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Texas Freeper Alert: State Senate Debating Pay Roll Tax
e-mail | May 10,2005

Posted on 05/10/2005 8:06:01 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud

Texas Freepers, It looks like we have one last chance to stop the payroll tax issue.

It is time for a Texas Tax Revolt!!!! (Make a phone call. E-Mails will just fall by the wayside)

As you have already heard in the news, the State Senate's version has a payroll tax in it. And unlike the House version, which makes the payroll tax "optional (we all know that just opens the door to make is full time), the Senate version looks to be mandated.

The following e-mail was sent to me, and it reminded me of something that every Texan should be doing. URGING EVERY ONE THEY KNOW TO CALL THEIR STATE SENATOR AND TELL THEM THAT THEY WILL NOT STAND FOR A STATE PAYROLL TAX.

I urge you all to get the word out to everyone you know. Tell the State Senate Republicans that if they are going to act like Democrats, then we'll replace them with Real Republicans in the primaries.

There are plenty who want to run against the current elected. They know, due to the tax push, that they have a chance.

Here is the body of the e-mail that is going around from one group of folks-

RE: Senate version of H.B. 3 (the tax bill) Okay everybody, here's the deal: H.B. 3 (the tax bill) came roaring out of the Senate Finance Committee on Friday afternoon and it is set for Senate debate tomorrow, May 10. It is not an easy document to get, but a quick and dirty reading this morning tells us that the bill: (1) would expand the franchise tax in all the usual ways to bring in every business entity other than a sole proprietorship (not new) (2) would establish the following formula for calculation of the franchise tax net profit + 15% of gross payroll x 4%. (Gross payroll determined according to page 1, line 1 of IRS form 940) UNLESS the constitutional amendment enacting a new statewide property tax is actually adopted by the people. In which case the payroll component would be based on 25% of gross payroll rather than 15%. (3) would increase the motor vehicle sales tax (and the general sales tax) rate from 6.25% to 6.5 % UNLESS the constitutional amendment enacting a new statewide property tax is actually adopted by the people. In which case the rate for both sales taxes would be increased to 6.75%. (4) would establish the presumed value tax. In committee, the votes were: Those FOR H.B. 3(i.e. the ones who voted AGAINST dealers and your employees) Steve Ogden (College Station) Judith Zaffirini (Laredo) Kip Averitt (Waco) Kim Brimer (Arlington) Robert Duncan (Lubbock) Kyle Janek (Houston) Florence Shapiro (Plano) Todd Staples (Palestine/Conroe) Royce West (Dallas) John Whitmire (Houston Tommy Willians (Conroe/Woodlands/Beaumont) Those (heroes) AGAINST H.B. 3 (i.e. the ones who voted FOR dealers and your employees) Gonzalo Barrientos (Austin) Bob Deuell (Greenville) Jane Nelson (Denton) Eliot Shapleigh (El Paso) This is bad. It is bad because it contains the jobs tax component that is simply not good for dealers, your employees, your customers, or for Texas. And remember, this is only the beginning. Once this baby gets on the books, all they have to do is ramp up the jobs tax rate any time they "need" more $$$. SO, for those of you who haven't yet done so, NOW IS YOUR MOMENT! Call your senator. Email your senator. (List attached) Let him/her know how you feel about this jobs tax component. Your message is simple: it will cost your employees their benefits, and in some cases you will have to lay off employees. This is anti-jobs and makes no sense in our current economy. Vote NO on H.B. 3. Be sure to identify yourself, your dealership, and how many employees will lose their jobs because of this vote. It doesn't matter where you are or the characteristics of your dealership: EVERY SENATOR SHOULD HEAR FROM DEALER S TODAY!!!!! Time is short and things down here are getting pretty weird. So please do not hesitate to call today. They will, listen.


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KEYWORDS: 2006; 2006election; govwatch; nofreebies4illegals; nonewtaxes; payrolltax; taxes; texas; throwthebumsout
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To: Dead Corpse

Thanks for the link, I see that they are still hiding the vote tally to cover their butts.


101 posted on 05/11/2005 10:58:25 PM PDT by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 26 more races to go...)
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To: Donaeus
Good for you!!! :)

bump! bump! bump!


102 posted on 05/12/2005 3:12:42 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP; All
Thanks :-)

Heard this morning that the education portion includes funds earmarked for NON-ENGLISH speaking students (Read: children of undocumented workers, illegal aliens, criminal invaders). We may have to find out if Texas has a recall remedy and do a Gray-out over in Austin!!

103 posted on 05/12/2005 5:20:28 AM PDT by Donaeus (Government is not the guarantor of our freedom it is the forger of our chains.)
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To: TheGrimReaper
My email was as follows: Honorable Governor Perry, I am writing to voice my displeasure with our State Legislature and the passage of the Tax Reform Bill, also known as HB 3. The citizens of Texas do not need and do not want a payroll tax, a state income tax, or any variation of such. Let's not be fooled by a reduction in property taxes when it would result in a state income tax. Then in the following years, the property taxes would quickly return to current levels. One of the big attractions of Texas, is it's low taxes. If we raise taxes, the Texas economy will suffer. There would be no incentive for a business (or people) to move from New Jersey. The people of Texas do not vote for Republicans in order to see their taxes raised. We would vote Democrat if we wanted that. Thank you for your time.
104 posted on 05/12/2005 7:29:34 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (All It Takes For Evil to Succeed is for Good Men to Do Nothing.)
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To: Barney Gumble
If Perry lets that highway robbery bill become law, I swear I'll vote for Kinky.

