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Bush Criticizes FDR Over Yalta
AP Via Yahoo News ^ | Sat May 7, 5:53 PM ET | TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent

Posted on 05/09/2005 10:16:08 PM PDT by TBP

RIGA, Latvia - Second-guessing Franklin D. Roosevelt, President Bush said Saturday the United States played a role in Europe's painful division after World War II — a decision that helped cause "one of the greatest wrongs of history" when the Soviet Union imposed its harsh rule across Central and Eastern Europe.

Bush said the lessons of the past will not be forgotten as the United States tries to spread freedom in the Middle East.

"We will not repeat the mistakes of other generations, appeasing or excusing tyranny, and sacrificing freedom in the vain pursuit of stability," the president said. "We have learned our lesson; no one's liberty is expendable. In the long run, our security and true stability depend on the freedom of others."

Bush singled out the 1945 Yalta agreement signed by Roosevelt in a speech opening a four-day trip focused on Monday's celebration in Moscow of the 60th anniversary of Nazi Germany's defeat.

In recent days Bush has urged Russia to own up to its wartime past. It appeared he decided to do the same, himself, to set an example for Vladimir Putin, the Russian president.

Bush also used his address to lecture Putin about his handling of the emergence of democratic countries on Russia's borders. "No good purpose is served by stirring up fears and exploiting old rivalries in this region," Bush said. "The interests of Russia and all nations are served by the growth of freedom that leads to prosperity and peace."

Bush spent the day with the leaders of three Baltic republics — Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Many in the Baltic countries are still bitter about the Soviet annexation of their countries and the harsh occupation that followed the war for nearly 50 years. Acknowledging that anger and frustration still linger, Bush said that "we have a great opportunity to move beyond the past." His message here — and throughout his trip — is that the world is entering a new phase of freedom and all countries should get on board.

While history does not hide the U.S. role in Europe's division, American presidents have found little reason to discuss it before Bush's speech.

"Certainly it goes further than any president has gone," historian Alan Brinkley said from the U.S. "This has been a very common view of the far right for many years — that Yalta was a betrayal of freedom, that Roosevelt betrayed the hopes of generations."

Bush said the Yalta agreement, also signed by Britain's Winston Churchill and the Soviet Union's Joseph Stalin, followed in the "unjust tradition" of other infamous war pacts that carved up the continent and left millions in oppression. The Yalta accord gave Stalin control of the whole of Eastern Europe, leading to criticism that Roosevelt had delivered millions of people to communist domination.

"Once again, when powerful governments negotiated, the freedom of small nations was somehow expendable," the president said. "Yet this attempt to sacrifice freedom for the sake of stability left a continent divided and unstable."

Bush said the United States and its allies eventually recognized they could not be satisfied with the liberation of half of Europe and decided "we would not forget our friends behind an Iron Curtain."

The United States never forgot the Baltic peoples, Bush said, and flew the flags of free Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania over diplomatic missions in Washington.

"And when you joined hands in protest and the empire fell away," the president said, "the legacy of Yalta was finally buried, once and for all."

Putin, writing in a French newspaper Saturday, said the Soviet Union already made amends in 1989 and his country will not answer the demands of Baltic states for further repentance. "Such pretensions are useless," Putin wrote in Le Figaro.

Bush reminded Baltic countries that democracy brings obligations along with elections and independence. He said minority rights and equal justice must be protected, a nod to Moscow's concerns about the treatment of Russian-speakers in the three ex-Soviet republics.

Bush applauded the Baltics for supporting democracy in Ukraine and spoke approvingly of democracy progress in Georgia and Moldova.

At a news conference, Bush rejected the suggestion that Washington and Moscow work out a mutually agreeable way to bring democracy to Belarus — the former Soviet republic that Bush calls the "last remaining dictatorship in Europe."

"Secret deals to determine somebody else's fate — I think that's what we're lamenting here today, one of those secret deals among large powers that consigns people to a way of government," Bush said. He called for "free and open and fair" elections set for next year in Belarus, now run by authoritarian President Alexander Lukashenko.

Bush placed a wreath at the Latvian Freedom Monument, a towering obelisk symbolizing this small country's struggle for independence. While he is unpopular across much of Europe because of the Iraq war, Bush got a warm welcome here.

Latvian President Vaira Vike-Freiberga presented Bush with the nation's top honor, the Three-Star Order, calling him a "signal fighter of freedom and democracy in the world."

Bush has irritated Russia by bracketing his visit to Moscow Sunday with stops in two former Soviet republics, Latvia and Georgia. He arrived in the Netherlands on Saturday night, ahead of a speech Sunday at an American cemetery.


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To: TBP

I' glad the President brought this up: it needed to be said.
In fact, FDR was advised by communists, communist sympathizers and even a "mole" working for the Soviets.


61 posted on 05/10/2005 7:31:40 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: You Dirty Rats

bump


62 posted on 05/10/2005 8:04:32 AM PDT by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Logos124

ping


63 posted on 05/10/2005 8:04:52 AM PDT by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: hobbes1
Much like Hillary!ous likes to compare herself to Eleanor Roosevelt, the darling of the Pink Left, Bush is fairly clearly renouncing the communist past of both the USSR, and the US. (Hopkins, Hiss, FDR....)

This is the kind of thing I like to see. It is something you'd never see from the likes of Chuck Hagel

64 posted on 05/10/2005 9:42:35 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (you can be whoever you want to be on the Internet)
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To: TBP
It was also after the Yalta agreement that the system of gulags really got going. We agreed to send Soviet POWs we rescued from the Nazis directly to Siberia.

