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Hillary vs. Allen [Robert Novak]
townhall.com ^ | May 14, 2005 | Robert Novak

Posted on 05/14/2005 11:12:38 AM PDT by aculeus

WASHINGTON -- Members of the inner circle of high-ranking House Republicans privately agree that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York is an absolute lock for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination and will not be easy to defeat in the general election.

The same lawmakers believe the Republican race to oppose Clinton is wide open but regard Sen. George Allen of Virginia as having the edge over Sen. Bill Frist of Tennessee. The consensus among them is that Allen is a better candidate than Frist and will the advantage over him in GOP primaries. The House members see little or no prospect for former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Sen. John McCain of Arizona or Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

The Clinton-vs.-Allen forecast by the leading House members duplicates the National Journal's poll of insiders from both parties.

LOTT'S DEAL

Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott's efforts to broker a compromise on judicial confirmations angered Majority Leader Bill Frist, but in fact he never was close to completing a deal with moderate Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson.

Lott was trying to show that every effort had been made to negotiate a settlement before Republicans attempted to use the "nuclear option" (a phrase coined by Lott) to force a majority vote on judicial confirmations. Nelson, who is up for re-election next year in conservative Nebraska, wants to separate himself from other Democrats.

Internal Senate Republican politics are at stake. With Frist not seeking re-election in 2006, Senate Majority Whip Mitch McConnell is heavily favored to succeed him as majority leader. However, Lott is a long shot to seek and regain his old leadership position.

AMBASSADOR TO EU

Veteran Washington lawyer and Republican activist C. Boyden Gray recently sat down with Howard Kohr, executive director of American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), in an effort to counteract Jewish opposition to Gray as U.S. ambassador to the European Union.

Neo-conservatives inside the administration have advised President Bush that Gray would be a poor selection to go to Brussels. According to sources close to the situation, White House national security aide Elliott Abrams has opposed Gray in writing.

Gray was White House counsel in the first George Bush administration and has led citizens' efforts for the confirmation of George W. Bush's judicial nominations.

CAMPAIGN FINANCE POLITICS

Diminishing Democratic support for efforts to curb unregulated campaign spending by "527" organizations are reflected in the withdrawal by co-sponsors of the bill that would close the loophole in the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform act.

Of the eight original Democratic co-sponsors of the loophole closer, four have withdrawn: Reps. Timothy Bishop and Michael McNulty of New York and Reps. Xavier Becerra and Barbara Lee of California. In a House floor statement, Becerra expressed a "growing discomfort" that the bill "may actually limit voices too dramatically without offering other alternatives." Three Republicans are co-sponsors.

Of more than $600 million in 2004 unregulated 527 contributions, a big majority of the money -- roughly two-to-one -- was spent supporting John Kerry and other Democratic candidates and trying to boost Democratic voter turnout.

CORRECTING BILL THOMAS

After the U.S. Capitol was evacuated last Wednesday, a Capitol police officer shouted, "Stay there!" to a portly lawmaker who was prematurely trying to return from a holding area to the abandoned building. It was Rep. Bill Thomas of California, the powerful chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee.

The policeman's admonition caused consternation among lawmakers who witnessed it, because nobody speaks harshly to the hot-tempered, imperious Thomas. In this case, however, Thomas just smiled and followed directions.

Police gave Speaker Dennis Hastert a specially guided path out of the Capitol, but other House members -- including Thomas -- were on their own.

©2005 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
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To: aculeus
WASHINGTON -- Members of the inner circle of high-ranking House Republicans privately agree that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York is an absolute lock for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination and will not be easy to defeat in the general election.

LOL! You should work for an exit polling service Novak! Run Hillary Run!

101 posted on 05/15/2005 5:28:45 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: aculeus
I'd love to see another "George" in the White House.

George Washington, George Bush, George Allen......has a nice ring to it, eh what?

Leni

102 posted on 05/15/2005 5:31:09 AM PDT by MinuteGal ("The Marines keep coming. We are shooting, but the Marines won't stop !" (Fallujah Terrorists)
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To: tame
I am still going through all the videos,, but, my eyes are starting to fail me at this time ( my eyes are get blurry if I read to long or watch a video to long close up ) so, I have to give my eyes a rest now.
If anyone can come up with the famed ( George Allen rebuking stern look on Babs Boxer ) look from George Allen, please leave a video clip of it, or the time mark on the video and what day and time was the hearing.
Take care now, I need to rest now.
103 posted on 05/15/2005 5:39:20 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: MinuteGal
George Washington, George Bush, George Allen......has a nice ring to it, eh what?

hey, you got a point there :o)

104 posted on 05/15/2005 5:43:48 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Take care now, I need to rest now.

Take care of those eyes :o)

105 posted on 05/15/2005 5:44:40 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: monkeywrench; tame

George ALlen is opposed to Bush's Amnesty Program:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1395383/posts

Last Monday or Tuesday I heard George Allen talking on the John And Ken Show in Los Angeles.

Since Allen is considered by many to be the Conservative front runner for the Presidency in 2008, I thought I would type here what I heard Allen's positions were regarding Illegal Immigration so people in the future can use it to determine whether they want to vote for him in the primaries.

What Allen Said was that it was "ridiculous" that the we are "shaking down" old ladys and children at ports and airports but we are continuing to leave the borders wide open.

Allen also said it was "nonsense" that we are securing Iraq and Afghanistan's borders but doing nothing about our Southern Border.

