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U.S. weighs rules for any North Korean missile strike(how to shoot down NK missiles)
Swiss Info ^ | 05/12/05 | Reuters

Posted on 05/11/2005 7:02:17 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Thursday 12.05.2005, CET 03:52

May 12, 2005 1:05 AM

U.S. weighs rules for any North Korean missile strike

please read in lead paragraph ...inbound North Korean missile... instead of ...inbound North Korean president... .

A corrected story follows.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Defense Department is weighing whether a decision to shoot down any suspected inbound North Korean missile should go all the way to the president, a top general told Congress on Wednesday.

Marine Gen. James Cartwright, commander of the Strategic Command that coordinates U.S. missile defense operations, said the authorization would ideally come from the president and the secretary of defense, but there might not be time enough.

"As you can imagine, getting the president, the secretary, the regional combat commander into a conversation and a conference in a three to four-minute time frame is going to be challenging," Cartwright told the Senate Appropriations subcommittee on defense. "So what are the rules that we lay down?

"We are working very hard with the secretary to lay down those rules and understand the risks associated with those very quick and timely decisions that are going to have to be made ... when we deal with the North Korean threat," he testified.

North Korea, at odds with the United States over its nuclear program, is believed to have the capability to mount a warhead on one of its long-range missiles, Vice Adm. Lowell Jacoby, head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, told Congress last month.

Cartwright said the U.S. missile defense system is designed to "characterize" a threat in its first three to four minutes of flight. This could leave as little as three minutes to decide whether to fire ground-based interceptors if the suspected target were Alaska or Hawaii.

Since October, the multibillion-dollar missile shield of radars, sensors, interceptors and battle management capabilities has been in a "shakedown" or check-out period similar to that used before a warship enters the operational fleet.

The ground-based system's prime contractor is Boeing Co..

Ships equipped with Lockheed Martin Corp. Aegis combat systems also have been patrolling the Sea of Japan to provide long-range surveillance and tracking data to the battle management system.

"Is it phone calls that we make? Do we use the command and control system in the displays to inform the national command authority? How are we going to bring them together?" Cartwright asked.

Last year, when interceptors were lowered into their silos at Fort Greely, Alaska, and Vandenberg Air Force Base, California, the threat was defined as "two to five missiles coming from North Korea," he testified.

Air Force Lt. Gen. Henry Obering, director of the Pentagon's Missile Defense Agency, told the committee that current missile defense fielding activities were a "direct response" to perceived dangers from North Korea and Iran.

While two recent aborted interceptor test flights had been "very disappointing," the Missile Defense Agency remained confident in the system's design, its ability to knock out targets and its "inherent operational ability," Obering said.

Reuters


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: missiledefense; nkorea; northkorea; nuketippedmissile; procedure
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To: Bald Eagle777

BMD (and to a lesser degree, even regular air defense) is a game of "shoot first, ask stupid questions later and sort it out when its on the ground". Anything that slows the time from launch detection and positive identification to weapons-free and engaging the missile is unnecessary and needs to be eliminated.

When dealing with weapons that can kill millions if they detonate, you don't ask questions, you just open fire until you're absolutely certain that the target is destroyed. Then you shoot it a few more times just in case.


21 posted on 05/11/2005 8:25:53 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; devolve; potlatch; ntnychik; Jeff Head; ..
The U.S. Defense Department is weighing whether a decision to shoot down any suspected inbound North Korean missile should go all the way to the president, a top general told Congress on Wednesday.

This is a joke, right? They're going to be hand-wringing and buck-passing while megatons are incoming?

No, they need to fire at anything headed our way, then report the results--not waste a second seeking permission to fire.

Knock it down, then turn the peninsula north of the 38th parallel into a glass parking lot.

22 posted on 05/11/2005 9:17:36 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
No, they need to fire at anything headed our way, then report the results--

You are exactly right!

23 posted on 05/11/2005 9:31:34 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: PhilDragoo; archy; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; SLB

It is alledged that there are 3 million "tubes" pointed at South Korea and 300,000 of em can deliver rounds accurate or not on Seoul in less that 1 minute.....

By tubes I mean Artillery, MLRS, Heavy and Medium Mortars....etc . Anyone know if this is valid ?


24 posted on 05/11/2005 9:39:31 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: PhilDragoo; Squantos
A Cessna 150 was 3 miles from the Whitehouse, causing mass evactuations, and the President didn't find out about the situation until later.

And we are wondering if we should find him in the seconds needed to give a shootdown order on a NK rocket?

