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Hillary vs. Allen [Robert Novak]
townhall.com ^ | May 14, 2005 | Robert Novak

Posted on 05/14/2005 11:12:38 AM PDT by aculeus

WASHINGTON -- Members of the inner circle of high-ranking House Republicans privately agree that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York is an absolute lock for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination and will not be easy to defeat in the general election.

The same lawmakers believe the Republican race to oppose Clinton is wide open but regard Sen. George Allen of Virginia as having the edge over Sen. Bill Frist of Tennessee. The consensus among them is that Allen is a better candidate than Frist and will the advantage over him in GOP primaries. The House members see little or no prospect for former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Sen. John McCain of Arizona or Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

The Clinton-vs.-Allen forecast by the leading House members duplicates the National Journal's poll of insiders from both parties.

LOTT'S DEAL

Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott's efforts to broker a compromise on judicial confirmations angered Majority Leader Bill Frist, but in fact he never was close to completing a deal with moderate Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson.

Lott was trying to show that every effort had been made to negotiate a settlement before Republicans attempted to use the "nuclear option" (a phrase coined by Lott) to force a majority vote on judicial confirmations. Nelson, who is up for re-election next year in conservative Nebraska, wants to separate himself from other Democrats.

Internal Senate Republican politics are at stake. With Frist not seeking re-election in 2006, Senate Majority Whip Mitch McConnell is heavily favored to succeed him as majority leader. However, Lott is a long shot to seek and regain his old leadership position.

AMBASSADOR TO EU

Veteran Washington lawyer and Republican activist C. Boyden Gray recently sat down with Howard Kohr, executive director of American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), in an effort to counteract Jewish opposition to Gray as U.S. ambassador to the European Union.

Neo-conservatives inside the administration have advised President Bush that Gray would be a poor selection to go to Brussels. According to sources close to the situation, White House national security aide Elliott Abrams has opposed Gray in writing.

Gray was White House counsel in the first George Bush administration and has led citizens' efforts for the confirmation of George W. Bush's judicial nominations.

CAMPAIGN FINANCE POLITICS

Diminishing Democratic support for efforts to curb unregulated campaign spending by "527" organizations are reflected in the withdrawal by co-sponsors of the bill that would close the loophole in the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform act.

Of the eight original Democratic co-sponsors of the loophole closer, four have withdrawn: Reps. Timothy Bishop and Michael McNulty of New York and Reps. Xavier Becerra and Barbara Lee of California. In a House floor statement, Becerra expressed a "growing discomfort" that the bill "may actually limit voices too dramatically without offering other alternatives." Three Republicans are co-sponsors.

Of more than $600 million in 2004 unregulated 527 contributions, a big majority of the money -- roughly two-to-one -- was spent supporting John Kerry and other Democratic candidates and trying to boost Democratic voter turnout.

CORRECTING BILL THOMAS

After the U.S. Capitol was evacuated last Wednesday, a Capitol police officer shouted, "Stay there!" to a portly lawmaker who was prematurely trying to return from a holding area to the abandoned building. It was Rep. Bill Thomas of California, the powerful chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee.

The policeman's admonition caused consternation among lawmakers who witnessed it, because nobody speaks harshly to the hot-tempered, imperious Thomas. In this case, however, Thomas just smiled and followed directions.

Police gave Speaker Dennis Hastert a specially guided path out of the Capitol, but other House members -- including Thomas -- were on their own.

©2005 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

townhall.com


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
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1 posted on 05/14/2005 11:12:38 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

...The House members see little or no prospect for former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Sen. John McCain of Arizona or Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney...

Let us pray they are right.

No Rinos need apply.


2 posted on 05/14/2005 11:15:48 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I leave reason and good manners to those that have them.)
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To: aculeus

Good Grief i pray we are not stuck with Hillary in 08 can you picture 4 - 8 years of that witch destroying this country?


3 posted on 05/14/2005 11:19:08 AM PDT by DM1
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Let us pray they are right.

Amen

4 posted on 05/14/2005 11:19:20 AM PDT by CheezyD
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To: DM1

...can you picture 4 - 8 years of that witch destroying this country?...

No, but I can picture CWII starting on her watch.


5 posted on 05/14/2005 11:21:03 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I leave reason and good manners to those that have them.)
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To: CheezyD

The Clinton-vs.-Allen forecast by the leading House members duplicates the National Journal's poll of insiders from both parties.

I'm in Allen's corner already.


6 posted on 05/14/2005 11:21:52 AM PDT by griswold3
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To: aculeus

George Allen all the way. George is a lucky name! My 70% prediction is a health problem will take Hillary out of the 2008 race.


7 posted on 05/14/2005 11:25:18 AM PDT by dennisw (the country music station plays soft but there’s nothing, really nothing to turn off)
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To: aculeus
Of course Hillary! will be a lock for the RAT nomination in '08. No matter which way I view this, she still does not scare me in the least.

If this were '92 or '96, maybe that would be different. But the landscape has changed significantly and will cotinue to change by the time November of '08 comes around.

This Republican wants Hillary! for the '08 RAT ticket!


8 posted on 05/14/2005 11:25:28 AM PDT by rdb3 (One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
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To: aculeus

I will enthusiastically pull the lever for Allen, but stay home if McLame or Guliani get the nom. I have a feeling some "moderate" will run third party and siphon votes away from the GOP, thereby ushering Hitlery into office. The little bolsheviks like to b*tch about Nader, but he is nothing compared to Perot in that sense.


9 posted on 05/14/2005 11:26:16 AM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (How soon will the U.S.A. be U.S.S.A.?)
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To: aculeus
Members of the inner circle of high-ranking House Republicans privately agree that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York is an absolute lock for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination and will not be easy to defeat in the general election.

Republicans are cowards.
10 posted on 05/14/2005 11:27:46 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: rdb3

Bring on Hillary.
I'd rather face her than Mark Warner or Bill Richardson.


11 posted on 05/14/2005 11:32:59 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Don't blame me, I voted for Rocky)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Right. Bring her on, please! The polarizing effect is invaluable.


12 posted on 05/14/2005 11:34:31 AM PDT by rdb3 (One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
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To: aculeus
The consensus among them is that Allen is a better candidate than Frist and will have the advantage over him in GOP primaries.

George Allen is a Cowboy to Frist's milquetoast manner - no comparison! I'd put an 'Allen in 2008' bumper sticker on my vehicle today.

13 posted on 05/14/2005 11:35:59 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Common sense is not so common)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
...but stay home if McLame or Guliani get the nom.

There's always the option of voting for a third choice. Even if you don't like any of the third parties listed, you can still write someone in. It would send a more effective message than staying home.

14 posted on 05/14/2005 11:38:16 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: dennisw
George Allen all the way. George is a lucky name! My 70% prediction is a health problem will take Hillary out of the 2008 race.

The only health problem that would keep Hillary from clawing and scratching her way into power is death.

15 posted on 05/14/2005 11:43:17 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: aculeus
"Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York is an absolute lock for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination and will not be easy to defeat in the general election."

If Hillary makes the GOP turn scared, they are not very proud to run on their record.

16 posted on 05/14/2005 11:47:27 AM PDT by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: Always Right

...The only health problem that would keep Hillary from clawing and scratching her way into power is death...

LOL, and then only if it's death by a stake through her heart and decapitation.


17 posted on 05/14/2005 11:49:55 AM PDT by planekT (Go DeLay, Go!)
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To: rdb3; Dan from Michigan
Right. Bring her on, please! The polarizing effect is invaluable.

I agree. I can't see her turning any red states blue.

18 posted on 05/14/2005 11:51:28 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (you can be whoever you want to be on the Internet)
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To: rdb3

And she has more skeletons in her closet than Arlington has in the ground : )


19 posted on 05/14/2005 12:00:03 PM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: dubyaismypresident
I can't see her turning any red states blue

Your right,and I do see her turning a few blue states red.

20 posted on 05/14/2005 12:01:55 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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