He said that he "opposed" President Bush's Guest Worker program and that Allen was proud he voted against the AgJobs Amnesty bill in the Senate recently.

Furthermore Allen is not a cosponsor of ANY of the dozen or so Amnesty bills floating around the Senate like the "Dream Act" and such.

Allen also said he was one of the few Senators to meet with the Minutemen project organizers and that he "supported" them and understood them.

John and Ken did not ask Allen whether he supports putting troops on the border, but Allen did sound pretty conservative on every Illegal Alien question they asked the Senator.

PS:

I am NOT saying I agree or disagree with Allen's statements, I am merely listing them for people's future political reference.


106 posted on 05/15/2005 11:01:24 AM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: tame
It only happens when I read to long.
I better get a set of glasses.
108 posted on 05/15/2005 1:17:36 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Dan from Michigan

BTTT


109 posted on 05/15/2005 1:23:23 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: DM1
years of that witch destroying this country?

Won't be much left after 8 yrs of a GOP congress

110 posted on 05/15/2005 1:30:33 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: GOPGuide
He said that he "opposed" President Bush's Guest Worker program and that Allen was proud he voted against the AgJobs Amnesty bill in the Senate recently.

The words President Allen are sounding better and better :o)

111 posted on 05/15/2005 5:25:07 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
What I mean is that, historically speaking, most of our Presidents have been former Governors.

W: Governor
Bill Clinton: Governor
George H.W. Bush: CIA Director, Ambassador, Congressman
Reagan: Governor
Carter: Governor
Ford: VP
Nixon: VP, Congressman
LBJ: VP
JFK: Senator?
Ike: General
HST: VP
FDR: ?
Hoover: Secretary of Commerce

Hoover was the only President who wasn't a member of congress, VP or General before becoming President.

112 posted on 05/15/2005 5:40:47 PM PDT by Koblenz (Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
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To: dennisw
She may claim it's a health problem, but THIS IS THE REAL REASON.
113 posted on 05/15/2005 5:43:13 PM PDT by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
I understand your point, but it is a very small sample:

2004XPres. Bush 43 beats Sen. Kerry
2000 Gov. Bush beats VP Gore
1996XPres. Clinton beats Sen. Dole
1992 Gov. Clinton beats Pres. Bush 41
1988 VP Bush beats Gov. Dukakis
1984 Pres. Reagan beats former VP Mondale
1980 Former Gov. Reagan beats Pres. Carter
1976 Gov. Carter beats Pres. Ford
1972XPres. Nixon beats Sen. McGovern
1968 Former VP Nixon beats VP Humphrey
1964XPres. Johnson beats Sen. Goldwater
1960XSen. Kennedy beats VP Nixon


Since 1960, five elections included a Senator as candidate (I am not including VPs who had been Senators for obvious reasons). In four of those elections, the opponent was an INCUMBENT PRESIDENT! In fact, Senators are 1 for 1 over the last 45 years against anybody but an incumbent president. Also note that in three of those four races, candidates considered extreme based on ideology or voting record (Goldwater, McGovern and Kerry) were the party standard-bearer. Sometimes the best talent does not choose to run against an incumbent. I'd like to think there were better Republicans than Dole in 1996.

With both executive and federal legislative experience, Sen./Gov. Allen would have the most pertinent experience of anybody except maybe a vice president. (Or "co-"president in Hillary's!! case)

He is not a RINO, and he will have my vote and effort in 2008.
114 posted on 05/15/2005 6:42:20 PM PDT by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: sittnick
He is not a RINO, and he will have my vote and effort in 2008.

DITTO!

115 posted on 05/15/2005 11:16:01 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

WV Rebel wrote: The only problem as I see it is that Senators, even if they're former Governors, don't have a history of winning Presidential elections.

Actually, there are no examples of Senators who are former governors who have been a party's nominee for President. At least not in well over a century.


116 posted on 05/16/2005 9:22:39 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders (Re-elect President George Allen in 2012)
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To: kittymyrib

Actually, George Allen's 1993 gubernatorial race was against a strong female Democrat Attorney General who had a 30 point lead over him earlier in the year before he trounced her by double-digits. He can do the same to Hillary without coming across like Lazio. If some MSM weenie started screaming about it, he'd just tell them to lighten up and do so on camera.


117 posted on 05/16/2005 9:27:52 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders (Re-elect President George Allen in 2012)
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To: R. Scott

Some aspiring artist / cartoonist should do a piece with George Allen riding an elephant in a cowboy hat with a rifle saying, "We're going RINO huntin'!" and have a bunch of rhinos with McCain, Hagel, Pataki, Giuliani written on them scurrying away from Allen.


118 posted on 05/16/2005 9:33:41 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders (Re-elect President George Allen in 2012)
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To: aculeus
Bring on Hilarycare Koresh Clinton! She has all the votes she's going to get right now since everyone knows who and what she is. She will fail 46-53%.

Pray for W and Our Troops

119 posted on 05/16/2005 9:33:54 AM PDT by bray (Pray for Iraq's Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: aculeus
Bring on Hilarycare Koresh Clinton! She has all the votes she's going to get right now since everyone knows who and what she is. She will fail 46-53%.

Pray for W and Our Troops

120 posted on 05/16/2005 9:34:00 AM PDT by bray (Pray for Iraq's Freedom from Mohammad)
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