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Afghan president urges U.S. action over Koran (U.S.A. Please Stay -- And Bend Over)
Reuters ^ | 14 May 2005 | Sayed Salahuddin

Posted on 05/14/2005 4:48:51 PM PDT by Cornpone

KABUL (Reuters) - Afghan President Hamid Karzai urged the United States on Saturday to prosecute and punish anyone found guilt of desecrating the Koran as anti-U.S. protests flared for a fifth day.

Sixteen Afghans have been killed and more than 100 hurt since Wednesday in the worst anti-U.S. protests across Afghanistan since U.S. forces invaded in 2001 to oust the Taliban for harbouring Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda network.

Newsweek magazine said in its May 9 edition investigators probing abuses at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay found that interrogators "had placed Korans on toilets, and in at least one case flushed a holy book down the toilet."

Muslims consider the Koran the literal word of God and treat each book with deep reverence.

"If proven that this happened, then we will strongly ask the American government to put on trial and punish whoever is the culprit," Karzai told a news conference. Such sacrilege was unacceptable to every Muslim.

The United States has tried to calm global Muslim outrage over the incident, saying disrespect for the Koran was abhorrent and would not be tolerated, and military authorities were investigating the allegation.

International Muslim groups in Saudi Arabia also called on the United States to investigate and punish those responsible.

The 57-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference said the report had enraged hundreds of millions of Muslims and would "provide fanatics and extremists with excuses to ... justify their acts of violence and terrorism."

AFGHAN PROTESTS

The anti-U.S. protesters in Afghanistan have also been venting their anger against Karzai, attacking and torching government offices and police stations as well as U.N. and aid group offices.

Protests erupted in several parts of the country again on Saturday but apart from some stone-throwing, there was no violence, officials said.

Karzai said foreign hands were behind the disturbances but did not identify them. Most of Afghanistan's neighbors have at one time or another meddled in its affairs. Karzai has called for close defense ties with the United States to prevent such interference.

This week's violence was an attack on the country and it would fight the threat as it fought Soviet occupiers in the 1980s, he said.

"The three days of violent protests were like a warning that dragons are still at our throat and the enemies of this soil are still active," he said.

GROWING RESENTMENT

Protesters were out on Saturday in the southern town of Spin Boldak, on the border with Pakistan, in neighboring Zabul province, in Farah province in the west and in Badghis in the northwest, officials said.

School students threw stones at an aid agency office in Badghis province but no one was hurt, residents said.

The protests began in the conservative eastern city of Jalalabad on Tuesday. Violence erupted on Wednesday when four protesters were killed. Clashes occurred in different places on Thursday and Friday.

Afghan analysts have said Muslim outrage over the desecration report sparked the protests, not hatred of the United States, but there is growing resentment of U.S. troops, especially in ethnic Pashtun areas of the south and east where they mainly operate.

Karzai said U.S. troops had made mistakes, apparently referring to complaints of heavy handed patrolling.

The United States commands a foreign force in Afghanistan of about 18,300, most of them American, fighting Taliban insurgents and hunting militant leaders, including bin Laden.

U.S. and other foreign troops have not been involved in policing the protests.

Karzai also said he would ask U.S. forces to hand over all Afghan prisoners.

The United States is holding more than 500 prisoners from its war on terrorism at the Guantanamo Bay naval base on Cuba. Many of them were detained in Afghanistan after U.S.-led troops overthrew the Taliban government in late 2001.

U.S. forces are also believed to be holding several hundred Afghans in Afghanistan.


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1 posted on 05/14/2005 4:48:53 PM PDT by Cornpone
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To: Cornpone

"Found guilty" of desecrating the Koran?

Since when is that a crime?


2 posted on 05/14/2005 4:49:34 PM PDT by Crazieman (If Con is the opposite of Pro, what is the opposite of Progress?)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John; Chgogal; EBH; evad; American in Israel; Grut; Bombardier; CarrotAndStick; ...

Ping...Prosecute for what? For a violation of Sharia? This is America. It is time to act against this insanity.


3 posted on 05/14/2005 4:51:47 PM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: Cornpone

Let me get this straight---even though no one has found any evidence that it was an American that flushed the Koran, only one of the Muslim terrorists,

We are supposed to "find" someone to punish, just to placate Karzai?

What happened to our First Amendment rights---I thought WE had the right to do that if WE want to---even though I doubt seriously that WE did it...


4 posted on 05/14/2005 4:52:41 PM PDT by Txsleuth ( Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: Cornpone

Related thread (more Muslim whining):

Pakistan urges US action on Koran
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1403264/posts


5 posted on 05/14/2005 4:53:03 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Cornpone

I'll know I've died and gone to heaven when I read a 'news' report from the wireservices about Afghanistan or Iraq that leaves out the standard editorializing that resentment against the U.S. is 'growing.'


