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Officials Weighed Shooting at Errant Plane
AP (via Drudge) ^ | May 12, 2005 9:33 PM (ET) | LARA JAKES JORDAN

Posted on 05/13/2005 12:25:41 AM PDT by andie74

WASHINGTON (AP) - As a wayward Cessna flew deep in restricted airspace, national security officials were on the phone discussing whether to implement the last line of defense: shooting it down.

The single-engine Cessna that prompted a frenzied evacuation of the White House, Capitol and Supreme Court on Wednesday veered away from downtown landmarks just before that decision needed to be made.

But it was a close call.

One senior Bush administration counterterrorism official said it was "a real finger-biting period because they came very close to ordering a shot against a general aircraft."

"How many more seconds away or minutes - it was within a very small window where there would have been the decision," said the official, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

Administration officials spent Thursday reviewing the bizarre series of events involving the small plane, which was carrying a pilot and a student pilot from Pennsylvania to an air show in North Carolina. It entered restricted airspace and then continued flying toward highly sensitive areas, prompting evacuations of tens of thousands of people as military aircraft scrambled to intercept it.

Hundreds of planes have encroached on the airspace since the Sept. 11 attacks, but none is believed to have gone so far - within three miles of the White House.

Lt. Col. Tim Lehmann, one of two F-16 fighter pilots who tracked the Cessna, said he was prepared to use deadly force. He said he realized how serious the situation became when he looked at the Cessna and saw the Washington Monument in the background.

"We may have been on the cusp of some kind of engagement," Lehmann said. "I don't know how close we came."

A response system put in place after the attacks, coordinated in part by the Homeland Security Department's classified operations center, alerted other areas of the federal government to the incoming plane. Security forces at individual facilities and agencies decided on a case-by-case basis whether to evacuate or raise their alert level.

Alert levels at the White House and the Capitol were raised to their highest level - red - at the height of the frenzy.

President Bush, biking at the Patuxent Wildlife Research Center in Beltsville, Md., was unaware of the midday scare as it was occurring. His security detail knew of the raised threat level but did not tell him.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said that a review of how the situation was handled was being conducted. But he said Bush was not upset that he was not filled in.

"The president has a great amount of trust in his security detail," McClellan said. "If there are any improvements that need to be made, they will be made."

Immediately after the Cessna entered the restricted 30-mile radius Air Defense Identification Zone at 11:28 a.m. EDT, authorities activated the Domestic Events Network to share information as they tracked the plane. The network, a conference call of officials from the Homeland Security Department, Customs and Border Protection, the Pentagon, the Federal Aviation Administration and a handful of other agencies, lasted until the Cessna landed just over an hour later.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld was apprised of the situation as it unfolded. He is among a small handful of top Pentagon officials who can order a shootdown. The president also may give such an order.

Pentagon officials sought to play down the incident, saying the small plane was not seen as a serious threat and did not come close to being shot down. Homeland Security spokesman Brian Roehrkasse declined to comment on how close it was.

Brian Jenkins, counterterrorism analyst for the RAND Corp. think tank, agreed the threat from the Cessna was limited.

"The quantity of explosives that you can pack in a little Cessna is not the quantity of explosives you see placed in these big truck bombs," Jenkins said. "In terms of explosives, it probably could not do that much damage."

However, government officials also had to consider the possibility it was carrying chemical or biological weapons. A relatively small amount of either could have devastating effects.

Customs officials scrambled a Black Hawk helicopter and a Cessna Citation jet at 11:47 a.m. to intercept the plane and were joined a few minutes later by two Air National Guard F-16 fighter jets.

The Cessna pilot appeared confused by the aircraft escort and did not respond to repeated signals ordering the plane to turn away. The F-16s fired four warning flares before the Cessna finally veered west and away from the secure zone. They landed safely at an airport in Frederick, Md.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aircraft; airplane; bush43; evacuation; homelandsecurity; noflyzone; security; shootdown; threatairplane; whitehouse
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

And who does it land on??


21 posted on 05/13/2005 1:25:57 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: andie74

all members of Congress should be required to wear running shoes to work .....
high heels , give me a break.


22 posted on 05/13/2005 1:26:02 AM PDT by injin
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45

Three radio warnings, then *maybe* a flyby by a jet to see what's going on (if there's time). If no flyby, just light up his world. "Sorry about your luck, buddy."


23 posted on 05/13/2005 1:27:59 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: andie74
And something else that I thought of today. Could the Cessna have been a diversion to something else that was being planned on the ground?

