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How would a pharmicist know whether or not the prescription is needed for medical reasons? Sure, certainly maybe alot of them are strictly for birth control...but I know of examples when a girl needs these pills to help "shut down" or "regulate" her plumbing for medical reasons. Doesnt seem so easy as simply denying someone a prescription...
1 posted on 05/03/2005 5:33:18 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr

I had a gyno done at Planned Parenthood once. I shouted at the woman to stop offering me birth control because that's not why I was there *lol*


2 posted on 05/03/2005 5:34:37 AM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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Should a pharmacist's moral views trump a woman's reproductive rights?

It's the new moral paradigm: Your vocation trumps your principles. That is why lawyers, journalists, and politicians can be lying scumbags while claiming to be moral people. The company needs you to fudge some numbers? Impugn someone's record to make them easier to fire? Tell a few lies to employees and customers? Don't worry, you won't be held accountable, it's your job.

There was a time that even someone with authority over you telling you to do a wrong thing did not remove your responsibility to do what was right. But now anyone, even a total stranger, can command your moral principles to suit themselves and you aren't responsible.

3 posted on 05/03/2005 5:44:40 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (</i>)
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Sexually immoral people and their enablers everywhere are "Shocked" and "Furious" that anyone in America would dare to stand up to them and tell them....

"No"!

"I will not do what you demand..because I am opposed to
it on moral grounds"...

Planned Parent Hood (aka Murder Inc.) is "SHOCKED"..I tell you.."SHOCKED"...

The immoral ones then appeal to their black robed thugs to
hurdle any objections by the majority of Americans...

Sex outside of marriage is destroying the family and as a direct result...America...



You can just about count on the libs to come up with some wild ass of an objection or some obscure appeal based on a one in a zillion case where a life was in danger blah blah blah...

In order to get 'their' judges behind them....

At least the pharmacists in this case seem to be fighting back..

God bless them and keep them.

imo


6 posted on 05/03/2005 6:05:41 AM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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This guy should not be a pharmicist, plain and simple. It's fine if he has objections to whataver he wants to have an objection to. Logic would dictate you wouldn't choose a line of work that would so often directly conflict with your beliefs.


7 posted on 05/03/2005 6:08:19 AM PDT by Bones75
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I'm glad you posted this already...because I was gonna. I read it this morning in my copy of the Red Star.

I understand a pharmacist's moral reluctance to fill a prescription like that...but it's really not his call to make.

OTOH, if the pharmacist looked at the prescription and at the woman's allergies, etc on file at the pharmacy and said "I don't feel comfortable filling this because it may injure the customer", I'd agree with that.

Maybe this pharmacist needs to find a store where he can feel comfortable in his personal beliefs insteading of imposing those beliefs on someone else.


9 posted on 05/03/2005 6:13:07 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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-"I was shocked," Gilbert said. "I had no idea what to do."-

Good grief, just find another drugstore, duh. There's one on every corner.


11 posted on 05/03/2005 6:27:46 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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"I was shocked," Gilbert said. "I had no idea what to do."

Uh, call another pharmacy?

13 posted on 05/03/2005 6:32:02 AM PDT by SuziQ (988)
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"How would a pharmicist know whether or not the prescription is needed for medical reasons?"

The pharmacists don't need to know if it's for medical reasons or not--it's none of their business. This sets a bad precedent. What if it's against your religion to sell liquor, cigarettes or nudie magazines? You shouldn't take the job if the duties of that job violate your moral or religious beliefs.

16 posted on 05/03/2005 6:47:06 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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I used to feel like many of the posters here about this issue - that its none of the pharmacist's business when filling a prescription.

That was when I thought, like most people, that birth control pills somehow prevent conception.

The fact, as I understand it, is that birth control pills do nothing to prevent conception, but instead prevent the fertilized egg from implanting into the uterus.

While that may sound like a difference in semantics, in reality the pill is in effect, a very early-term abortion. The DNA of the parents has already combined to form a new being, albeit a very tiny one.

So, I've come over to the other side on this issue. Birth control pills are not the same animal as condoms or allergy medicine.