I don't doubt part of this is true, but not all.
My Russian wife's father was captured at Stalingrad by the Germans, and was a POW until he was liberated by the Americans. He returned to his home in Russia and never spent one day in the gulag. No, he was not a communist. Additionally, he taught his children that Stalin was an evil monster.
65 posted on 05/10/2005 10:17:15 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: You Dirty Rats
Did you know that 2 million Russians switched sides to fight with the Germans during the war. The only reason it wasn't more was because Hitler put a limit how how many Russians the Germans would take. This was even with the atrocities the Germans committed on the Russians. The Russians wanted the Communist out as much as anybody.

As for wanting to bring the boys home, most Americans didn't want to go to war in the first place either. The case could have been made and Americans of the time would have accepted it.

Also, you could have brought the boys home anyway, Patton was ready to lead Germans back into Russia.

Another thing, exactly which nations had the Atomic bomb at the end of WWII?

It is a real stretch to say the US couldn't have ended communism in both Russia and China. Instead, we got the United Nations.

Yes, we lost WWII. If you don't realize it, your grandchildren will.
66 posted on 05/10/2005 1:01:39 PM PDT by usa1776
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To: TBP

Wilson throw out the ideas, FDR funded them. It wasn't until WWII that taxes were withheld from your paycheck. Americans had opposed such an absurd idea before, but with the war it was the only "patriotic" thing to do. Additionally, it was promoted as a way to make sure the rich paid. Just another reason the USA and freedom did not win WWII.


67 posted on 05/10/2005 1:18:12 PM PDT by usa1776
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To: jamaksin
Harry "The Hop" Hopkins was the program's director at the time, and known now via the VENONA decrypts, to be Soviet agent "No. 19"

Do you have a link for this?

68 posted on 05/10/2005 1:24:47 PM PDT by TBP
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To: ZULU
FDR was one of the most overrated of Presidents - a defective individual who tried unsuccessfully to achieve the glory of his illustrious relative Teddy Roosevelt.

A defective individual who tried unsuccessfully to establish a dictatorship in America.

69 posted on 05/10/2005 1:49:18 PM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

Had he not died in Office he would have been another Franco or Stalin - leader for life. Just talk to some old foggies who were around when he was President.

They act like he was the Second Coming.


70 posted on 05/10/2005 1:58:49 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: wardaddy
FDR was dying and Hiss ran Yalta. Churchill was adamantly against EVERYTHING that FDR was saying and doing. He was the only one who shown brightly there.

And it's a very good thing that President Bush brought this up. :-)

71 posted on 05/10/2005 2:24:18 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: TBP

read later


72 posted on 05/10/2005 2:57:43 PM PDT by CharlieOK1 (See http://www.alisrael.com/tamuz/ for what should happen to Iran)
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To: ZULU
Actually, he was President for Life.
73 posted on 05/10/2005 3:22:06 PM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

Touche.

Fortunately it wasn't longer.


74 posted on 05/10/2005 6:56:12 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: TBP

This is all what my grandfather (died in 1986 one month short of 100) always said. He despised FDR and had little doubt that FDR prolonged the depression with his policies and that he sold out eastern Europe, generating the cold war. He was from Missouri and bore a resemblance to Truman. I remarked on that once as a kid and my mom told me in no uncertain terms to never repeat that to grandpa. He disliked Truman, FDR and all democrats. He considered them the party of corruption and the party of the KKK. He saw it all first hand and I'd say he had it right.


75 posted on 05/10/2005 7:36:46 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The rats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RJS1950

I am sure everything would of been alot better if we fought the Russians and kicked them out of europe after we beat the germans. /sarcasm off


76 posted on 05/10/2005 10:39:23 PM PDT by SkoalBandit
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To: SkoalBandit

Everything would have been a lot better longterm if we had pushed them back behind their own borders. And in any event, we didn't have to ratify their conquests and the borders agreed to in the Stalin-Hitler pact.


77 posted on 05/11/2005 7:17:05 AM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

You have a massive Soviet army in control of all of Eastern Europe and a person with even perfect hindsite is supposed to tell them to get out?

A war at that point between the U.S. and the Soviets would have made the rest of WW2 seem like a tea party. The best that could of happened would be a stalemate.


78 posted on 05/11/2005 9:30:10 AM PDT by SkoalBandit
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To: usa1776
It wasn't until WWII that taxes were withheld from your paycheck.

Quite true.

When people have to sit down and write a check to the government for their taxes, they tend to know how much they're paying. It generally causes some amount of dismay when people see their taxes going up.

As a wartime measure, the federal government instituted paycheck witholding to soften the blow for the millions of Americans who had, up until then, never had to pay. Also, to speed up tax collection to pay for the war.

Among the proponents of the new witholding tax was a young official in the Treasury Department named Milton Friedman.

He now, of course, regrets it deeply.

The lesson: It is far easier to introduce a government program than to get rid of it.

79 posted on 05/11/2005 10:58:37 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: TBP
Thanks for posting the transcript of Rush's show.

I happened to be listening on my car radio that day and about drove off the road when Felix brought up the "repatriation" issue. Nobody but Birchers ever talks about the forced return of millions of Russians, Ukranians, and other Eastern Europeans after the war had ended to work as forced labor in Stalin's gulag. I was eagerly anticipating what would be coming next.

To preserve Rush's stature as a conservative spokesman, he prattled about gulags and shut down the caller before Felix could continue to educate his audience.

Operation Keelhaul was a disgraceful action which few Americans know about, and those that do did not learn of it in the publik skools, you can be assured.

80 posted on 05/11/2005 11:21:29 AM PDT by logician2u
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