You young whippersnapper! I'll punch you in the nose and take 12.4% of your wallet.
Posted on 04/26/2005 2:56:41 PM PDT by Libloather
Democrats Stage Rally for Social Security
30 minutes ago
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent
WASHINGTON - From the buttoned-down confines of a Senate hearing room to a boisterous outdoor rally nearby, Democrats took on President Bush and his Social Security proposals with gusto on Tuesday and rebuffed pleas for bipartisanship from frustrated Republicans.
"If he's going out to push for privatization, let's help him pack," Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois said to cheers from a sun-splashed crowd on the lawn across the street from the Capitol. He was ridiculing Bush's heavily publicized 60-day tour to build support for his proposals.
"Personal accounts unravels the Social Security safety net in a way that makes it hard to find common ground," said Sen. Ron Wyden (news, bio, voting record) of Oregon, one of several Democrats who criticized the president's recommendations at a lengthy Senate Finance Committee hearing.
The Republicans didn't just sit and take it.
"Those of you that are bad-mouthing every other suggestion out there, suggest your own plans," Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley (news, bio, voting record), the normally mild-mannered committee chairman erupted at one point during the hearing. "Doing nothing is not an option, because doing nothing is a cut in benefits," he added. "Grandpa Grassley gets Social Security, but my granddaughter, when she retires 56 years from now, if we do nothing, is going to get this cut that you're talking about."
Taken together, the hearing and the rally underscored the hardening of partisan differences in the three months since Bush called on Congress to enact solvency legislation that included an option for younger workers to invest part of their payroll taxes on their own.
The president was in Galveston, Texas, during the day, the latest in a string of appearances designed to build support for his plan. His cross-country campaign neared an end as a Washington Post-ABC News poll showed public support had declined for his plan for personal accounts.
Against that backdrop, Bush's top political aide, Karl Rove, journeyed to the Capitol for a meeting with GOP senators that one participant said included a discussion of Social Security. The White House and Bush's Republican allies in Congress have been struggling for weeks to advance legislation that meets the two goals Bush has stated — placing the program on a stable financial footing while creating the voluntary personal accounts for younger workers.
His proposal, which Democrats unvaryingly refer to as privatization, envisions deep cuts in guaranteed benefits for future retirees.
House Republicans, confronting solid Democratic opposition and fearing a political backlash in 2006, have made it clear they want the Senate to move first on legislation that would make major changes in Social Security.
But efforts to do so are hampered by the same Democratic opposition and by skittishness among several members of the GOP's own rank and file. After weeks of insisting that any legislation would have to be bipartisan, Grassley said recently he might try to craft a measure that had only Republican support.
Even that may prove difficult, given the breakdown of votes on the committee, although he said after the day's session he remained determined to try.
"We need to start somewhere and we don't need to have unanimity among Republicans to start," said Sen. Craig Thomas (news, bio, voting record) of Wyoming, one of 10 Republicans on the panel, which has eight Democrats.
Grassley gaveled the meeting to order with a reference to the rally that Bush's opponents organized for later in the day.
"Outside the hearing room today, we have political theater and dramatic attempts to polarize Social Security along partisan lines," he said.
"I ask my fellow committee members to resist the temptation to allow such theatrics to pervade this hearing room. If there is ever going to be a bipartisan consensus for reform, the process must begin in this committee, and there's no time like the present to get started."
Sen. Max Baucus (news, bio, voting record), D-Mont., responded moments later by agreeing changes were needed to assure that Social Security can pay full promised benefits after 2052. "But we do not need to privatize Social Security to save it," he said.
Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., who lost to Bush in the 2004 election, said it was the president who had failed to put a plan on the table. Referring to a proposal he made during his bid for the White House, Kerry called for repealing Bush-era tax cuts for the nation's top wage-earners to help shore up Social Security's finances.
"We're going to do something," he said of the need to address Social Security funding difficulties. "We're not going to do nothing."
Grassley called the hearing in an attempt to review competing proposals that would make Social Security permanently solvent. Three of the alternatives call for personal accounts, while a fourth does not.
For much of the hearing, though, the witnesses played the role of foils for senators seeking to elicit information favorable to their own views. Democrats prodded one witness to verify that a plan similar to Bush's would result in large new federal borrowing. Republicans called on another witness to affirm that without changes, Social Security would not be able to pay full benefits beginning at mid-century.
Yeah! Now that you mention it, there's a picture of Ted Kennedy! Where is the obligatory picture of an oldsmoblie or Mary Jo's forever young photo?
Didn't Hitler have a nice brown leather coat like that for touring in his car? ;p
You young whippersnapper! I'll punch you in the nose and take 12.4% of your wallet.
No more intergenerational Ponzi schemes, thank you very much.
Good L-rd. She really is wearing the Chairman Mao suit.
Not so much a loss of weight, perhaps more of a shift of weight from "gut to butt".
Oh look, Hillary in her favorite chairman Mao coat. How quaint.
(arf)
"She really is wearing the Chairman Mao suit."
Actually, Broom Hillary looks good with most colors...OVER HER HEAD....
;^)
I was thinking Fidel too.
...and thanks to Mao and Hillery green clothes will go down like green eggs and ham.
Maybe all "true" communists wear the same drab green color.
Fidel, Kim, Mao, Hilary, all with the same philosophy and clothing designer
Simple question:
WHAT IS THE DEMOCRAT PLAN OR SOLUTION?
We here what Bush and Republicans say, but if the alternatives fail and Democrats sabotage everything, by law all that happens is payments will get reduced by 25% or more after 2000 whatever.
The 'We are fam-i-ly' song made me want to puke......
after every event Hillary leaves behind a carton of her favorite Mao spawn eggs
Murrymom, could you answer that - please?
The Democrats' plan is to let the Republicans wallow in the mess they created, until the next election. After the voters turn out the Repukes, the Dems will insure long-term solvency of the SS system by reducing the enormous budget deficits resulting directly from Bush's irresponsible tax cuts. The SS system itself doesn't need any drastic changes. SS will continue to enjoy huge surpluses for the next 15 years at least so long as the Republicans don't make any drastic changes.
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