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Autocatakinesis, Evolution, and the Law of Maximum Entropy Production
Advances in Human Ecology, Vol. 6 ^ | 1997 | Rod Swenson

Posted on 05/04/2005 10:48:30 AM PDT by betty boop

Autocatakinetics, Evolution, and the Law of Maximum Entropy Production
By Rod Swenson

An Excerpt:
Ecological science addresses the relations of living things to their environments, and the study of human ecology the particular case of humans. There is an opposing tradition built into the foundations of modern science of separating living things, and, in particular, humans from their environments. Beginning with Descartes’ dualistic world view, this tradition found its way into biology by way of Kant, and evolutionary theory through Darwin, and manifests itself in two main postulates of incommensurability, the incommensurability between psychology and physics (the “first postulate of incommensurability”), and between biology and physics (the “second postulate of incommensurability”).

The idea of the incommensurability between living things and their environments gained what seemed strong scientific backing with Boltzmann’s view of the second law of thermodynamics as a law of disorder according to which the transformation of disorder to order was said to be infinitely improbable. If this were true, and until very recently it has been taken to be so, then the whole of life and its evolution becomes one improbable event after another. The laws of physics, on this view, predict a world that should be becoming more disordered, while terrestrial evolution is characterized by active order production. The world, on this view, seemed to consist of two incommensurable, or opposing “rivers,” the river of physics which flowed down to disorder, and the river of biology, psychology, and culture, which “flowed up,” working, it seemed, to produce as much order as possible.

As a consequence of Boltzmann’s view of the second law, evolutionary theorists, right up to present times, have held onto the belief that “organic evolution was a negation of physical evolution,” and that biology and culture work somehow to “defy” the laws of physics (Dennett, 1995). With its definition of evolution as an exclusively biological process, Darwinism separates both biology and culture from their universal, or ecological, contexts, and advertises the Cartesian postulates of incommensurability at its core, postulates that are inimical to the idea of ecological science. An ecological science, by definition, assumes contextualization or embeddedness, and as its first line of business wants to know what the nature of it is. This requires a universal, or general theory of evolution which can uncover and explicate the relationship of the two otherwise incommensurable rivers, and put the active ordering of biological, and cultural systems, of terrestrial evolution as a time-asymmetric process, back into the world.

The law of maximum entropy production, when coupled with the balance equation of the second law, and the general facts of autocatakinetics [see below], provides the nomological basis for such a theory, and shows why, rather than living in a world where order production is infinitely improbable, we live in and are products of a world, in effect, that can be expected to produce as much order as it can. It shows how the two otherwise incommensurable rivers, physics on the one hand, and biology, psychology, and culture on the other, are part of the same universal process and how the fecundity principle, and the intentional dynamics it entails, are special cases of an active, end-directed world opportunistically filling dynamical dimensions of space-time as a consequence of universal law. The epistemic dimension, the urgency towards existence in Leibniz’s terms, characterizing the intentional dynamics of living things and expressed in the fecundity principle, and the process of evolution writ large as a single planetary process, is thus not only commensurable with first, or universal, principles, but a direct manifestation of them.

The view presented here thus provides a principled basis for putting living things, including humans, back in the world, and recognizing living things and their environments as single irreducible systems. It provides the basis for contextualizing the deep and difficult questions concerning the place of humans as both productions and producers of an active and dynamic process of terrestrial evolution, which as a consequence of the present globalization of culture is changing the face of the planet at a rate which seems to be without precedent over geological time. Of course, answers to questions such as these always lead to more questions, but such is the nature of the epistemic process we call life.


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KEYWORDS: autocatakinesis; cartesiansplit; crevolist; darwin; dennett; descartes; ecology; entropy; evolutionarytheory; kant; naturalselection; randommutation; secondlaw
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To: betty boop; theFIRMbss; mlc9852
This was such a strange "conversation?" that I went to theFIRMbss' Freeper profile and "in forum".

Evidently he prefers pictures over words, lyrics over essays and seems to have a preference for "pop tarts", music, etc.

