Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

As border debate rages, immigrants' fears rise
sacbee ^ | 5-7-05

Posted on 05/07/2005 10:26:39 AM PDT by LouAvul

....snip......

"Why are they so angry?" asked Teresa Gonzalez, 57, a Mexican immigrant and naturalized citizen.

"They," according to Gonzalez, include a variety of individuals and groups:

• Last month, volunteers calling themselves Minutemen descended on the Arizona border to deter illegal immigrants from crossing into the United States, and a Southern California organization announced plans to do the same near San Diego this summer.

• Last week, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger praised the work of the Minutemen, saying, "They've done a terrific job."

• Earlier this week, Southern California Assemblyman Ray Haynes, R-Murrieta, submitted a proposed initiative that would establish a state police force to enforce immigration laws.

• And the U.S. Senate is poised to approve a measure that would, among other things, discourage states from issuing driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

Gonzalez fears these elements are combustible and could spark violence.

She also knows there's no simple answer to her question.

Paul Rosenzweig is a senior legal research fellow at the Heritage Foundation. "There's a growing sense of dissatisfaction with the current (immigration) system," he said.

Though the Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank, Rosenzweig said liberal immigration advocates agree that change is needed.

"I don't think there's any consensus on what the right answer is," he said.

It seems everyone has jumped into the immigration debate, from President Bush - who has advocated a guest worker program - to California's GOP governor.

One popular theory is that Schwarzenegger's comments were a politically motivated attempt to boost his sagging poll numbers.

But activists on all sides offer a variety of reasons for recent immigration-related debates, border patrols and proposals.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderthunder
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141 next last
To: LogicalMs
"Your anti-hispanic virulence has just made the GOP a permanent, whites only, minority political party."

I'm reading here about people expressing their sentiments about illegal immigrants pouring in from Mexico by the millions. I'm completely baffled by your assertion that they are trashing hispanics in general, and not ILLEGAL ALIENS in particular. What should they say, these illegals are just popping up from the earth and not really streaming in from Mexico?

I think what you're really saying, (without knowing it), is that if all the illegal aliens penetrating our borders in the dark of night and evading our immigration system just happen to be Mexicans, then that speaks for itself. They are not immigrants in the same sense our parents and forefathers were, they are infiltrators.

21 posted on 05/07/2005 11:20:37 AM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: LouAvul

"As border debate rages, immigrants' fears rise"

Good, be afraid, be very afraid, and maybe they won't come here where criminals are not welcome.


22 posted on 05/07/2005 11:22:34 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LouAvul; All
Crosslinked:For "Thunder on the Border," click this picture:


23 posted on 05/07/2005 11:24:07 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ursus arctos horribilis
"Good, be afraid, be very afraid, and maybe they won't come here where criminals are not welcome."

Exactly the point!!!!

24 posted on 05/07/2005 11:27:29 AM PDT by el_texicano
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: mthom

In fact a poll said a majority of Mexicans believe they can come illegaly because the southwest really belongs to mexico.





Imagine that! Utter arrogance, and totally disgusting.

Yet, we have people who are not alarmed. Unreal, huh?


25 posted on 05/07/2005 11:27:49 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: LogicalMs; onyx; Travis McGee; Eaker

Nice try turning the illegal criminal act of any nationality entering into any country in a manner not prescribed by that countries laws into a racical issue zippy. Won't wash.......show me anyone here currently that was here generations before I was because that is a oldest goat in the friggin world record.......if your making such a stupid stand then the caveman holds the original deed.......

Common tactic in the OBL ranks (those I suspect profit from illegal workers) is to try and play the race card. I won't let you.

Or my poor translation:

Intento de Niza que da vuelta al acto criminal ilegal de cualquier nacionalidad que entra en cualquier país de una manera no prescrita por ésa leyes de los países en una edición racical zippy. No lavará.......show yo cualquier persona aquí actualmente que estaba aquí las generaciones antes de que fuera porque eso es una cabra más vieja del expediente.......if del mundo del friggin su fabricación un soporte tan estúpido entonces de los asimientos del hombre de las cavernas el hecho original.......

La táctica común en las filas de OBL (ésas beneficio del sospechoso de I de trabajadores ilegales) es intentar y jugar la tarjeta de la raza. No le dejaré.


26 posted on 05/07/2005 11:28:42 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Squantos; LogicalMs

Excellent post, Squantos.

