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Posted on 05/08/2005 3:38:21 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: janetgreen
Re: the pictures of the tattooed gang members - I wonder how many of the open borders supporters would like these guys living next door... Especially considering what some of those tatoos mean. They must be earned. And not in the same way one earns an Eagle Scout badge.
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posted on
05/08/2005 11:27:41 AM PDT
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(This tagline will be destoyed to make way for a new Hyperspace bypass.)
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Each tear means he killed someone. For him, that means two.
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posted on
05/08/2005 11:54:25 AM PDT
by
shellshocked
(They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Those scumbags are a big reason why many people won't go shopping in L.A. anymore. They're a scary bunch.
The mayoral candidate (Villagairose) who is trying to unseat the present mayor of L.A. (Hahn) actually fought against a gang injunction in L.A., and he supported the practice of "no ask, no tell" regarding immigration status by the police. Can you believe this guy is supposedly ahead of Hahn in the polls?
Anyone saying that this is not an invasion is a liar, or is deaf and dumb. We're being outnumbered, we're being colonized.
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posted on
05/08/2005 12:00:18 PM PDT
by
janetgreen
(CLOSE THE BORDERS)
To: janetgreen
We're being outnumbered, we're being colonized. At what point, do you think, there will arise in this country an underground society that will start eliminating large numbers of these types of "colonists"? A white ninjitsu of sorts. A backlash is coming. It's only a matter of 'when'.
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posted on
05/08/2005 12:06:32 PM PDT
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(This tagline will be destoyed to make way for a new Hyperspace bypass.)
To: Happy2BMe
To: Happy2BMe
To: Happy2BMe
In addition to number 3. illegals carry a host of diseases that are caught in the screening process for LEGALS.
Tuberculosis and others previously almost eradicated in the US are now significantly on the rise in areas with a high illegal population.
Our government is literally killing us by not fulfilling their enumerated duty to secure the border!
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posted on
05/08/2005 12:14:08 PM PDT
by
MamaTexan
(I am not a legal entity, nor am I a *person* as defined and/or created by 'law'!!)
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
underground society According to a statement made to me by a police officer friend, I think that type of retaliation may have already started. There's lots of "gang killings" going on. We just don't really know "who killed who".
I think it will escalate as people get more and more fed up with being forced by our own government to support and put up with these scumbags.
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posted on
05/08/2005 12:25:10 PM PDT
by
janetgreen
(CLOSE THE BORDERS)
To: MamaTexan; TomasUSMC; Dad yer funny; tertiary01; Dante3; G.Mason; Casaubon
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posted on
05/08/2005 1:25:36 PM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
To: dagnabbit
Myths and Legends About Illegal Immigration
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posted on
05/08/2005 1:27:06 PM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
To: raybbr
"...from the illegal-alien lovers convention...I take it you are referring to the FOQNA loon hyena pack...
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posted on
05/08/2005 1:30:49 PM PDT
by
Czar
(StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
To: gubamyster
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!
Be Ever Vigilant!
Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!
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posted on
05/08/2005 2:06:16 PM PDT
by
blackie
(Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
To: Happy2BMe
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posted on
05/08/2005 2:27:00 PM PDT
by
G.Mason
( Because Free Republic obviously needed another opinionated big mouth ... Proud NRA member)
To: Czar
...FOQNA...Okay. I'll bite. ????????
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posted on
05/08/2005 2:54:08 PM PDT
by
raybbr
To: Happy2BMe
"7. Without illegal aliens, the price of agricultural products and other goods and services will NOT soar. "
So true, especially when one considers that a majority of our winter fruit comes from South America and not the US. We import massive amounts of fruits and vegetables from South America during the months we are buried under snow.
If illegal labor provided such cheap produce then why do we pay the same for fruits and vegetables during the years regardles of where they come from? Proof enough.
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posted on
05/08/2005 2:57:22 PM PDT
by
shellshocked
(They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
To: Happy2BMe
Good article. Thank you for the post.
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posted on
05/08/2005 3:09:06 PM PDT
by
TAdams8591
(Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
To: FBD
I had no idea the fence was that much, does your 10 billion dollar figure include every cost to the country; medical, SS, welfare, crime you name it.Ten billion is a lot but it seems to me I have seen higher figures, but can't substantiate right now. There are a million hidden costs to putting up with illegal aliens from increased law enforcement to job displacement. It's a tough figure to estimate.
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posted on
05/08/2005 4:57:39 PM PDT
by
rodguy911
(rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
To: rodguy911
>"I had no idea the fence was that much"<
-Yes, that is an estimate based on what Israel spent on it's fence. Israel's fence costs between 2 to 4 million per mile, but it's a pretty elaborate system.
Our border has some pretty tough terrain, however, and access would require some utility/ maintenance road building.
8 billion is a realistic number.
I believe a border fence/wall with Mexico is going to happen, eventually. Of course there will be proper exit entry stations at all the roadways.
>"does your 10 billion dollar figure include every cost to the country; medical, SS, welfare, crime you name it.Ten billion is a lot but it seems to me I have seen higher figures, but can't substantiate right now."<
I've seen estimates that are considered accurate, that illegals cost as much as 26 billion, yet contribute 16 about billion in taxes. (That includes FICA)
That is where the 10 billion dollar figure comes from; the deficit between what they contribute, and what they use in govt services, including the costs you mentioned.
Those numbers are from FAIR.
But as you said, that is hard to estimate, and some of the costs are intangible, like job displacement, victims of illegal alien crime, etc.
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posted on
05/08/2005 6:05:54 PM PDT
by
FBD
( "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." ~Bertrand de Jouvenel)
To: rodguy911
Here's the article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33783-2004Aug25.html
Illegal Immigrants' Cost to Government Studied
By Mary Fitzgerald
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 26, 2004; Page A21
"A report that found that illegal immigrants in the United States cost the federal government more than $10 billion a year -- a sum it estimated would almost triple if they were given amnesty -- has drawn criticism from immigration advocacy groups.
For its report, the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based group that advocates tougher immigration policies, used Census Bureau figures to compare the revenue that illegal immigrants contribute through taxes with the cost of government services they use."
Illegal immigrants create a fiscal deficit because they have low incomes, Steven A. Camarota said. (Robert A. Reede - Robert A. Reeder -- The Washington Post)
"Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household," said Steven A. Camarota, author of the study.
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posted on
05/08/2005 6:35:36 PM PDT
by
FBD
( "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." ~Bertrand de Jouvenel)
To: FBD
My biggest fear is that the Democrats (HRC) will suddenly become anti illegal alien, just long enough to regain power and advance socialism/statism. There are a lot of people in this country that want to hear some national leader take a stand against illegals. Don't put it past her.
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posted on
05/08/2005 7:04:58 PM PDT
by
Comus
(First REVENGE, then ANNIHILATION)
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