At least that's the impression I get from your posting history, theFIRMbss!

201 posted on 05/14/2005 8:30:49 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: woofie; Alamo-Girl; marron
Life is a autocatakinetic system...and then you die

"Life" is the opposite of "die."

Of the two types of autocatakinetic systems, only one can survive the withdrawal of the "heat source" (energy input), persistently over fairly long time frames.

But I digress.

"Die" pertains to the material aspect of the living being of any description. Given that Life does not appear to be a material thing (at least science has not isolated or measured it yet), it may not be taken for granted that it is expunged with the passing of the physical body.

This is the message propagated to mankind by means of the Scriptures, that is the Holy Bible of Judeo-Christian testimony. Its basis is revelation and reason -- both divine at their source.

JMHO FWIW. Good night, woofie.

202 posted on 05/15/2005 12:16:16 AM PDT by betty boop (If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking. -- Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Alamo-Girl; theFIRMbss

Well thanks for cluing me in here, Alamo-Girl. Indeed, that is a most interesting profile. I hope the dude will find a way to outgrow it in due course, for his own sake....


203 posted on 05/15/2005 12:19:39 AM PDT by betty boop (If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking. -- Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: betty boop

Dam, with a screen name like Betty Boop cant ya just say boop boop a doop or something a bit simpler than this?


204 posted on 05/15/2005 12:22:47 AM PDT by woofie
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To: betty boop
>Given that Life does not appear to be a material thing (at least science has not isolated or measured it yet), it may not be taken for granted that it is expunged with the passing of the physical body

Wolfram's "new" science
probably will modify
all these discussions.

Until pop culture
makes these new concepts common
(like what happened with

chaos and systems
built around complexity)
these "conversations"

just re-hash concepts
everybody pretty much
currently believes.

But if you enjoy
these topics, I bet you'd like
to read Wolfram's book.

205 posted on 05/15/2005 11:20:34 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: mlc9852

....according to which the transformation of disorder to order was said to be infinitely improbable....

Thus opening the field for the infinite improbability drive and the Heart Of Gold.

This piece also allows for cultural evolution as in Christian evolution or the changes in Christianity over the years. We are now wittnessing a bout of Islamic evolution, the outcome of which is in doubt. As Darwin said, unsuccesgul selection fails to endure.


206 posted on 05/15/2005 11:31:37 AM PDT by bert (Rename Times Square......... Rudy Square.)
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To: theFIRMbss; Alamo-Girl
But if you enjoy these topics, I bet you'd like to read Wolfram's book.

Not only do i own this book, but I have actually read it. I consider it an astounding, astonishing, and magnificent work -- and of enormous educational value to me personally. The main narrative is enormously innovative and provocative. And you can just get lost for days in the end notes.... :^)

Thanks so much for writing, theFIRMbss!

207 posted on 05/15/2005 2:28:26 PM PDT by betty boop (If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking. -- Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: betty boop
>The main narrative is enormously innovative and provocative

The notion that "space"
is a "network" and "matter"
versus "non-matter"

simply constitutes
characteristics of the
interconnections

between network nodes
to my mind renders concepts
like "entropy" and

"thermodynamics"
as if not obsolete then
at least old fashioned.

The words are only
a method of describing
our thinking about

reality, as
are equations built around
differentials. But

Wolfram's new approach
of algorithmic thinking
promises to do

as much as old ways,
but also provide new paths
for new descriptions.

(That is why -- sorry --
I responded to the talk
built around old words

with the bunny pic.
I generally think that
everyone's been through

the old discussions
so many times, the rabbit
at least makes folks smile.

I hope this content
makes up for my two attempts
to get a few laughs.)

208 posted on 05/15/2005 2:50:25 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: betty boop
"Darwinism has no observables by which it can address or account for the directed nature of Evolution."

Stephen Jay Gould used to make a very obvious point that there is no sense of direction to evolution. If evolution were directed we would have long ago evolved out of diseases that regularly kill us. Evolution is the result of populations of species reacting to stresses. If being short is an advantage we become short (or rather the survivors tend to be short), if being tall is an advantage the survivors tend to be tall. If height is neutral, we see both tall and short people among the survivors.