25 posted on 05/11/2005 9:45:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Squantos

Who knows how many of those tubes are loaded and operable in 2005? Who knows if the NK C&C is still intact, that is, would generals pass down the nationally suicidal "Gotterdamerung" order if Kim Jong Il decided to go out in a blaze of glory with a mass attack on Seoul?


26 posted on 05/11/2005 9:47:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: PhilDragoo

Politicians, they'll be the death of us yet.


27 posted on 05/11/2005 9:48:01 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Liberal Rule #35 - Never cooperate with conservatives.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

My suggestion shoot it down SHEESH

BTW guys for the American on the board Target going start selling Kim Jong 11 masterpiece Team America in week of April 17 it being advertise right now at my local SO Cal Target store


28 posted on 05/11/2005 10:02:47 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Squantos

It's true per all the intel we have, though the number of tubes or rails that can actually range on Seoul is only about 250,000. More than enough to do the city.


29 posted on 05/11/2005 10:11:28 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Travis McGee

The current word from defectors and intel is that 85-100% of them are still operable. It is apparently a capital offense in the NK Army to let your artillery piece to be inoperable outside of maintenance times.

That, their nuclear and missile programs, and the rest of their army is where all the money they have that Mentally Il doesn't appropriate goes.


30 posted on 05/11/2005 10:14:50 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

I thought I'd read that at some point ......They'll rain a whole lot more hurt than one or two low yeild smokers IMO.

Stay safe !


31 posted on 05/11/2005 10:17:20 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee
I have heard from a friend of a friend that the recent North Korean railroad explosion was caused by a space-based weapon.

John Kerry is very concerned that we will continue development of a nuclear bunker buster thus negating the advantage of North Korea in its extensive use of German tunneling machines.

Actually Kerry should encourage our weapons development: If left unchecked, sooner or later the North Korean tunneling efforts will uncover Kerry's original service records.

32 posted on 05/11/2005 10:17:26 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Now that's just damn funny .... !

Kerry.....theres a name I can forget easily.


33 posted on 05/11/2005 10:26:32 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: PhilDragoo; All

OMGGG rack that LOLOLOL! ROFL

NOW that very funny LOL!


34 posted on 05/11/2005 11:06:00 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Squantos

I don't know if those numbers are accurate, but that is what I have heard as well.


35 posted on 05/12/2005 2:59:14 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: PhilDragoo; TigerLikesRooster
Mark Steyn (click below for entire article):

Take a look at a satellite picture of the peninsula by night: South Korea ablaze in electric light, the North in darkness. In Far East Asia, North Korea’s the hole in the doughnut.


North Korea at Night

36 posted on 05/12/2005 3:21:54 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Rules are simple:

1. Any unanounced lauch which leaves North Korean airspace - immediate destruction.

2. Any announced lauch which, due to trajectory, could pose a threat, immediate destruction.

Where is the problem??


37 posted on 05/12/2005 3:39:52 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Re #37

In that case, useful idiots have nothing else to do.:-)

38 posted on 05/12/2005 3:41:39 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Oh, forgot about that - never mind!

[correction to a previous nutty post]
Of course we need to have Senate Debates, and public discussion regarding exactly when (precise to the microsecond) any incoming North Korean missiles should be rendered harmless. We obviously do not want to make an error which could jeopardize our fine relations with the glorious leader and the people of North Korea.

Therefore I propose a 10 year, multidisciplinary study. representatives of the UN and all major NGO's should be given preferential seating on the various committees.

We must determine the potential impact to maritime flora and fauna in the event of a possible interception over the sea.

Furthermore, environmental impact studies will need to be made to ensure that no plant or animal life on land is endangered. Additionally, we must identify "safe zones of impact" and the necessary reaction times in order to ensure that any interception of an errant missile can in no way endanger an environmentally sensitive area.

Since the potential exists that an errant missile could impact any where within the northern Pacific - representatives of all major and minor Islands must also be involved in the discussions.

The first meeting of the commission should take place in Rio de Janeiro. Additional meetings will be held in Rome, Paris, London, and aboard the Queen Mary II (during a tour of the potentially affected regions).

The costs for this 10 year study will be financed by the US Government. Invoices shall be sent and payments are due monthly. A special UN Account, managed by Kojo Annan, will be established to handle the financial matters of the study.

[/correction to a previous nutty post]
39 posted on 05/12/2005 4:02:36 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: numberonepal

Definitely


40 posted on 05/12/2005 8:11:35 AM PDT by Bald Eagle777 (Property tax is eternal rent. You can never own your own land. Why?)
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