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To: Alamo-Girl
> it is particularly curious that our vision and mind are limited to four seemingly arbitrary dimensions (3 space and 1 time)

The mechanisms
our brain uses to make "sight"
seem to be the same

consciousness uses
to create our sense of touch
(and possibly sound

and aroma, too)
(as well as obscure senses
like balance and deep

body sensations).
All these different sense modes can
be thought of -- kinda --

as "dimensions," and
the fact that our brain handles
such diverse data

in similar ways,
kinda supports that strange view.
Could be our senses --

all our senses -- are
God's way (or nature's way) of
letting consciousness

deal with multiple
dimensions through a "filter"
of one consciousness . . .

217 posted on 05/16/2005 8:15:00 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss; betty boop
All these different sense modes can be thought of -- kinda -- as "dimensions," and the fact that our brain handles such diverse data in similar ways, kinda supports that strange view. Could be our senses -- all our senses -- are God's way (or nature's way) of letting consciousness deal with multiple dimensions through a "filter" of one consciousness . . .

Fascinating conjecture, theFIRMbss! I'm pinging betty boop for her thoughts also.

I'm not as keen on a correlation of sense to dimension as the notion that the combination of the senses filtered through consciousness enables (or alternatively, blocks) - a person's awareness of multiple dimensions. Food for meditation this afternoon... Thanks!

218 posted on 05/16/2005 10:52:24 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: theFIRMbss; Alamo-Girl
all our senses -- are
God's way (or nature's way) of
letting consciousness

deal with multiple
dimensions through a "filter"
of one consciousness . . .

With Alamo-Girl, I too find your conjecture fascinating, intriguing, theFIRMbss. Consciousness indeed seems to have the character of a "filter." On one level, it mediates incoming data from the "outside" environment, as presented by the various reports of our human "sensorium": sight, hearing, taste, touch, smell. At another level, it correlates and integrates such data towards ends that are meaningful to -- and actionable by -- the human person.

But where does the unconscious fit into a model like this? It seems to me the conscious mind unaided has very limited prospects of becoming specifically aware of the dimensions in and by which it is constituted. We rarely think at all about 3+1D reality (3 space, 1 time) as such. And yet if universal fields are operational in our Universe, we must recognize that what we're dealing with is something utterly timeless within the categories of our 4D block; for effectively fields are universals -- pertaining to all regions of space and time simultaneously, possibly including imaginary or conceptual space. As such they may provide the unifying context in which the universal evolutionary process unfolds.

My hypothesis is that the unconscious mind "knows" about this universal context. And the corollary would be that human knowledge mainly consists of a process of "dredging up the contents" of the unconscious mind (fundamentally rooted to the ground of reality via soul and mind), and then finding the language to express such insights to others. This would be an example of "successful communication."

Students of Plato will find the great master is present in the foregoing analysis. Plato called this faculty of direct knowing "awareness," which he seems to describe as a latent quality that may or may not express in an actual human existence. Christians might recognize the Eternal Presence of the Logos with us from the beginning, until the end: the Alpha and the Omega. In both cases, it seems to me a volitional issue has been raised.

Since this line of reasoning seems to direct us to the realm of human will and desire, sensory perception would seem to have a limited contribution to make in this scenario.

Anyhoot, i may be rambling far away from your intention, TheFIRMbss. If so, please do feel free to drop a butterfly net on me, or otherwise reel me in....

Thanks so much for writing!

220 posted on 05/16/2005 6:08:32 PM PDT by betty boop (God alone is Guarantor of an intelligible Universe.)
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