Police used Taser on pregnant driver (Seattle)

The Seattle P.I. ^ | May 10, 2005 | HECTOR CASTRO

[marvlus]

You're a cop-hater?

[Horatio Gates]

Sounds like he's more lazy than anything else. Just doing enough to get through the shift mentality and taking shortcuts. Failing to act is just as bad as...well you know the rest.

[5Madman2]

Roger that-

Lazy is it

One of those that is so lazy, it's a good thing for him that breathing is a non voluntary reflex action. If he had to do it for himself, there'd be problems

[Horatio Gates]

I won't say there aren't a##hole cops out there.

LOL that reminds me of an old cop anecdote:

Some cops are as*holes.
Don't worry, other cops think they're as*holes too.

[5Madman2]

DING DING DING, we have a winner.

Roscoe Rules from the "Choirboys" (The book, not the Movie)

The penultimate a##hole cop

[Horatio Gates]

Haven't read it, but Harvey Keitel goes above and beyond in Bad Lieutenant. Gotta go..see ya out there.

[Paridel]

Some of what you see is driven by the Municipality they work for (Not a good reason, but they need to keep their jobs too.)

I think this is a good point you bring up here, I don't know if it is true but I have heard of Municipalities putting officers on a quota system. (i.e. you *will* issue x number of tickets this month).

What I have a problem with is not so much the officers as the system, I think often traffic ticket schemes are sometimes not designed to reduce accidents but rather to increase revenue. I have heard from several civil engineers that traffic light fatalities could be reduced by increasing the length of yellow lights, but that typically light timings are optimized for revenue not safety.

That in particular is clearly not the fault of the officers. I certainly don't think that all "Cops are Nazis", and I also understand that is would be hard not to get a little bit jaded when you have to worry about getting shot at after pulling some over for a minor traffic violation.

When writing this reply I started thinking about a relative of mine... he is on the Maryland highway patrol, and he talks about not letting the outliers give him a bad impression of the populous as a whole. I suppose I should apply this to the police force as well.

Anyway, I appreciate your work, personally I would have a hard time sticking to a job that has the possibility of getting shot at by the people I'm trying to protect.

-paridel

[5Madman2]

Seen it

Very true

Stay Safe

[5Madman2]

If I tried to argue any point you made on Municpalities, I would be guilty of lying or being Pollyanna.

Fortunately, I am not under any of those restrictions

I know of some that are. The ones that don't llike it make do. The ones that do like make all others look bad.

Good Luck and Thank you

[Cate]

The woman broke a law. Not all laws that officers need to enforce are robberies and rapes. Also, if this woman is a large woman, her pregnancy might not have been evident. I am sure there is more to this story than what is in the article. Just from the article, this isn't the first time she has gotten a ticket for speeding, maybe she should drive a bit more careful in order to protect her 'fetus'.

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

The police officer is supposed to be the "voice of reason" in unreasonable situations.

Voice of reason?! That's LOL funny!!! Is that your impression of the police? Police are the voice of authority, not the voice of reason. You'd know that if you ever had one barking in your face.

[Atlas Sneezed]

So how many hours have you spent studying school zones so you could know that it was perfectly safe to travel faster than the posted speed limit in a school zone?

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More poor rhetoric. I never said "perfectly safe".

And your wrongly suggest that all school zones are the same at all times, and that all zone limits are equally good or bad.

Sorry, but you should try to prove your point, instead of fabricating something you can defeat, and pretend was my point.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Please tell me you don't have school age children.

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Please tell me you will discuss the issue, instead of the off-topic personal comments.

[Atlas Sneezed]

What is the correlation between your being an engineer and a moving traffic violation? It's about speeding in a school zone which started the whole brouhaha.

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The point is that safety is about engineering, and not about politics, or arbitrary limits that generate revebnue. Nor is it about cops, good, bad, or corrupt.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Let's just all pick and choose which laws we obey and which we don't.

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Since engineering studies show that the speed people naturally travel without limits is the safest, as a rule, you are actually more correct than you realize.

Of course, that wasn't my position. I don't believe that arguing that a certain law is wrong is tantamount to advocating its disobedience.

You might try making your own argument, instead of putting words in my mouth.

[Atlas Sneezed]

I won't say there aren't a##hole cops out there.

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All the "good" cops say this, but I am waiting for them to actually DO something about it. Otherwise, you are judged by the worst of your brethern.

[5Madman2]

Come back when you have a valid point, not colored by your crappy attitude

Have a Nice Day

[processing please hold]

Would you please stop throwing your engineering degree at me like a weapon. I'm not impressed.

You might try making your own argument, instead of putting words in my mouth.

What words did I put in your mouth?

[Sofa King]

Most schools zones I've been through don't even have kids crossing the street near them.

[processing please hold]

Please tell me you will discuss the issue, instead of the off-topic personal comments.

Your statement flies in the face of reality. For a child sake I wouldn't want you to be responsible for their safety since you think all children should behave like little adults concerning safety. Children are children. They don't always look both ways before crossing a street. They don't always think before darting out between two parked cars chasing a ball.