209 posted on 05/15/2005 3:02:45 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: theFIRMbss; Alamo-Girl; woofie
I hope this content makes up for my two attempts to get a few laughs.)

It more than does, theFIRMbss. Wolfram has written a truly "unsettling" work -- unsettling, that is, to the presently well-established, thus conventional modes of thought. My huge takeaway from this brilliant book is that there is a certain preeminence to considerations of "form," as mathematically describable, in the understanding of universal nature. He makes "patterning effects" vivid, and relates them to the operations of very simple instructions which seem to have universal application.

In short, I think he has written a world-class book. Whether or not one agrees with every conclusion he draws, it is a marvelous and rewarding experience to simply read him. He is excavating new and valuable ground here....

I take it you like his approach/appreciate his work, too, theFIRMbss. So we share something in common here.

Thanks so much for writing!

210 posted on 05/15/2005 6:23:27 PM PDT by betty boop (If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking. -- Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: muir_redwoods; Alamo-Girl; theFIRMbss; woofie; marron; Ronzo; PatrickHenry; js1138; ...
Stephen Jay Gould used to make a very obvious point that there is no sense of direction to evolution.

Great point, muir_redwoods. The Darwinist conception of evolution scrupulously avoids both the problem of "beginning" and the problem of "end" (that is, of purpose). It jumps into the water "midstream," as it were, asking no questions about the source of the flowing river, nor of its eventual destination. Thus the true derivation of any reliable "sense of direction" is rendered impossible, effectively on principle.

Which is why I continue to suppose that Darwinist evolutionary theory -- classical or "neo" -- is a flattened, reduced view of reality that willingly loses or sacrifices all details of actual reality that do not fit into the scheme of its (flattened, reduced) presuppositions. Most of the details of real life get leached out of consideration altogether in such a "regime" of thought.... Or so it seems to me. FWIW.

And yet it seems clear the observable pattern of universal, physical evolution already gives the lie to this line of reasoning, or of method.... For the Universe seems to have had a beginning; and a beginning implies an end (or goal). This is simple, basic Logic 101.

Thank you so very much for your very fine post, muir_redwoods!

211 posted on 05/15/2005 6:46:31 PM PDT by betty boop (If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking. -- Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: betty boop; theFIRMbss
I'm so very glad to see that we dialogue! And not just dialogue, but a common ground. Count me as another who is very interested in being open to Wolfram's new kind of science!
212 posted on 05/15/2005 9:54:37 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
Which is why I continue to suppose that Darwinist evolutionary theory -- classical or "neo" -- is a flattened, reduced view of reality that willingly loses or sacrifices all details of actual reality that do not fit into the scheme of its (flattened, reduced) presuppositions. Most of the details of real life get leached out of consideration altogether in such a "regime" of thought.... Or so it seems to me. FWIW.

Indeed. The theory is incomplete - that is its first problem. The second problem, which follows from the first, is that "randomness" does not work as a primary cause of speciation (information, autonomy, semiosis, complexity, intelligence).

213 posted on 05/15/2005 10:00:15 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; All
>Count me as another who is very interested in being open to Wolfram's new kind of science!

Here's another book
more nuts and bolts than Wolfram's
about how "mind space"

is quite separate
from "outer" reality,
and how we "create"

our understanding
based on processed perceptions.
It's built around sight,

but the last chapters
generalize to thinking
overall. Just like

Wolfram's book, this guy
writes amazingly clear on
stuff that's pretty dense.

I re-read this book
once a year or so, always
finding stuff I missed.

214 posted on 05/16/2005 7:18:25 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss; betty boop
Thank you so much for book recommendation! I've added it to my "wish list" on Amazon - and will be placing my order for the next round of reading soon.

For me, it is particularly curious that our vision and mind are limited to four seemingly arbitrary dimensions (3 space and 1 time) - when our math and physics suggest there are more of both.

215 posted on 05/16/2005 7:53:18 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: mlc9852
This one is tough for me, too. But I was noticing an article tn the paper about an experiment in which Canaries were raised in isolation and taught alternate tunes. But when spring came, they sang the canary nating call. I do wonder how DNA controls or predicts this.
216 posted on 05/16/2005 8:00:09 AM PDT by cookcounty ("We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts" ---Abe Lincoln, 1858.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
> it is particularly curious that our vision and mind are limited to four seemingly arbitrary dimensions (3 space and 1 time)

The mechanisms
our brain uses to make "sight"
seem to be the same

consciousness uses
to create our sense of touch
(and possibly sound

and aroma, too)
(as well as obscure senses
like balance and deep

body sensations).
All these different sense modes can
be thought of -- kinda --

as "dimensions," and
the fact that our brain handles
such diverse data

in similar ways,
kinda supports that strange view.
Could be our senses --

all our senses -- are
God's way (or nature's way) of
letting consciousness

deal with multiple
dimensions through a "filter"
of one consciousness . . .

217 posted on 05/16/2005 8:15:00 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss; betty boop
All these different sense modes can be thought of -- kinda -- as "dimensions," and the fact that our brain handles such diverse data in similar ways, kinda supports that strange view. Could be our senses -- all our senses -- are God's way (or nature's way) of letting consciousness deal with multiple dimensions through a "filter" of one consciousness . . .

Fascinating conjecture, theFIRMbss! I'm pinging betty boop for her thoughts also.

I'm not as keen on a correlation of sense to dimension as the notion that the combination of the senses filtered through consciousness enables (or alternatively, blocks) - a person's awareness of multiple dimensions. Food for meditation this afternoon... Thanks!

218 posted on 05/16/2005 10:52:24 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Lurkers: Oops, my bad. The first paragraph above was a quote from theFIRMbss and should have been indented and italicized. Sorry about that...


219 posted on 05/16/2005 10:53:31 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: theFIRMbss; Alamo-Girl
all our senses -- are
God's way (or nature's way) of
letting consciousness

deal with multiple
dimensions through a "filter"
of one consciousness . . .

With Alamo-Girl, I too find your conjecture fascinating, intriguing, theFIRMbss. Consciousness indeed seems to have the character of a "filter." On one level, it mediates incoming data from the "outside" environment, as presented by the various reports of our human "sensorium": sight, hearing, taste, touch, smell. At another level, it correlates and integrates such data towards ends that are meaningful to -- and actionable by -- the human person.

But where does the unconscious fit into a model like this? It seems to me the conscious mind unaided has very limited prospects of becoming specifically aware of the dimensions in and by which it is constituted. We rarely think at all about 3+1D reality (3 space, 1 time) as such. And yet if universal fields are operational in our Universe, we must recognize that what we're dealing with is something utterly timeless within the categories of our 4D block; for effectively fields are universals -- pertaining to all regions of space and time simultaneously, possibly including imaginary or conceptual space. As such they may provide the unifying context in which the universal evolutionary process unfolds.

My hypothesis is that the unconscious mind "knows" about this universal context. And the corollary would be that human knowledge mainly consists of a process of "dredging up the contents" of the unconscious mind (fundamentally rooted to the ground of reality via soul and mind), and then finding the language to express such insights to others. This would be an example of "successful communication."

Students of Plato will find the great master is present in the foregoing analysis. Plato called this faculty of direct knowing "awareness," which he seems to describe as a latent quality that may or may not express in an actual human existence. Christians might recognize the Eternal Presence of the Logos with us from the beginning, until the end: the Alpha and the Omega. In both cases, it seems to me a volitional issue has been raised.

Since this line of reasoning seems to direct us to the realm of human will and desire, sensory perception would seem to have a limited contribution to make in this scenario.

Anyhoot, i may be rambling far away from your intention, TheFIRMbss. If so, please do feel free to drop a butterfly net on me, or otherwise reel me in....

Thanks so much for writing!

220 posted on 05/16/2005 6:08:32 PM PDT by betty boop (God alone is Guarantor of an intelligible Universe.)
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