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Mexico Irked at California Governor's Praise of 'Minuteman' Border Project
AP Wire Service ^ | Apr 29, 2005 | Will Weissert

Posted on 04/29/2005 1:55:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer

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To: Tacis
What are you accusing me of, where, anywhere in my post does it state I hire illegals, I said I hired a Latino, do you think they are all illegal?
41 posted on 04/29/2005 2:40:42 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: SusaninOhio

I agree but it would be sad to see us "fenced in" - I just wish there was some other way although I can't see any ....


42 posted on 04/29/2005 2:44:07 PM PDT by SkyDancer
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To: SF Republican
It is sooo easy to push you peoples buttons, nowhere did I say I hired illegals, or supported such and some of you jumped on me for supporting tax evasion? discriminating against blacks? you people are so fun to play with, give you a statement, you make you own assumptions and flame away, without any consideration of looking at the facts, you assumed I hired illegals, you assumed our cleaning staff was illegal, you assumed my fast food workers are illegal.
43 posted on 04/29/2005 2:45:00 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: SF Republican
Do you support tax evasion if the guy dumping your garbage at night hires illegals? Do you think every time I buy a burrito or have someone dump my garbage that "looks" Mexican, I should ask for their papers?

Your referred to hiring a couple of cleaners.

If you hired somone to clean your home, and your paying them, they got to fill out one of them nice and dandy tax forms. I have a cleaning lady, and yes, I got her ID. Its the same exact situation as somone who hires a nanny, and doesn't check for tax purposes (I.E. the equivalent of paying under the table).

I'm going to assume your "burrito" remark was meant literally not as a figure of speech.

Also, if you hire somone to dump your garbage and they use illegals, yes you can get in trouble (see Wal-Mart, hiring a firm to clean the store that employed illegal aliens).

When I use contractors to do work for me, I do verify to make sure that if they sub-contract it out, its not going to illegal aliens.

My immigrant employees aren't illegals, and they pay taxes, I don't think its to much to expect others to do the same.

44 posted on 04/29/2005 2:47:02 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: SkyDancer
"Today, our country is the main market for products from that state. "

I don't know - are cashiers checks, money orders and wire transfers considered 'products'?

45 posted on 04/29/2005 2:49:56 PM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: SkyDancer
Last week, Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez personally reacted to Schwarzenegger's calls for a closed border, saying the comments "were wrong, an error and something we're not going to accept."

Screw this little anti-American weasel and Muck Fexico! Let's see how irked they get when the Minutemen expand operations to Texas, New Mexico and California.

46 posted on 04/29/2005 2:55:13 PM PDT by One_American
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To: Tacis
But, you saved $3.00 an hour, 12 hours a week. Of course, most of what you did pay was sent back to Mexico and was not available to help the local economy grow, but, what the heck, you are $36 ahead!
That is not true, you are falsely accusing me of something I am not doing, my cleaners are a legal business and I receive a receipt from them every month for their services.
47 posted on 04/29/2005 2:55:56 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: SkyDancer

> Mexicans commonly refer to the volunteers as "migrant hunters" <

I think the Minutemen should wait until 3 or 4 in the morning, and fire a few random shots into the ground followed by a bunch of whooping and hollering 'red-neck' style. That would be a great deterrent all on its own.</p>


48 posted on 04/29/2005 3:00:31 PM PDT by highnoon (No explanation can fill the hole in a child's heart where a daddy belongs.)
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To: Sonny M
If you hired someone to clean your home, and your paying them, they got to fill out one of them nice and dandy tax forms - I do not know about a tax form, I have only used them about 2 months but I do get a receipt from them, they give the appearance of a legitimate business, I doubt illegals advertise in the yellow pages. As far as our office cleaners I hope too they are doing the legal and right thing as you and I are but frankly in our office we do not check on each of of clients, vendors or companies to verify each of their employees are legal.
49 posted on 04/29/2005 3:00:56 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: RoseofTexas

I was listening to a local talk show host in Dallas the other night and he said that there are 280 illegal immigrants going to the University of Texas in the Texas version of the Dream act---

In Texas the "affirmative action" route is by being in the top 10%-20% (I forget which, hopefully a Texas freeper will let us know) of each graduating class is guaranteed admission to a Texas state university---so it is "color blind" so to speak---

The problem is, a girl called into this show the other night and said she is going to a high school in this area, but and makes the percentage qualification, but the colleges are getting so crowded that she is afraid classes will be filled---but she knows that 280 of those seats are being filled at UT by illegals.....