That or a dry run to probe our response.

24 posted on 05/13/2005 1:29:52 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: andie74
A serious problem is if you shoot the airplane out of the sky, you will have a flaming wreckage falling into the Wash. D.C. metro area. There is a very good chance of killing people on the ground. It could fall onto a house, cars in traffic, people walking on a sidewalk etc.

Of course, the American royalty ruling over us doesn't care about the little folks who must die to protect royalty but it makes for some very ugly public relations.

The little people might correctly conclude they are all expendable to protect the elites of Washington D.C.

25 posted on 05/13/2005 1:30:58 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: injin

It was the Nancy Pelosi comparison to Cinderella that nauseated me.


26 posted on 05/13/2005 1:33:56 AM PDT by andie74 (Socializing children at home since 2003)
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To: Fenris6

IMO part of the decisionmaking on this would be the damage and injury caused by falling Cessna debris. Three miles radius from the WH is densely populated urban and semi-urban territory.


27 posted on 05/13/2005 1:34:23 AM PDT by angkor
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

As opposed to someone detonating a nuke in an airplane over DC and wiping out things like the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and other items of historic significance to all mankind? Sorry, but I'm willing to take that chance, and I'm not this "royalty" of which you speak.

Not shooting the thing down could mean that A NUCLEAR DETONATION AND RESULTING SHOCKWAVE hits them. Chance killing a few to save the many? Any time.


28 posted on 05/13/2005 1:35:02 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: quietolong

quietolong wrote:
And who does it land on??

--> Maybe a trampoline or some electric lines? :)


29 posted on 05/13/2005 1:45:55 AM PDT by 1FASTGLOCK45 (FreeRepublic: More fun than watching Dem'Rats drown like Turkeys in the rain! ! !)
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To: 1FASTGLOCK45; quietolong

Or a canopy?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1401804/posts

OK, I am getting loopy. G'nite or good morning, whichever you prefer!


30 posted on 05/13/2005 1:55:36 AM PDT by andie74 (Socializing children at home since 2003)
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To: ARCADIA
If and when the terrorists decide on such an adventure, it will not be with a C-150. This affair has shown that anyone with the right equipment can penetrate nearly at will.
31 posted on 05/13/2005 2:08:11 AM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: Spktyr
....as opposed to someone detonating a nuke in an airplane over DC..

LOL! Yeah, the ol' nuke in the Cessna 150 trick, we missed it by THAT much. Hey Spktyr, take a break from the Tom Clancy novels. Maybe ten minutes breathing into a paper bag might help?

32 posted on 05/13/2005 2:13:18 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: konaice
You fly under or over the plane without the afterburners on. Once you overtake the plane you drop down or rise up in front of the small plane and hit the afterburners. The pilot of the small plane wouldn't know what hit him.
33 posted on 05/13/2005 2:15:36 AM PDT by skimask (I only fly on planes with two right wings)
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To: skimask

Sigh... See my #6 above...


34 posted on 05/13/2005 2:20:07 AM PDT by konaice
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To: andie74
It was two pilots, one was a student and the other was a person who trains pilots.
FAA said nothing was going to happen to either pilot.
They could rent an other plane and do the same thing again.
The student should get his learners permit burned and the instructor should have his pilot license removed.
35 posted on 05/13/2005 2:22:55 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." AYN RAND)
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To: skimask
The pilot of the small plane wouldn't know what hit him.

Neither would the fighter pilot when he discovers that following orders doesn't cut it when you drop a 17 year old student pilot on a day care center.

Perhaps a better way would be to set up a 100 mile IFR only flight zone around DC.
36 posted on 05/13/2005 2:26:35 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Ummm...forgive me, but weren't the 9/11 hijackers trained in US flight schools? Doncha think we oughta check them out?


37 posted on 05/13/2005 2:28:21 AM PDT by andie74 (Socializing children at home since 2003)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
The student should get his learners permit burned and the instructor should have his pilot license removed.

The student should be allowed to make mistakes, his instructor is responsible for his performance. But, before we run off on a witch hunt, lets get the facts. For all we know there may have been an equipment failure, or faulty air traffic vector.
38 posted on 05/13/2005 2:31:53 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: andie74
Like...where is this pilot?

Being interviewed by our good friends in Uzbekistan?

39 posted on 05/13/2005 2:35:00 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: andie74
I don't understand your point and yes I knew about the flight schools training the terrorists.
I personally don't think this was just a dumb mistake.
40 posted on 05/13/2005 2:40:03 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." AYN RAND)
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