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Blair may decide to quit sooner than expected
The Daily Telegraph ^ | May 6, 2005 | Rachel Sylvester

Posted on 05/06/2005 5:36:10 AM PDT by MadIvan

Tony Blair may have secured a historic third term for the Labour Party last night but the reduction in the size of his majority will significantly change the way in which he is able to act.

His power and his position in the party have depended almost entirely on the perception since his landslide victory in 1997 that he is a winner. In many parts of the country that has now been undermined.

Last night's result could make it more difficult for the Prime Minister to stay in office for the whole of the next Parliament as he promised to do when he said last year that he intended to stand down.

Mr Blair's allies have been admitting privately for several weeks that he would almost certainly have to resign if the Labour majority fell below 60. In the view of many Blairites, 60 to 70 was a grey area which would leave the party leader severely weakened.

Yesterday, before the result was declared, some ministers close to the Labour leader said he would stay at Number 10 for as long as possible.

Other Blairites, though, have detected a change in the Prime Minister's mood during a difficult campaign.

"I think he'll go in about 18 months," said one loyal minister earlier in the week. "Whatever the outcome of the election, he's been badly damaged by the campaign."

Another Labour strategist admitted that Mr Blair's morale had been badly affected by the criticisms he had received from voters on the stump.

"Tony has been shocked by the level of hostility to him personally in the run-up to polling day. No one can know what effect that will have."

However long Mr Blair decides to stay in Downing Street, the reduction in the size of Labour's parliamentary majority will make it much more difficult for him to do what he wants.

The Government will struggle to get controversial legislation, such as proposals to introduce identity cards, on to the statute book now that the number of Labour MPs has been reduced.

Mr Blair may find it hard to implement "unremittingly New Labour" reforms of the public services with a smaller and potentially more rebellious parliamentary party. This month's Queen's Speech is expected to include around 40 Bills.

These will put forward proposals to increase the role of the private sector in the running of state services, plans to create a points system for immigration, and measures to give parents more power to close down failing schools.

Several of these pieces of proposed legislation will be controversial with Labour backbenchers, who are likely to feel emboldened.

Mr Blair may also find it harder to assert his authority on a number of big policy issues, not dealt with in the Labour manifesto, which are due to come to a head in the next six months.

Adair Turner's review of pensions and Sir Michael Lyons's review of local government funding, both due to report before the end of the year, will provoke wide-ranging discussions about the future of savings and the fate of the council tax.

This summer, Labour intends to initiate a public debate on energy policy, which will consider whether the role of nuclear power stations should be increased.

At the same time the Government will consult voters about proposals to replace the road tax with a road pricing system, which would see motorists charged according to the distance they drive.

Hanging over the whole Parliament, meanwhile, will be the question of whether Labour will have to raise taxes again to fund its plans for the public services. Nobody knows whether the love-in between Mr Blair and the Chancellor will continue once the common goal of victory has gone, but the election result is likely to strengthen Gordon Brown's hand.

Most insiders believe that an understanding has been reached between the two on the future of the Government and of their own careers.

In return for the Chancellor's support, Mr Blair has signalled his intention to endorse Mr Brown to succeed him as Labour leader. The handover may come more quickly now.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blair; election; labour; madivan; opous; opus; quit; resignation; tonyblair; tories; uk; ukelection; yeoldeopus
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To: rogue yam

And they say Americans have no sense of the ironic!

I was not saying Americans are unfree. How many times do I have to say that I was showing how innocent points can be made to look devious.

If Britain suddenly banned all products from a certain nation, there would be people on here condemnung the socialist totalitarian state that is Britain. Most nations have things they are free to do that other are not.

In Norway there are probably groups of men laughing at the unfree Americans because they can hunt whales but US citizens cannot! :-)


581 posted on 05/06/2005 12:34:54 PM PDT by cooper72
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To: MadIvan

You're back!? Oh, crap. (Just joking. See #418.)


582 posted on 05/06/2005 12:35:33 PM PDT by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: MadIvan
I am a bit confused by some of the old timers on FR. What do you want to do? Freerepublic was nicer years ago, it really was. Most of the time we just had people that where like-minded. Because of our success we have brought in a wave of people from the bottom of the barrow that most likely came from AOL.

Freerepublic has changed, no matter where you go or what you do if you have open forums you will always get the bottom of the barrow come in to say stupid stuff.

What are you going to do run away whenever you are confronted by ignorance?
Good luck.

583 posted on 05/06/2005 12:35:48 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: MadIvan

I really enjoy the perspective you bring to FR, and hope you reconsider.

I beg you consider the pseudo Latin phrase "Illegitimi non carborundum est" on this issue.


584 posted on 05/06/2005 12:35:53 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: MadIvan
You'll likely get flamed awhile now, doin' a Jennifer on us and all ...

<ducking>

585 posted on 05/06/2005 12:38:36 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: MadIvan

We're glad you are staying. ;)


586 posted on 05/06/2005 12:40:48 PM PDT by MindyW
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To: MadIvan

Glad to see it.


