[Chi-townChief]

For some reason, I though that Goat sales were tanking and you could pick up one fairly reasonably. So much for that idea. As discussed previous, I'd like to find a 2-door rear-drive V-8 to replace my old Firebird but the only thing I see is this or the Mustang which is a bit small and "young" for me. I was out looking yesterday morning and cars, in general, are very disappointing.

[KateatRFM]

GM has announced that The Racers Group will be campaigning a version of this GTO in the Grand American series; they claim it is the first racing use of the car, which is not exactly true -- two GTOs have been campaigning in the Speed World Challenge GT class since last fall, one of them by Chili Pepper Racing. These two are prepared by Holden of Australia, which may be what GM means by saying TRG's first off the line with the GTO.

[fieldmarshaldj]

I think practically all post-early 1970s cars are largely hideous, all look alike and have no "soul."

[Pete'sWife]

Very nice.

No car, however, will ever replace the '67 GTO with a 400 cu. in. fire-breather.

They can fool around with the exhaust system (on the new one) all they want, but nothing - NOTHING - can replace cubic inches when it comes to exhaust note.

The new GTO is "techno" music. The old Goat is a symphony.

[rabidralph]

Pictures, please. I am invoking the Coulter rule for any vehicle thread that features cool cars, trucks or motorcycles.

[Petronski]

[BigBadWolf]

I like the beefier retro design of the new Mustang. At least when you see one you know what it is. This new GTO looks like everything else Pontiac makes...boring.

[Khurkris]

(this is not my car)

RONNY AND THE DAYTONAS lyrics - "GTO"
(John Wilkin)
Little GTO, you're really lookin' fine
Three deuces and a four-speed and a 389
Listen to her tachin' up now, listen to her why-ee-eye-ine
C'mon and turn it on, wind it up, blow it out GTO

Wa-wa, (mixed with "Yeah, yeah, little GTO") wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa
(mixed with "Yeah, yeah, little GTO")
Wa-wa, (mixed with "Yeah, yeah, little GTO") wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa
(mixed with "Yeah, yeah, little GTO")
Wa-wa (mixed with "Ahhh, little GTO") wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa

You oughta see her on a road course or a quarter mile
This little modified Pon-Pon has got plenty of style
She beats the gassers and the rail jobs, really drives 'em why-ee-eye-ild
C'mon and turn it on, wind it up, blow it out GTO

Wa-wa, (mixed with "Yeah, yeah, little GTO") wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa
(mixed with "Yeah, yeah, little GTO")
Wa-wa, (mixed with "Yeah, yeah, little GTO") wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa
(mixed with "Yeah, yeah, little GTO")
Wa-wa (mixed with "Ahhh, little GTO") wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa

Gonna save all my money (turnin' it on, blowin' it out) and buy a GTO (turnin' it on, blowin' it out)
Get a helmet and a roll bar (turnin' it on, blowin' it out) and I'll be ready to go
(turnin' it on, blowin' it out)
Take it out to Pomona (turnin' it on, blowin' it out) and let 'em know (turnin' it on,blowin' it out), yeah, yeah That I'm the coolest thing around
Little buddy, gonna shut you down
When I turn it on, wind it up, blow it out GTO

Wa-wa, (mixed with "Yeah, yeah, little GTO") wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa
(mixed with "Yeah, yeah, little GTO")
Wa-wa, (mixed with "Yeah, yeah, little GTO") wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa
(mixed with "Yeah, yeah, little GTO")
Wa-wa (mixed with "Ahhh, little GTO") wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa
[Fade]

[M. Espinola]

[biblewonk]

Up yer alley ping.

[Cowman]

the new GTO is put together in Australia and has a definite foreign-car feel.

I wonder if Max will have a new pursuit special?

[SVTCobra03]

They should of redesigned the Trans-Am instead of creating a really ugly GTO.

[reagan_fanatic]

Good Lord. GM is doomed.

[6SJ7]

For over-the-top 1970's insanity, I like the Plymouth Superbird. A cross between a coupe and an F86 sabre jet.

[newgeezer]

Giving it a handsome retro-style 1960s GTO body would have caused excessive wind noise and fuel-robbing aerodynamic drag.

1. The retro-style 1960s Mustang body makes the new GTO look like a warmed-over Cavalier. Does it have "excessive wind noise"?
2. Does any 6-liter GTO buyer give a rip about "fuel-robbing" anything?

Obviously, the GTO is aimed at serious drivers who are not so concerned about such things as what Car And Driver calls their "Gotta Have It factor." (The GTO beat the Mustang in their head-to-head competition until they applied that 'test.') But, I must admit, when the new GTO arrived, it was a letdown. No wonder Ford profited a billion dollars last quarter while GM lost that amount.

[Spruce]

Putting the GTO badge on this boring, over-priced, POS is a travesty.

It would seem there is only one person designing cars these days. The thing looks just like every other car to come out of detroit/Japan in the last 10 years.

Now when they come out with a 350+hp V8 shoe-horned into a no-frills coupe for under 12k I might consider the rebirth of the muscle car.

Afraid this 'GTO' is going to fail, bigtime.

[the invisib1e hand]

girlie-man car alert.

[tutstar]

ping

[martin_fierro]

the new GTO is put together in Australia

The Blunder From Down Under.

[Kokojmudd]

I dunno about this new GTO. Seems to me you can pick up a low milage C5 Corvette for less than 20k and a very nice C4 Corvette for less than 10k......either one has a lot more style and class than the import goat. Heck for 32k you might be able to find a "real GTO" in reasonable condition.

[AgentEcho]

GM just cancelled the Zeta platform that was to accomodate the next generation GTO as well as the new Camaro and Buick Velite (which to me looks like a Toyota Solara.

Where GM models stand on inventory, sales

Inventories, sales and incentives for some General Motors' cars and trucks:
Vehicle	Days supply1	Year-to-date sales	Chg. from last year	Current offers
Buick
Buick Rendezvous SUV	93	13,075	-23.3%	$4,500
Buick LaCrosse sedan	95	19,281	NA2	$1,500
Buick Terraza minivan	149	3,286	NA2	$2,000
Individual models
Saab 9-5 sedan/wagon	216	1,207	-31.3%	$349/month lease offer
Chevy SSR pickup	134	2,703	-11.9%	$1,000
Chevy Monte Carlo sedan	86	9,773	-29.6%	$4,000
Hummer H2	58	4,313	-31.5%	$1,000
Minivans
Saturn Relay	129	4,076	NA2	$1,250 cash back
Chevy Uplander/Venture	78/77	17,331	3.3%	$2,000/$4,000
Pontiac Montana	160	5,205	-39.8%	$4,000
Trucks
Chevy TrailBlazer SUV	85	47,558	-22.9%	$4,000
Chevy Avalanche SUV	101	15,006	-22.4%	$3,000
Chevy Tahoe SUV	108	32,854	-22.5%	$4,000
Chevy Suburban	128	18,234	-29.2%	$3,500 cash back
GMC Yukon	117	15,127	-26.1%	$4,000
1 — Number of days needed to sell all vehicles in inventory, based on the selling rate in March. The industry average for March is 69 days. 2 — These vehicles were not on sale this time last year. Sources: Automotive News, AutoData, GM BuyPower Web site