You've eloquently exposed the racist tripe posted by LM.

You'd think that old race card would have worn itself out by now.


27 posted on 05/07/2005 11:32:41 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: onyx

I know a little bit about everything and alot about nothing but I know what those who play the race card are....:o)

Stay safe !!


28 posted on 05/07/2005 11:41:12 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: LouAvul
Statement: "As border debate rages, immigrants' fears rise"

Response: Shall America aim for alien terror!!!!!!!!

Comment: Organize the citizens; then, round up Trains, airplanes, buses, semitrucks, taxi's, private vehicles even pogo sticks! Then let the giant sweeps begin!

29 posted on 05/07/2005 11:41:20 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LogicalMs
The consequence of all this hispanic-bashing will be to push hispanics over to the Democrat party along with Republican gays and Republican pro-choicers.

Earth to LM: They are already there. They have been brought up with line "Republicans are Racists" their whole lives. A few yahoos won't make any difference.

The Left (who are willing to sell our economy and sovreigity for a few sheckels [=votes, illegal or not]) repeat the same thing time:

Most illegal aliens are from Mexico
Republicans are against illegal immigration
therefore Republicans hate illegal aliens
therefore Republicans hate Mexicans
therefore Republicans are racist.

It is for the very simpleminded (of which many seem to have popped up here on FR).

What is funny is that "Mexican" (or even "Latino") is not a race. My beautifully exotic-looking Mexican wife is taken for lots of ethnicities, but almost never Mexican. If you go to Mexico City, Monterrey or Guadalajara, you would think you were in Sweden.

30 posted on 05/07/2005 11:41:47 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women (HJ Simpson))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

Comment #31 Removed by Moderator

To: LouAvul

"I don't think there's any consensus on what the right answer is,"

Oh no! That's exactly what the open border crackpots and enemies of America would like us to believe.

The majority of the American people do not want our country to turn into another Haiti, or Brazil, or Mexico or a combination thereof. They don't want the country our forefathers created to turn into a colony of the alien invaders.

Some Americans are indifferent to the most critical issue facing the country and its rapid transformation and think that an American Haiti or Mexico is not inevitable. But we can avoid such a fate if we once again take control of our government, the media and our borders NOW.

The longer we wait, the harder the battle for our survival and freedom that we -- and even more so, our children -- will face.

No nation in the history of the world has undergone such a sweeping demograhic shift in so short a period. Time to act, arrest and reverse the trends, or we can kiss America good bye.


32 posted on 05/07/2005 11:57:15 AM PDT by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LogicalMs

Conservative Christians dont use the state to despense their charity for them.


33 posted on 05/07/2005 12:02:12 PM PDT by mthom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

Comment #34 Removed by Moderator

To: LogicalMs
We have a huge dept, expanding free trade, baby boomers retiring soon, and a swarm of illegal poor immigrants. This is a perfect storm of Marxism.
35 posted on 05/07/2005 12:04:25 PM PDT by bahblahbah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

Comment #36 Removed by Moderator

To: LogicalMs
People are distinguishing between illegals and legal immigrants. Also, for your information, a large part of naturalized citizens are also pissed off about illegals crossing our borders. Illegals taking jobs, illegals bringing in crime, illegals bringing in terrorism.

If you are comfortable with that then you will be pleased when the first nuke goes off in one of our major cities. To think that there is no problem with illegals is to bury your head in the sand and hope for the best. We need to get our borders under control and make sure the only immigrants we have coming into this country are legal.

The days when we could have an open border are gone, terrorists ended that forever on 9/11, it is just that our politicians and liberals haven't figured it out yet, or just don't want to.

37 posted on 05/07/2005 12:06:52 PM PDT by calex59
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: LogicalMs
"I doubt that some people posting on this issue distinguish between "illegal Mexican immigrants" and Hispanics who were here generations before they were. "

Amazing isn't it how many posters can't concieve of a person with an Hispanic name, living in an Hispanic named city in an Hispanic named state could be anything other than an illegal foreigner?

38 posted on 05/07/2005 12:07:54 PM PDT by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: bayourod

How many? Care to name 'em?

You are totally WRONG.

Unlike you, we know the difference between legal, naturalized, American born and ILLEGAL INVASION.



39 posted on 05/07/2005 12:10:32 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

Comment #40 Removed by Moderator


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 141 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson