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Diaperless Babies Seen As Earth-Friendly Solution (Enviro-wacko alert)
CNSNews.com ^ | 4/22/05 | Marc Morano

Posted on 04/25/2005 7:28:34 AM PDT by jalisco555

(CNSNews.com) - As environmentalists celebrate the 34th annual Earth Day, some in the green movement are now advocating "diaper-free" babies to help save the planet.

Citing concerns about plastic disposable diapers clogging landfills and the amount of washing and detergents that cloth diapers require, many environmentalists are taking a page from tribal cultures and seeking to eliminate the use of the baby diapers altogether.

The green movement is now promoting diaperless babies as a "retro, cutting-edge, environmentally friendly scheme" to mothers throughout the industrialized world.

The green movement already has declared war on the modern flush toilet, declaring it an "environmental disaster," and has instead pushed waterless "dry" toilets as an earth-friendly solution.

Former Vice President Al Gore joined the board of a waterless urinal company late last year to further the dry toilet cause and to help avert what many environmentalists believe is a looming international water crisis.

"There is a way to have a baby and NOT use diapers," says one website advocating diaperless babies. Parents are urged to get in tune with their infant's body signals and hold babies over toilets, buckets and shrubbery or any other convenient receptacle when nature calls.

One advocate suggests bringing a "tight-lidded bucket" along to serve as a waste receptacle when mothers take their babies out in public.

'Primitive worship'

But Robert Bidinotto, publisher of ecoNOT.com and a critic of environmentalists, dismisses such notions as "primitive-worship."

"Incredibly, some environmentalists actually prefer that the foul messes we normally capture in diapers and landfills, spill instead onto our linoleum, carpets, and even our children," Bidinotto told CNSNews.com.

Noting many greens' opposition to flush toilets and now baby diapers, Bidinotto said environmentalists' have a "strange affinity for bodily wastes," and he believes they have become "obsessed with toilet issues."

'Be the first in your neighborhood'

Umbra Fisk, advice columnist for Grist Magazine , a major environmental e-publication, has joined the diaperless baby effort.

Responding to a reader's question in the Feb. 12 issue of Grist Magazine about how to handle baby waste in an Earth-friendly manner, Fisk fully endorses the diaper-free movement as a "retro cutting-edge environmentally friendly scheme." Fisk urges parents to "be the first in your neighborhood" to go diaper free.

"People around the world who have no access to diapers manage to raise children, and a small group of parents in diaper-rich countries have decided to follow their lead. Around here, it's called 'elimination communication' or 'diaper-free,'" Fisk wrote.

Fisk argues that changing times mean parents no longer have to change diapers.

"The concept is logical and simple: Infants give recognizable signs of imminent peeing and pooping; it's possible to learn your infant's signs; infant pee isn't frightening; and if you train your kid to ignore their outputs, you'll just have to go back and retrain them when traditional potty-training time arrives," Fisk explained.

Another diaperless baby advocate, who identifies herself as Natec, wrote a how-to manual for prospective mothers of diaperless babies titled, "Elimination Timing: The Solution to the Dirty Diapers War." The manual, which used fictionalized names and characters, describes Natec's motivation to go diaper-free after the birth of her son.

"When David was born, I started to think about the kind of world I was making for him to grow up in. The thought of garbage spewing and sprawling landfills filled me with horror. And right along with this horror were those little mother's helpers, disposable diapers...rotting, but never really going away in all their plastic glory," Natec wrote.

Natec maintains that plastic diapers "can take 500 years to decompose." Natec is not impressed with so-called "biodegradable" diapers, because they "may contain more plastic to compensate for the weakness of their materials."

Although green advocates estimate that diapers account for only between 0.5 to 1.8 percent of landfill space, they nevertheless consider that troubling.

"One percent of billions of tons is worth worrying about. If we don't think about how to address that one percent, which one percent will we address?" asked Richard Dennison, a senior scientist with the Environmental Defense group, as quoted in Natec's how-to manual.

'Evil empire of Western parenting'

Concerns about landfills are not the only reason some parents are going diaperless.

Scott Noelle, editor of the Continuum Concept website and a father, explained why he eventually stopped using diapers on his infant daughter Olivia, in a web essay titled "Going Diaperless."

"In my mind, diapers became the symbol of the Evil Empire of Western Parenting in which babies must suffer to accommodate the needs of their parents' broken-continuum culture: a controlled, sterile, odorless, wall-to-wall carpeted fortress in which to live with the illusion of dominion over nature," wrote Noelle, on the website livingharmony.com.

Despite his concerns, Noelle continued to use diapers on his daughter, despite the fact that he "felt like a monster and a fraud."

Noelle finally chose to go diaperless and looked to traditional cultures for inspiration. "How I longed for a simple, dirt-floored, baby-friendly hut like that of a Yequana family," he wrote.

Natec agrees with Noelle that modern society has a lot to learn from the traditional ways of life.

"[M]any of us have not, until recent years, given credit to the mothering skills of more Earth-centered, i.e. 'primitive" cultures,' she wrote in her how-to manual.

"When you think about it, there have been millions of years of human beings and only a few thousand years with any references to diapers," she added.

But Bidinotto of ecoNOT.com bristles at what he considers the glorification of a "primitive" way of life by diaperless baby advocates.

"These people have no idea what primitive life is really like. Their preferred alternative to today's 'controlled, sterile, odorless' environment is a world of filth and disease, where countless millions died in plagues and epidemics," Bidinotto explained.

Shopping with a diaperless baby

Ingrid Bauer, author of the book "Diaper Free: The Gentle Wisdom of Natural Infant Hygiene," writes on her website natural-wisdom.com that the key for parents interested in going au natural is parent-infant communication.

"Observation and close bonding interaction help the parent to understand the baby's signals, body language and timing rhythms," Bauer writes in the frequently asked questions section of her website

"Some common signals that indicate a need to pee in a young infant are: squirming, "fussing," tensing the face, frowning or having a look of "inner concentration," she wrote.

"When the baby has to go, the parent holds him or her in a comfortable position over an appropriate toilet place and makes a cueing sound (perhaps a gentle "sss")."

What's the parent of a diaperless baby to do when out shopping? Bauer offers this solution.

"These parents may rely on using public bathrooms, or bring along a container such as a tight -lidded bucket," Bauer wrote.

Bauer calls freedom from diapers "responsive infant-care."

"This gentle and ancient practice is the most common way of caring for a baby's hygiene needs in the non-Western world," she writes.

Bidinotto rejects any notion that industrialized nations should mimic the traditional cultures.

"The only thing that we moderns have to learn from primitive cultures is what they themselves learned. They learned that life is much better with modern conveniences, such as diapers. And in fact, most primitive peoples can't wait to get and use such conveniences," Bidinotto explained.

"But now environmentalists want to sentence millions to the filth and drudgery that our ancestors were so eager to escape," he added.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: baby; bigpileopoop; diaper; earthday; environment; envirowacko; green; greens; itsmellsbadinhere; pagingalgore; pee; shiteverywhere
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To: tiamat
I once peeled my daughter out of her clothes and hosed her off outside rather than let her into the house the way she was....

I breastfed my son when he was an infant and he would only poop once every 3 days. One day my mother wanted to go shopping on the ::cue the scary music:: THIRD day. I begged and pleaded but she wouldn't listen!

We happened to be in a Super Baby Store, and my son was sitting in one of their very nice, cloth covered, infant seats attached to the shopping cart. He started to go, LOUDLY. The diaper was no match for the power of this poo, and it leaked all the way up to his neck. He left a puddle inches deep in the infant seat. It was SUCH a mess!!

I bathed him in the restroom sink and threw away the clothes he had been wearing while my mother tried to clean the cloth seat cover.

181 posted on 04/25/2005 12:06:00 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna

LOL, omg, that is hilarious! My daughter did the same thing while I was breast feeding her. We'd be somewhere public and she'd do what came natural... loudly! I just loved the older ladies who would look shocked at first until they noticed it was coming from the baby... then they'd laugh. Nothing is that loud, I swear! The kid practically elevated herself everytime she went!

:o)


182 posted on 04/25/2005 12:46:21 PM PDT by P-Chan Penny (Watch out or I will send out my attack Chihuahua, Miaka!)
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To: cyclotic
"Read the rest of my post. I don't care about the necessary use of natural resources. That's why God gave them to us."

. . .Did not even consider a l; or perhaps I should have ended with a LOL. . .(?)

Whatever. . .

183 posted on 04/25/2005 12:46:21 PM PDT by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: GoldCountryRedneck

LOL


184 posted on 04/25/2005 1:07:50 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: jalisco555
My husband and I lived in married student housing at Antioch college about 30 years ago. A woman with a "diaperless" baby lived next door and used to let her baby roam on the lawn in front of the apartments.

My only question is "Will pooper scooper laws be enforced for babies, as they now are enforced for dogs?"

I certainly hope so.

185 posted on 04/25/2005 1:14:26 PM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: jalisco555
Former Vice President Al Gore joined the board of a waterless urinal company late last year to further the dry toilet cause and to help avert what many environmentalists believe is a looming international water crisis.

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the Earth 75% water? Wonder how we're gonna have a water crisis? Global warming? Cooling? Is someone gonna stop the rain? Better start stocking up on Aquafina! /sarcasm

Cheers,

CSG

186 posted on 04/25/2005 1:18:47 PM PDT by CompSciGuy ("At 20 years of age the will reigns, at 30 the wit, at 40 the judgment." -- Ben Franklin)
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To: jalisco555
This reminds me of a neighborhood kid who bent over and blew his nose---into the air. Nothing to catch it...just snorted it out....making the rest of us sick.