As a hypothetical, if euthenasia suddenly became legal, would it not be permissable for a pharmacist to refuse to provide the means to enable that?
19 posted on 05/03/2005 7:04:31 AM PDT by babyface00
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So true. My wife has not run into that situation but, her need for birth control is more for regulation and control of the effects of PCOS. But we also use it as our contraception.


20 posted on 05/03/2005 7:08:43 AM PDT by kx9088
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all these comments about "it's not the pharmacists place to make the call"

what is the point in having a pharmacists in the first place then? just have the doctor's or a machine dole out the drugs.

i'm on the fence on this one. if there is a place for pharmacists in today's society then he should be allowed to have a conscience and people are free to choose another - just as they are with doctors. but maybe there is no place for a pharmacist in today's society.


26 posted on 05/03/2005 7:18:54 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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I think this is a made up controversy in order to be able to force ANY person to submit to the will of the bith control people. If you can be forced to issue a perscription then the natural extension is to be forced to TAKE the perscription.


30 posted on 05/03/2005 7:19:45 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Mandating that a pharmacist be required to supply the pill or the morning after pill opens up a precedent that is kind of scary.

What is to stop the government from saying "All OBYGYN's must preform abortions, after all it is a medical procedure and their individual morals don't apply to their job!"

Heck I once worked at a place where they wanted me to sign a document basically saying that I was supposed to do what ever they wanted, even if it violated moral ethics. Later found out they liked to do industrial espionage (I never signed the paper).
39 posted on 05/03/2005 7:32:39 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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How would a pharmicist know whether or not the prescription is needed for medical reasons?

He doesn't need to know.

Doesnt seem so easy as simply denying someone a prescription...

She can go elsewhere. In a free society, no one has an obligation to sell any product. They don't need a reason.

45 posted on 05/03/2005 7:40:45 AM PDT by Protagoras (Evolution is amazing... I wonder who invented it?)
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This whole thing is nonsense... the number of pharmacies refusing birth control is inately miniscule.... face it... when's the last time you walked into one that didn't have condoms?

I hardly doubt you are finding a rash of women who can't get their pills... but of course the media's going to make it seem like that.


71 posted on 05/03/2005 8:29:53 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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"Should a pharmacist's moral views trump a woman's reproductive rights?"

How about:

"Should a woman's reproductive choices trump a pharmacist's moral views."

By the way, this issue is far less about "the pill" and far more about an impending battle over "the morning after pill."

There's a tremendous difference between birth control and post conception abortion by pill. The abortion crowd is already putting the spin on this to have legislation passed that makes it illegal for a pharmacist to refuse to sell "the morning after pill."


74 posted on 05/03/2005 8:31:43 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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Should a pharmacist's moral views trump a woman's reproductive rights?

Should a woman's "reproductive rights," which exist not in the Constitution but only in the fevered mind of judicial tyrants, trump a health care worker's God-given right not to be forced to participate in the destruction of innocent human life?

Postfertilization (early abortion) Effects of Oral Contraceptives and Their Relationship to Informed Consent

AMA VOTES AGAINST LETTING WOMEN KNOW "THE PILL" IS ABORTIFACIENT

Postfertilization (early abortion) Effect of Hormonal Emergency Contraception

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78 posted on 05/03/2005 8:34:23 AM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel (A kinder, gentler Polycarp)
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The elephant in the living room is RU486 and the "morning after pill." These "medicines" have pushed abortion into the pharmacists hands. I don't blame them for not participating in abortion.

Anyone who says that a pharmacist or shop HAS to offer any particular product does not belong on a conservative forum. It is a matter of individual freedom. They should be able to stock whatever they want. Let the market decide.

At the same time, if an individual is working for a company and refuses to sell a product; the company has every right to fire them!


94 posted on 05/03/2005 8:48:42 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (Our people perish through lack of wisdom, but they are content in their ignorance.)
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The specific formulation was an abortifacient, as most are these days.

It's a far cry from your Mom's birth-control pills, which were also useful for regulation.


97 posted on 05/03/2005 8:50:29 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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**'I won't fill it for moral reasons,'88

God bless this pharmacist!


98 posted on 05/03/2005 8:51:03 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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