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Mexico furious at tough US law on migrants
Financial Times ^ | May 13 2005 | John Authers in Mexico City and Edward Alden in Washington

Posted on 05/13/2005 2:29:12 PM PDT by seastay

Mexico has reacted furiously to a bill signed into law by the US this week that would fund a border wall and prevent illegal Mexican migrants from obtaining US driving licences.

President Vicente Fox said he would lodge a diplomatic complaint, and was considering complaints to multilateral bodies if Mexico could not unable to resolve the problem bilaterally.

In the US, leaders of the Mexican community threatened to strike to send a message to US employers that they could not survive without cheap Mexican labour.

Santiago Creel, Mexico's interior secretary, said the “Real ID” law was “negative, inconvenient, and obstructionist”.

“Building walls doesn't help anyone build a good neighbourhood,” he said. “Taking away the possibility of obtaining driving licences for people who are working in legal jobs, who pay their taxes there, who send remittances home here, seems to us to be an extreme measure, particularly given the new understanding that we thought we had after the re-election of President Bush.”

Andrés Manuel López Obrador, mayor of Mexico City, supported Mr Fox's stance. He said the problem of growing immigration could be “resolved by encouraging development in Mexico and Central America, not by building walls and using the border control”.

Since 2002, Mexico has adopted a popular policy of issuing undocumented labourers with consular identity cards, which are accepted as proof of identity by many US states for issuing driving licences, and for opening bank accounts. Under the new law, this would no longer be possible. The immigration provisions approved by Congress were attached by House Republicans to a bill that will provide more than $80bn for the war in Iraq this year, giving lawmakers little choice but to support it.

The White House, which at first opposed the new restrictions, supported them when it became clear they would pass Congress in spite of administration opposition.

President George W. Bush has said he wants to deal with illegal immigration by creating a temporary guest worker programme. But many Republicans are using the anxiety about terrorism to push for a crackdown on illegal immigrants.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; creel; creelisanass; driverslicense; gangs; healthcare; immigrantlist; nofreebies; protectourvote; toobad; vicenteisapuss; voterfraud
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To: seastay
[ The White House, which at first opposed the new restrictions, supported them when it became clear they would pass Congress in spite of administration opposition. ]

Strange move by the republican RINO complicit conservative confused democrat White House
What the heck is this White House.?. (scratching head)..

121 posted on 05/13/2005 11:27:29 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: seastay

They should strike for sure. Leave the country, strike and show us a big lesson.
Gives us time to make a nice wall in the meantime as well.


122 posted on 05/14/2005 12:15:19 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: everyone

"Mexico furious at tough U.S. law on migrants," huh?

Well, I have news for our friends south of the border:
"Tough U.S. citizens furious at Mexico."


123 posted on 05/14/2005 12:17:25 AM PDT by California Patriot
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¡JA JA!

124 posted on 05/14/2005 12:21:06 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod ( I'm going to open Cobra Kai dojos all over this valley!)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Thanks for the comments.

You know, I've been concerned about this issue since about 1985. I could see where we were headed. Twenty years and perhaps 30 million Mexican nationals later, I'm just tired of watching a situation that grows worse by the day.

I'm also tired of of leaders who are neutering the voters in this nation, while they carry out plans to hobble them completely by setting up multi-national boards to rule them. These boards will not be made up of people we vote for. They won't even be made up by people who give a damn about the U.S. at all. In truth, they will be made up by the worst the U.S., Mexico and Canada have to offer. All too soon, even they will look moderate when the representatives of all the rest of the American states join in.

I came to this forum when I considered it to be conservative. I came to it when I watched it hold the line against the likes of Bill Clinton and his co-conspirators. I watched as guests lauded Reagan and our forefathers. I watched as they championed the U.S. Constitution and our sovereignty. I was nourished by the support of law and order.

When people I had protested with began to abandon these things, I stood up against it. For a long time I did my best to ignore them thinking they would come to understand a betrayal of the U.S. Constitution and the very sovereignty that assured us of self-determination, were terrible things to parcel off.

And then the Minuteman Project brought things to a head.

I'm not that old, but perhaps I am too old for some things. I don't have energy to travel to Washington, D.C. to run my mouth against the Supreme Court Justices, only to come back to California and say that illegal immigration doesn't bother me. I just can't slam the feds for one grose violation, then sign on to turning the U.S. into a satelite state of Mexico.

I don't have the energy to argue with people who trash projects that we not only should have joined, but if we didn't have our heads firmly implanted, we would have started ourselves five or more years ago.

Perhaps I'm wrong on this issue. If so, I don't belong where true conservatives thrive. If I am right, I don't belong where true conservatives are reported to thrive, but couldn't hit the broadside of bedrock issues with a two by four.

The abandonment of the illegal immigration issue by people I respect has been a very bitter pill to swallow. I do not believe that globalism and erased borders is what our Founding Fathers had in mind. I do not believe that Presidents who side with foreign governments against this nation's sovereignty are worthy of my support and I'm tired of watching folks who idolize one that does.

