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Secret gay encounters of black men could be raising women's infection rate
SFGATE ^ | 1 May 2005 | Jason B. Johnson

Posted on 05/01/2005 9:04:33 AM PDT by csvset

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To: mabelkitty

That's a good point. I know the guys I live near hate any kind of flaming gay behavior. They say it makes all of them look bad.

But it is true we do not stigmatize all straight men when stupid fraternity boys date rape women. We can differentiate mature behavior from immature. I hope we can do that with other groups.


81 posted on 05/01/2005 5:03:39 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: jocon307

yes that article is even handed.

It just states some gays thought they were being discrimintated against, quite understandable.

However considerng somewhere between 6-15% of all gays are either HIV positve or have AIDS, I think the 'discrimination' is warrented.


84 posted on 05/01/2005 5:37:17 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm)
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To: pa mom

Actually, we stigmatize all Frat Boys. And all Nascar fans. It's a subset, but it's the same thing.


85 posted on 05/01/2005 5:38:15 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: rapture76

A fair question, which looks radical on the surface.


86 posted on 05/01/2005 5:39:18 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm)
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To: csvset

odd how they do not mention jail time...


87 posted on 05/01/2005 5:39:32 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: mabelkitty

LOL! Now you are in trouble, the NASCAR guys are coming for you.

What I mean is that those guys don't make us think all straight men are bad. But the promiscuous wackos in the gay community make us think all gay men are bad. Now I will admit, they have more than their share!


88 posted on 05/01/2005 5:43:41 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: csvset

On the general topic, was listening to Bluesville, XM74, earlier this evening, when I heard a black woman blues singer, singing about losing her man, to another *MAN*.

I said "Say what!?", and my wife responds "yeah, I heard that too, and was wondering if I heard it right!"

The whole song was on that theme.

This anecdote just seemed to tie into the thread.


89 posted on 05/01/2005 5:47:37 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: csvset; Vigilantcitizen

Oh, and this guy isn't on the "down low" at all, and has now moved from STL to ATL. He marches down the sidewalk in front of my wife's office building on Peachtree, in Midtown, fairly often. She has a good view, and sees him twirl by pretty regularly.

Baton Bob.
http://cosray.wustl.edu/~lscott/pictures/batonbob/

Think maybe he's a likely candidate for being HIV+?


90 posted on 05/01/2005 5:52:46 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Official Ruling Class Oligarch Oppressor)
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To: VeniVidiVici; jocon307; traviskicks; Sonny M
The organization responsible for this was ACT-UP. It was an extortion tactic for government to pony up more dollars so they could enjoy no-fault fornication.

Several prominent homosexuals, like Elton John, were so upset by the tactic they actually expressed their regrets personally to people who were infected by blood transfusions and helped raise money for their treatments. One young boy in Ohio comes to mind.

People also started storing their own blood if they needed surgery. If they needed surgery quickly, family members were pressed into service as donors.

My kids and I donated blood for my wife at the behest of her doctor, who was concerned about the blood supply in the Northeast.

For some reason, this is no longer mentioned in the MSM. But no member of my family will ever be subjected to the common blood supply if we can help it.

91 posted on 05/01/2005 6:08:47 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Planned Parenthood is neither.)
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To: No Longer Free State

It was different--someone has changed the joke on you.

The line was "Trying to convince your mother you're HAITIAN."

The disease spread like wildfire on Haiti, evidently.


92 posted on 05/01/2005 6:43:07 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: traviskicks
It may be the case that gays claimed they were being discriminated against by not being allowed to donate blood, but if this occured it was out of ignorance, not malice.

I can't donate either. If I go try, and lie on the questionaire, am I doing it out of ignorance or malice?

You honestly believe that if somebody goes to donate blood and lies on the questionaire asking if they're a male who has had sex in the past few years with another male, it's out of ignorance?

Sorry, they're trying to prove a point. And it's more important to them that they "allowed" to do something than it is to ensure the safety of the blood supply.

93 posted on 05/01/2005 7:39:32 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: N. Theknow

"One young boy in Ohio comes to mind."

Ryan White, yes?


94 posted on 05/01/2005 8:17:34 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

I remember when gay groups were upset about blood donation policies and they were being encouraged to donate blood and lie. It could have been urban myth.


95 posted on 05/01/2005 8:24:55 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Sonny M
The founder of Kobey's swapmeet in San Diego (Monte Kobe) contracted AIDS from a blood transfusion while undergoing open heart surgery.

My oldest son had open heart surgery in 1985. I had surgery for cancer in 1985. We both worried for some time about the quality of the blood supply. Screening for AIDS was just being instituted at the time.

96 posted on 05/01/2005 8:48:10 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: org.whodat
They still are about 94% OF THE TOTAL AIDS CASES, nothing has really changed.

And if some segment of the black community tried to take responsibility and lower its AIDS rates, it/they would probably be accused of "acting white."

97 posted on 05/01/2005 8:48:58 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport them all; let Fox sort them out!)
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To: csvset
All I know is I remember working for a large group of hospitals in the mid 80's, and we were called in for special training and basically told that positive tests on patients for HIV would be kept secret, we were not to be given the info as to who had it.

It was and remains outrageous, the way this has been politicized and protected; people working with at-risk populations, in juvenile facilities, for example, are told "treat each person as if they were HIV positive, then you don't need to know which ones have it". Probably good advice to assume they all do, but give me a break.

98 posted on 05/01/2005 8:58:18 PM PDT by Mjaye
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To: whereasandsoforth

But what does that have to do with the article about black women getting aids. Are you saying they are gay? It appears that your assertion about it spilling into the general population is the problem. Apparently the author is trying to say that black men are sleeping with each other but not appearing as gay and going home to their wifes after prison and encounters. And this will start to affect more than black women because black men are extremely promiscuos with all races of women.


99 posted on 05/01/2005 8:59:25 PM PDT by rave123
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To: rdcorso

How many women always use a condom with their husbands?


100 posted on 05/01/2005 9:04:18 PM PDT by rave123
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