us in Iraq, Afghanistan among other places. Put simply it's foolish.

And then what are you going to do with the millions of Muslims that are US citizens living here? Have their neighbors run'em up the nearest flagpole?
12 posted on 05/15/2005 12:04:43 AM PDT by DB (©)
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But don't you know it is the Christians who are the bad people. Just look at the recent court rulings. Have you ever seen a ruling that went against the Muslims? I haven't.


15 posted on 05/15/2005 12:17:07 AM PDT by taxesareforever
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"Also in 1985, Americans got their first glimpse into the soul of the enemy when Islamic terrorists took over the cruise ship Achilles Lauro and shot a crippled American Jew in a wheelchair, Leon Klinghoffer, and then pushed him overboard."

Don't forget, the muslim arab terrorist that did this deed was living in Baghdad with impunity, in the runup to our invasion of Iraq.

Saddam, indeed Iraq, was harboring this terrorist. Against Bush'w warning.


16 posted on 05/15/2005 12:30:02 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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Perhaps this article needs to be emailed to CAIR. Perhaps it needs to be sent about every 5 minutes to those flaming Moo morons.

cair@cair-net.org

17 posted on 05/15/2005 12:39:01 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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Thank you for posting this-My immediate next action is to E-mail Barbara Stock to thank her for writing it.

de Buillion


18 posted on 05/15/2005 12:42:59 AM PDT by de Buillion (Jerusalem, 1099)
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The so-called "neoconservative" strategy (which is actually old-fashioned Wilsonian foreign policy) that the Bush Administration has endorsed as the most gentle means to wage the War on Terror over the long-term, is to democratize Islamic thugocracies.

We hope that will lead to human rights and respect for the lives of Non-Muslims.

The danger is that even if democratic institutions are instituted, Islamists will get elected to office (just as the Nazis were freely elected into office in Germany) and the region will deteriorate and become more dangerous as they acquire weapons of mass destruction, and terrorist groups thrive with the sanction of the Islamic governments, as in the former Iraq and (former?) Pakistan and Libya, and present day Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, etc.

This article argues that we need to more ASSERTIVE in our democratization, because our apologetics legitimize the demands of Islamists in the name of "political correctness". In other words, we need to hold these regions to the same standards of respect for law and order that we hold ourselves and other democracies, not condescend to moral relativism for the sake of appeasement.

Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.
20 posted on 05/15/2005 1:01:34 AM PDT by stradivarius ("If a donkey brays at you, don't bray at him." - George Herbert)
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To: CHARLITE; All

The entire West ( dare I say "the civilized World?" ) is locked in a fight to the death with militant Islam.

There will be no second-place winner, no "third way" solution-- it is March or Die time, folks.

It is Us versus an eighth-century "culture" of plunder & pillage, forced religious "conversions," and the mistreatment of women.

The sooner we face up to this fact realistically and quit dancing around PC talking-point nonsense about diversity and tolerance, the better off we'll all be.

We did not pick this fight- which really has roots in Jimmy Carter's appeasement in 1979 of militants- but we had damned well better see it for what it is, and be prepared to face it and finish it.

I'll put it in raw, personal terms-- I don't want Sharia law visited upon my women, and I don't want a goat-roper "culture" infesting my land.

I don't want their vile, nasty, loathsome weapons of mass destruction loosed upon my fair country, either.

They picked the fight, and now it is up to us to finish it- balls to the wall, hammer and anvil, fire and blood and iron... freedom is never, ever free, and the coin you pay it in is men's lives and tears and blood.

What we saw during Gulf War I was our military doctrine ( high tech ) versus Soviet doctrine ( throw a lot of low tech iron at the problem )-- and we all know how that turned out.

What we saw in the 3-Week War is Information-Tech,
( What some are calling it Hyperwarfare... )
or 21st Century warfare versus 20th Century...

What I would suggest, and call your attention to, is the fact that we, and Israel, are capable of waging 21st Century warfare, and the entire Arab world is not.

Proven fact, by recent events.

One more thing- this will be a war where we are all called to be warriors- so I suggest to you that the time has come to get hard, and stay hard... it really is the time for Fire and Blood and Iron...


Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you aren't informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.

21 posted on 05/15/2005 1:05:48 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Ditto! Islam is evil...and MO is a FALSE PROPHET!


41 posted on 05/15/2005 3:37:01 AM PDT by Toughy (Arianna to wed Nellie Oleson!)
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Barbara Stock tells it like it is. No PC nonsense. Our approach to Islamofascism is directly linked to our attitude toward the UN and for the same reason. Everything is appearance and nuance. Don't offend, even if they're chopping off your head or raping your children. It's madness, and people like John Kerry and his wife, Fat Teddy, Hillary, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and the MSM have the means to flee to the Caymans or Aruba if things get sticky, leaving the rest of us in flyover country to mop up the mess. I wonder if John Kerry had won and a Muslim bomber blew him to kingdom come, would that outrage the MSM? What would it actually take for them to face reality? We are at war and it's akin to that Monty Python skit where the knight is chopped to pieces and continues to threaten annihilation.


49 posted on 05/15/2005 3:59:45 AM PDT by hershey
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BUMPING!


53 posted on 05/15/2005 4:24:24 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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Ms. Stock has perfectly captured exactly how I feel.


56 posted on 05/15/2005 5:56:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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