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To: Chi-townChief

Very nice.

No car, however, will ever replace the '67 GTO with a 400 cu. in. fire-breather.

They can fool around with the exhaust system (on the new one) all they want, but nothing - NOTHING - can replace cubic inches when it comes to exhaust note.

The new GTO is "techno" music. The old Goat is a symphony.


4 posted on 05/02/2005 4:36:22 AM PDT by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: Pete'sWife

Quite frankly, I don't see a lot of difference between the '04 and '05 designs.


9 posted on 05/02/2005 4:39:48 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Pete'sWife; Chi-townChief
..no car, however, will ever replace the '67 GTO with a 400 cu. in. fire-breather...

...as someone who still pines for his much-missed '68 rubbernose convertible, I hear what you're saying. But this new car is so much better, and so much faster, there's really no comparison. Cheers, Byron

18 posted on 05/02/2005 4:47:41 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Pete'sWife
There isn't THAT much of a difference between 6.0 and 6.6-liter engines. Both are/were considered small-blocks. Any difference in sound would be a result of the cam, and the new Vette-sourced engine breathes well enough not to need a radical cam to make big horsepower numbers, especially with the MPI fuel system. Performance-wise, the new GTO cleans the old one's clock. That said, the new car is a toaster compared to the old one:


76 posted on 05/02/2005 6:52:46 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Pete'sWife
"No car, however, will ever replace the '67 GTO with a 400 cu. in. fire-breather. They can fool around with the exhaust system (on the new one) all they want, but nothing - NOTHING - can replace cubic inches when it comes to exhaust note. The new GTO is "techno" music. The old Goat is a symphony."

Spoken like a "true" Goat Aficionado and "Authority!"

Only "one" who has owned/ridden-in (or even been around "back then") can really appreciate "la difference."

The "sound" of a (Real) GOAT, is akin to a Harley (who, by the way, considered trying to patent that sound) and there is NOT/will NEVER be, a duplicate--unless those IDIOTS at GM, ever came to their senses and decided to design and build a replica of the original GTO's; including similar engines, pipes, headers, and all!

Trying to compare today's (Australia-made-ugally-generic-looking) GTO, with the "real thing," is like comparing a "velvet painting" to a Picasso.

QUICK: WHICH ONE IS THE GTO?


Top Left: Honda Top Right: Mazda Center: GTO Botton: Mustang

MY 67 GOAT WHICH I PICKED UP AT THE FACTORY IN PONTIAC MICHIGAN WHEN I RETURNED FROM NAM



WITH REGARDS TO PERFORMANCE: Here are some stats:


As there is ONLY a .1 difference in 0-60 between my 67 and this 2005, I would venture to posit that in my “heyday” (long time ago) it more often than not, had to do with the driver, than the car and I was pretty good at “banging the gears!”

VERDICT:

I would take one if offered for FREE. Spending good money on something like this? I’ll leave that up to the Gen X and wannabe, has-beens!

127 posted on 05/02/2005 1:02:02 PM PDT by An American Patriot ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME"-- the opportunity to get the Hell out of here! Bye Bye VT- Hello, VA)
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