50 posted on 04/29/2005 3:14:41 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court)
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To: SkyDancer
Last week, Mexican Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez personally reacted to Schwarzenegger's calls for a closed border, saying the comments "were wrong, an error and something we're not going to accept."

Its something you're going to have to accept. This aint your country.

51 posted on 04/29/2005 3:16:34 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: SF Republican

Well let me tell you what they've done for us....

They've deficated in the pots and pans at our camphouse, then spread it on the walls and all over the beds. They've stollen food, anything that they could carry and what they couldn't carry, they've destroyed. No need to try and lock up, they'll break every window in the place.

Don't go to the ranch alone, and without a big gun. You see footprints, but never them. The border patrol has even told us to be very careful after dark. OUR LAND, OUR COUNTRY and they "poor people who only want work" are a threat to our very being.

Yep, some clean offices, work at burrito places and even WM. Know why???... they make it where employers don't have to pay a decent wage for any LEGAL person, whether it be Mexican or who. You further the loop.

As for papers, next time you'd better ask. Do you have any idea of what the Federal fine for employing an illegal alien is???


52 posted on 04/29/2005 3:25:26 PM PDT by Free4Ever
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To: Brad's Gramma

ping


53 posted on 04/29/2005 3:27:09 PM PDT by Free4Ever
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To: SkyDancer
Mexico on Friday condemned the comments of California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who praised hundreds of civilian volunteers guarding the Arizona-Mexican border in search of people crossing illegally.

judgeandjury on Friday condemned the government of Mexico, which is hopelessly corrupt and useless, and which absolutely refuses to lift so much as a finger to try to help its own people, preferring instead that they illegally enter other countries to seek what Mexico won't provide to them.

54 posted on 04/29/2005 3:28:06 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: SkyDancer

I couldn't care less what Mexico thinks of our efforts to preserve American sovereignty and control who comes into this country. If Mexico doesn't like it, tough s**t...


55 posted on 04/29/2005 3:28:30 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: SkyDancer

Mexico is irked. So? Why do we care?

We're "irked" that they keep sending people over the border.


56 posted on 04/29/2005 3:29:11 PM PDT by madison10
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To: SkyDancer


"Come say that to my face, ladies."
57 posted on 04/29/2005 3:31:30 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I dare you to make less sense.)
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To: SF Republican
No problem, if they're legal.
58 posted on 04/29/2005 3:33:15 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: SF Republican
I doubt illegals advertise in the yellow pages. As far as our office cleaners I hope too they are doing the legal and right thing as you and I are but frankly in our office we do not check on each of of clients, vendors or companies to verify each of their employees are legal.

You may laugh (or not), but alot of companies that use illegal labor, do advertise in the yellow pages (is nothing sacred?).

In my office, I'm one of the people who checks out our employees and contracters and subcontractors.

As I said earlier, most of them are immigrants.

Even some of the sub-contractors (who are independent contractors). There are alot of legal (and in a sense moral) obligations and liabilities that I work to take care of.

The immigrants I have working for me, are not underpaid and this is not a case of me using them because it would cost more for an American. I have been in the situation where I could have cut costs in a huge way if I looked the other way and let my contractors bring in illegals to do work.

I never did nor do. Its not fair to the American people or to the immigrants who come here legally to allow them to be undercut by cheap and illegal labor. Its also the equivalent of exploiting people in need to save money.

The immigrants who I do have who work for me, got their job mostly through referrals. i.e. "Friends of friends".

59 posted on 04/29/2005 3:35:01 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Americanexpat

"migrant hunters"

Would there be a problem with that term?

Some questions come to mind..

Would the hunters have to be licensed?
What would the bag limit be?
Would catch and release be permitted?
Maybe this is another job that Americans won't do, we might migrants to do the work.

So many questions....


60 posted on 04/29/2005 3:38:19 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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