587 posted on 05/06/2005 12:41:30 PM PDT by mikesmad
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To: dirtboy
The actual closet democrats usually lose it soon enough and out themselves with a little prodding.

I don't know, dirtboy. How about that poster MD4Bush? He was a democrat plant...and we may be learning his identity before too long.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1397763/posts
588 posted on 05/06/2005 12:41:36 PM PDT by baseballmom
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To: xJones

Thank you, x. I had a senior moment there and couldn't come up with the name.

They just don't make speechwriters like those three anymore.


589 posted on 05/06/2005 12:42:45 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: MadIvan

MadIvan,

I've seen that you've decided to stay, and I know I can't appologize for someone else's actions. I just want to say thank you for giving us some perspective on British politics, especially these last couple of days.

Britain has been an important ally of the US for more than 100 years (although I guess we didn't start off on the right foot, LOL:). Together our countries defeated the Kaiser, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, and Soviet Communism, and our alliance is bringing freedom to millions in the Middle East. Any country with that kind of track record has got something to be proud of. So, from this side of the pond, thank you, and don't let the jerks get to you.


590 posted on 05/06/2005 12:46:28 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Ignorance is the sole breeding ground for liberalism.)
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To: cooper72

OK, coop, you're just babbling now so I will leave you to it. As for the free speech thing, next time you're sober and bored, check into the Race Relations Acts and the arrest and imprisonment of one Mr. Tyndall. Say what he said there and you are decidedly less free than if you say the say things here (setting aside entirely whether it is logical or moral to espouse such opinions). There are many other examples, of course, but one is sufficient. Besides, I don't really believe you were sincere in your claims to free speech. I just think you are too ashamed to face the truth and so have chosen to lie instead. Bye.


591 posted on 05/06/2005 12:48:45 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: cooper72
I agree with you maybe I am not just putting it quite right but I agree the Scots as you say see The Conservative Party as anti Scottish.

The late night last night I think I am tending to assume people understand what I am saying rather than explaining it in full - sorry.

I think it would takes years if ever though to turn this around and make Scotland seats into possible gains.
592 posted on 05/06/2005 12:49:44 PM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME - And a Member of the Conservative Party)
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To: MadIvan

Great news!


593 posted on 05/06/2005 12:50:25 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: rogue yam

oops, sorry... "...say the same things here..."


594 posted on 05/06/2005 12:51:15 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: MadIvan

I'm so glad!

I've seen a lot of opuses since I've been posting on FR, but I've never seen such an outpouring of regret at someone leaving as I've seen on this thread! That's got to tell you something!


595 posted on 05/06/2005 12:51:58 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (The light at the end of the tunnel is most certainly not a train.)
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To: rogue yam
OK, coop, you're just babbling now so I will leave you to it. As for the free speech thing, next time you're sober and bored, check into the Race Relations Acts and the arrest and imprisonment of one Mr. Tyndall. Say what he said there and you are decidedly less free than if you say the say things here (setting aside entirely whether it is logical or moral to espouse such opinions). There are many other examples, of course, but one is sufficient. Besides, I don't really believe you were sincere in your claims to free speech. I just think you are too ashamed to face the truth and so have chosen to lie instead. Bye.

I see to defend your idea that the UK has less freedom of speech than the US, you use a Nazi from the British National Party. Unbelievable!!! Are you telling me that it is ok to incite racial hatred in the USA?

596 posted on 05/06/2005 12:53:02 PM PDT by cooper72
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To: baseballmom
Thanks for the heads-up on that one.

MD4Bush was apparently here on a specific mission, so he wasn't the average troll. Most of them eventually slip up with their postings, especially if you give them a bit o' prodding.

597 posted on 05/06/2005 12:54:50 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: snugs

I agree. I myself am a Scottish Conservative, and am unlikely to see a Tory Scotland anytime soon, but a revival is very much possible.

All it needs is a charismatic Tory leader and off we go... :-)


598 posted on 05/06/2005 12:55:02 PM PDT by cooper72
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To: zeugma; MadIvan
Well, I don't know what the heck happened to the rest of my previous post, but I wanted to join what is the overwhelming consensus here in expressing a desire to thank you for your previous contributions here at FreeRepublic, and to encourage you to continue to hang around. Your perspective from the other side of the pond is needed here.
599 posted on 05/06/2005 12:56:10 PM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: dirtboy
I don't agree. On rare occasions I have told someone they are NOT a true conservative, because I sincerely don't believe they are. Stifling debate couldn't be farther from my mind. My intention is honesty.

I am willing to have a good debate no matter what the ideology, but people should be honest to themselves and others as best they can be rearding their ideology. If they are something other than a consevative, they shouldn't be claiming they are.

Many people, even on talk radio, attempt to pass themselves off as conservative and aren't. Their misrepresentation is sometimes though not always, deliberate.

600 posted on 05/06/2005 12:58:10 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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