It's fairly obvious my views haven't moved much real-estate when it comes to this issue. Even the Minuteman Project wich proved it's point beyond a shadow of a doubt, has been marginalized by most who should have been thanking them profusely.

Yes, there are a few like you who get it. I'm just not convinced there's a damned thing we can do any longer. Some watered down bills will be passed that will facilitate citizenship for illegal aliens already here, and the borders will remain wide open.

The border patrol in Arizona has been ordered to stand down so the Minuteman Project's true success will be invisible to most Americans.

The sad thing is, you could hear crickets chirping at 1000 paces, when all but a few here ignore the dismemberment of this world's last hope.

As you can tell, I am in desparate need of a time out. It is self imposed. I do not know how long it will last.

All the best to you and a number of others I support here. There were days when coming on this forum began to feel more like punching myself in the face, than discussing issues with other conservatives.


125 posted on 05/14/2005 2:39:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: seastay

"who send remittances home here"

translation....we want the American dollars!!!!!


126 posted on 05/14/2005 2:41:44 AM PDT by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: janetgreen

I suspect he has already called Fox and apologized profusely.


127 posted on 05/14/2005 5:02:21 AM PDT by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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To: seastay

Fox will take his complaints to the OAS and the UN, and then he'll threaten to raise the price of oil. We really need to use an alternative fuel. (You know the govt. or GM or Ford has something cheap and easy to produce squirreled away in the archives.)The screams of oil producing nations would be heard all the way to the moon.


128 posted on 05/14/2005 5:13:09 AM PDT by hershey
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To: seastay

Fox can't run his own country so he'll run ours?


129 posted on 05/14/2005 5:20:25 AM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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To: Smartass

When they get Aztlan in toto, they'll look around, notice that they can't make anything work because they don't know how and furthermore, have no intention of learning how, and then they'll sue the pants off the United States for putting them in this position. Does this picture bring to mind what Palestine will be like when the Israeli's move out? It should. We'll be paying for Palestine ad infinitum, we'll be paying for Aztlan, too.


130 posted on 05/14/2005 5:21:59 AM PDT by hershey
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To: dmanLA

This is one more step toward One Hemisphere/Free Trade block, ala Europe, where members move freely around the continent irregardless of borders. This is exactly where Bush and Fox are going, except that Fox sees Mexico swallowing up the US. Small difference, but what the heck. Bush needs to be up front and honest with the American public about this. He needs to list the pros and cons of such a policy, what would happen if we walled off the rest of the hemisphere, didn't spread the largesse in terms of jobs, money, aid, etc.. In this age of portable nukes, ebola, and the like, terrorism, crackpots, well, you get the picture. We're be a target for hatred no matter what.


131 posted on 05/14/2005 5:28:33 AM PDT by hershey
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To: A CA Guy

If they went on strike, maybe kids would be able to find summer jobs. Not to mention anyone else out of work.


132 posted on 05/14/2005 5:29:28 AM PDT by hershey
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To: DoughtyOne

Plant your garden and tend your tomatoes and roses. Breathe deeply, take long walks, and enjoy every minute of every day. Keep well, friend.


133 posted on 05/14/2005 5:31:29 AM PDT by hershey
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To: seastay

Hey, President Vicente Fox, EAT SH&T A-HOLE.


134 posted on 05/14/2005 5:33:34 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline is currently being blocked by Congressional filibuster for being to harsh.)
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To: seastay

The borders must be secured. Keep e-mailing the President and let him know how you feel. Maybe eventually he'll see the light. Illegal immigration will tarnish his Presidency if he doesn't take control.


135 posted on 05/14/2005 5:35:07 AM PDT by KenmcG414
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To: seastay
“Building walls doesn't help anyone build a good neighbourhood,”

What a stupid statement. This twit doesn't have a clue.

Fox's sock puppet, George Bush, will find a way around it so he can continue to bring in all of his cousins and uncles from "the old country".
136 posted on 05/14/2005 6:25:32 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: ikka
I am still against the Real ID Act in terms of driver's licenses even though I do favor other parts of it such as the fence. It was also passed very sleazily and the Senate should have voted against the Appropriations bill that it rode on to force more discussion and debate on it.

I am glad the mandate for states to sign the Driver License Agreement was removed but it somewhat still dictates how states keep motor vehicle records such as points, suspension. It depends on how the DHS writes the regulations.
137 posted on 05/14/2005 6:32:14 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Happy2BMe
I looked at the picture on the wall above Arafat and it looks like Ayatollah Khomeini.
138 posted on 05/14/2005 6:34:47 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: CORedneck

It is indeed Khomeini. With Arafat as the honored guest.


139 posted on 05/14/2005 6:42:22 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: DoughtyOne

bttt!


140 posted on 05/14/2005 7:24:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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