I also think it's pretty sick of guys/gals to spit....same disgusting act......

187 posted on 04/25/2005 1:24:49 PM PDT by Pillows (Lead........follow..........or get out of the way.)
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To: sharkhawk; Mr. Jeeves; jalisco555
"How I longed for a simple, dirt-floored, baby-friendly hut like that of a Yequana family," he wrote.

He has no intention of moving to a dirt floored hut or pitching a tent in the woods. That entails too much WORK! And I do mean long hours of hard labor to maintain such a "simple, primitive" lifestyle.

That is in addition to earning money for such "luxuries" as modern medicine; maintaining his web site extolling the "primitive virtues", and all the rest of it.

I personally do not consider a dirt floor liberally sprinkled with human waste to be anything short of a breeding ground of diseases he has no real desire to be around.

He can "lament" on-line all he wants, but at the end of the day, he'll happily remain living in the modern home, with hot & cold running water, while eating inspected, sanitary food, properly cooked & stored; and all paid for by the unwashed (except for their brains) kooks that buy his dribbling drivel.

If such lifestyles were so wonderful, why did our ancestors, and nearly all modern, non-industrialized peoples, work so frickking hard to get away from them, and achieve a better, more modern way of life?

These educated idiots are laughing all the way to the bank...laughing at the ignorant idiots that buy their books, and pay to attend their lectures and "seminars".

188 posted on 04/25/2005 1:36:20 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more work horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: CompSciGuy
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the Earth 75% water?

Not only that but I have it on good authority that water recycles itself automatically. We can't run out.

189 posted on 04/25/2005 1:39:23 PM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

"Hollywood wierdos were saying how great it was to "take a poo in the woods hunched over lika an animal"."


It's a good thing some male wolf or grizzly didn't come upon them while in said hunched position....talk about an inviting angle of entry...!



190 posted on 04/25/2005 2:02:40 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: jalisco555
I got that fact in Science class in 7th grade, Maybe Al didn't get the memo?

Cheers,

CSG

191 posted on 04/25/2005 2:17:15 PM PDT by CompSciGuy ("At 20 years of age the will reigns, at 30 the wit, at 40 the judgment." -- Ben Franklin)
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To: jalisco555


192 posted on 04/25/2005 2:18:24 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: sharkhawk; Mr. Jeeves
Someone up for contacting Mr. Noelle?

phone: (+1) 360-344-3117
email: info@ScottNoelle.com

I live and work in Port Townsend, Washington — a small, progressive town about 50 miles northwest of Seattle. My business postal address is:

1044 Water Street, Box 342
Port Townsend, WA 98368
United States

193 posted on 04/25/2005 2:28:44 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: jalisco555
a world of filth and disease, where countless millions died in plagues and epidemics

I think you're talking about early civilization.

194 posted on 04/25/2005 2:37:58 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: jalisco555

Come to think of it, diapers are a terrible thing to do to a kid.

How would you like to be forced to defecate in your underwear?

If we lived like early humans, children could simply make wherever they happened to be--right onto the ground, where it would then serve to fertilize the earth.

Unfortunately, humans have overpopulated the earth, and we now must labor incessently to create and maintain our environment.


195 posted on 04/25/2005 2:48:49 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Syncro
I recommend Spanish Moss. I knew a hippie chick some time back in the last century that used it. (No, not MY hippie chick...)

On herself, on her kid, or both?

The Bedouin Arabs my dad worked with in the 50s plastered their kids' posteriors with a thick layer of fresh, wet camel dung. When it dried out, it was time to 'change the diaper' by cracking it off, and applying a new coating.

196 posted on 04/25/2005 3:10:37 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more work horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: jalisco555
Former Vice President Al Gore joined the board of a waterless urinal company late last year to further the dry toilet cause and to help avert what many environmentalists believe is a looming international water crisis.

After too much iced tea no toilet is a dry one

197 posted on 04/25/2005 3:13:31 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: GoldCountryRedneck
Kitty Litter is progress???

LOL! For cats. For us sentient beings, well... And, hey, if the green people want to go with the dry toilets, let 'em. But in their own little walled-in enclave, with their own 'kind', where they can't infect the rest of us with their biohazards. Ick.

198 posted on 04/25/2005 3:54:03 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: John O

"Former Vice President Al Gore joined the board of a waterless urinal company"

You mean a tree farm?


199 posted on 04/25/2005 4:02:10 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: jalisco555
"Not only that but I have it on good authority that water recycles itself automatically. We can't run out."

I have a well and septic system. I pump the water out of the ground, use it and then put it back in the ground. Sorry, but I can't see any problem with that.
200 posted on 04/25/2005 4:06:06 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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