"They're just not makin' Jews like Jesus anymore" - Kinky Friedman.

105 posted on 05/12/2005 7:46:07 AM PDT by TheGrimReaper ("Virtue begat Prosperity, and the daughter killed the mother". - Cotton Mather, 1720.)
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To: OKIEDOC

Rick Perry had nothing to do with this......yet.

This was David Dewhurst.

Perry has done a very good job. He has held the line, so far, on taxes.

He also got Texas ranked as number one state for business due to that program he pushed.


106 posted on 05/12/2005 8:55:28 AM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: Dead Corpse; steveegg

Still no vote tally listed.

What are they hiding from us NOW?


107 posted on 05/12/2005 10:09:26 AM PDT by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 26 more races to go...)
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To: deport
“With the passage of this bill we can tell Texans their property taxes are going to be lower, their schools are going to be better,” said Sen. Steve Ogden, R-Bryan.

The same line of BS that was fed to us about the lottery!!!

This also tells me that this POS (my senator) did vote for this bill after several e-mails and phone calls from me.

I guess that they did not believe that when I told them that we would vote them out of office I meant it.

108 posted on 05/12/2005 10:16:09 AM PDT by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 26 more races to go...)
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To: ChefKeith
Still no vote tally listed.

What are they hiding from us NOW?

The seeds of their political doom.

109 posted on 05/12/2005 10:30:27 AM PDT by steveegg (Bring back Hoosier, Firestone; SOMEBODY to get Badyear off their duffs and make a good tire.)
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To: MeekOneGOP; All
Just got off the phone with the Gov office. The lady sounded very tired of hearing the same thing-"This must be stopped!"

I told her that we had been fed the same line on the lottery as we were fed on HB3 and it had to stop, cut the budget but STOP raising taxes. And the lottery was supposed to take care of the school funding. What happened to that?
110 posted on 05/12/2005 10:36:24 AM PDT by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 26 more races to go...)
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To: steveegg

Too late.

I'm just waiting for the tally to come out before I call my "senator" soon to be EX-...


111 posted on 05/12/2005 10:39:07 AM PDT by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 26 more races to go...)
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To: ChefKeith
Exactly. Way to go! Give 'em he**!

112 posted on 05/12/2005 12:13:31 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Well all the proposed taxes will surely give Texas a bad name.

Why is it that for well over a century Texas has gotten along fine with out screwing its citizens with socialist taxes.

One reason may be the propensity of politicians to spend themselves back into office.


113 posted on 05/12/2005 1:25:37 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: ChefKeith

Thanks for the link, I see that they are still hiding the vote tally to cover their butts.



It's on page 1921 of the daily journal if you are interested.....


114 posted on 05/12/2005 4:09:30 PM PDT by deport (Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue....)
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To: ArmyBratproud

A payroll tax? That's about the worst type of tax there is. WTF is wrong with the senators in Texas? Do they want to follow in Michigan's No1 unemployment rating footsteps?


115 posted on 05/12/2005 4:14:32 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Fire Stabenow in 2006")
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To: ArmyBratproud; deport; MeekOneGOP; WestCoastGal; TexasCowboy; SouthTexas; basil; Xenalyte; ...
O.K. here is the vote tally on HB3 (The theft of more of your money disguised as a tax reduction bill)

Yeas: Armbrister,Averitt,Brimmer,Carona,Duncan,Estes,Frasier,Harris,Hinajosa,Jackson,Janeck,Lindsay,Lucio,Madla,Ogden,Shapiro,Staples,Wentworth,Whitmire,Zaffirini.

These are all now on the FR Texas Vote them OUT OF OFFICE hit list!!!

Ogden YOU are on MY PERSONAL LIST to defeat!!!I called your office 3 times over this bill and you still screw US, so get ready to pay the price.

Nays: Barrientos,Ellis,Eltife,Gallegos,Nelson,Seliger,Shapleigh,Van De Putte,West,Williams

Looks like a few of the ones that RAN over the redistricting spat are trying to play the "good guy" plan now so they don't get canned in the upcoming elections.

TC, I'm still Praying for You and I'm sure you have many other things on your mind right now but just incase you missed all this mess here's a ping anyway.

116 posted on 05/12/2005 10:42:42 PM PDT by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 26 more races to go...)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I think that it's time to do a lobotomy in Austin..
117 posted on 05/12/2005 10:44:29 PM PDT by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 26 more races to go...)
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To: Squantos

Opps I missed Ya ping

May as well see my other rant of the moment;)


118 posted on 05/12/2005 11:10:46 PM PDT by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is done but we got 26 more races to go...)
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To: ChefKeith

Kel Seliger.........poster boy for planned parenthood.


119 posted on 05/12/2005 11:34:05 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: ChefKeith

So has this passed ?!?!?!?


120 posted on 05/12/2005 11:35:56 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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