6 posted on 05/14/2005 4:54:03 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: USF; Cornpone

Seriously - what are we supposed to do if it is a fabrication by some muslims at Gitmo? Should we put the liars along with the prisoner who put the book pages in the potty to death?


7 posted on 05/14/2005 4:55:51 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Cornpone

IIRC it is not a crime in America to desecrate the American flag, a Crucifix in a jar of urine is "art", the Ten Commandments cannot be displayed in a courtroom. So, if it makes the "religion of peace" crowd happy, Bush should tell them that if this was done the perpetrators will get the same punishment that they would for desecrating a Bible.


8 posted on 05/14/2005 4:56:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Crazieman
It is not a crime.

Things are heating up now very hot over here - maybe the mother of all jihads is coming soon.

It is time to stand firm.

9 posted on 05/14/2005 4:56:48 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: USF
When the Jordanians took control of Jerusalem in 1947 they destroyed a Jewish cemetery. They used the tombstones for building blocks and the graves as toilets.
What should the "good" Muslims be doing to atone for that?
10 posted on 05/14/2005 4:57:44 PM PDT by ozdragon
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To: Cornpone

Let me get this straight...it's OK to burn the U.S. flag.....


11 posted on 05/14/2005 4:57:54 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Cornpone

The 57-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference said the report had enraged hundreds of millions of Muslims and would "provide fanatics and extremists with excuses to ... justify their acts of violence and terrorism."

Since when did they need an excuse?
Plus they have NEVER had to justify their acts to their
religion.

Their excited by someone dissing the koran, well hell,
I feel the same way about them burning the American Flag.


12 posted on 05/14/2005 4:58:19 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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"If proven that this happened, then we will strongly ask the American government to put on trial and punish whoever is the culprit," Karzai told a news conference.

Excuse me, exactly what crime could we charge him with?

13 posted on 05/14/2005 4:59:17 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952
Excuse me, exactly what crime could we charge him with?

Possibly clogging up government property.

14 posted on 05/14/2005 5:01:12 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: expatguy

After thinking about I have another idea. Having studied organizations like CAIR, MAS, ISNA and the history of the Muslim Brotherhood and how it infiltrated all the professional associations in Egypt as a prelude to its attempt to overthrow the government, I wouldn't be surprised if the responsible journalists for this story were Islamist stooges or moles. It would be a brilliant strategy to penetrate our MSM and use them as a vehicle to discredit America and it would add legitimacy to all the lies. That is, if our MSM was legitimate. The only thing that can guard against that kind of subversive information attack against us is responsible journalism. I think we have already lost that war.


15 posted on 05/14/2005 5:03:48 PM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: Cornpone
Newsweek magazine said in its May 9 edition investigators probing abuses at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay found that interrogators "had placed Korans on toilets, and in at least one case flushed a holy book down the toilet."

OK Newsweek. You b*st*rds. While we have brave men and women dying to bring justice to Islamic terrorists, you can't resist printing a phoney report like this and getting people killed.

This writer should be tarred and feathered. Maybe in Afghanistan.

16 posted on 05/14/2005 5:06:59 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Cornpone


The Koran burned with "gay" flag & copies of Roe v. Wade

Linky
17 posted on 05/14/2005 5:08:54 PM PDT by Crazieman (If Con is the opposite of Pro, what is the opposite of Progress?)
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To: Cornpone
You now, just thinking here, if this incident caused 12 deaths then the Department of Justice should investigate Newsweek and force them to give the source. Printing an unproven allegation has caused 12 deaths and now we have these extremists out there who will have another excuse to murder Americans. If the DOJ proves that the author made the story up (which has happened) then he should be jailed.
18 posted on 05/14/2005 5:09:05 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Americanexpat

After thinking about it I have another idea. Having studied organizations like CAIR, MAS, ISNA and the history of the Muslim Brotherhood and how it infiltrated all the professional associations in Egypt as a prelude to its attempt to overthrow the government, I wouldn't be surprised if the responsible journalists for this story were Islamist stooges or moles. It would be a brilliant strategy to penetrate our MSM and use them as a vehicle to discredit America and it would add legitimacy to all the lies. That is, if our MSM was legitimate. The only thing that can guard against that kind of subversive information attack against us is responsible journalism. I think we have already lost that war.



19 posted on 05/14/2005 5:10:33 PM PDT by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Who Dares Wins)
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To: Cornpone
This is sad. Despite the sacrifice of our military in lives, injuries and time and the cost in dollars to America in freeing muslims from fascism, the true face of islam rears it's ugly head.

We have two options. We can civilize these people, which is what we have been trying to do, or we can kill them. Unfortunately, their own hatred, bigotry and tribalism may make the former impossible and the latter unavoidable.
20 posted on 05/14/2005 5:11:09 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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