Abortion staff ignores baby born alive?

worldnetdaily.com ^ | April 25, 2005 | Ron Strom

[M. Espinola]

This is not easy to post these types of pictures, and to think this horror is 'legally' allowed in today's America---then again so was slavery & 'legal' segregation.

Nazi war criminals were convicted for these types of crimes. G-d help us!

"I wrapped him in [a] blue pad instead of one of the wet blankets. I just kept kissing him and telling him I loved him so much. I told him I was sorry I couldn't get anyone to help us and I was so sorry for ever coming here."

Angele says she wants the government to do an autopsy on Rowan's body, but that the local coroner refuses to do so. She says she doesn't have the $3,500 it would cost for her to pay for an autopsy. "It's important to my cause to prove that Rowan was alive in order to stop this from happening again," she said, noting an autopsy could provide such evidence.

The Orlando Florida abortion factory listed in the WND article

ABORTIONISTS: names of baby butchers

[Tessarie]

How in God's name do you make arrangements, and give a name
to a baby you are going to kill??? Haunted, yes, forever.

I am a health care provider. I will never understand how they get past. "First, do no harm."

Another legal, Florida, murder. I am sure Felos
will put another notch in his bedpost.

As a mom, the greatest gifts from God, were my children.

[freeangel]

Let's see if this woman will now march for the party of death. I can't help but feel, when the word "lawsuit" appears--that she is now in it for the money.

[M. Espinola]

"Another legal, Florida, murder. I am sure Felos will put another notch in his bedpost. As a mom, the greatest gifts from God, were my children."

I fully agree with all your comments. Florida may be in for unprecedented powerful hurricane season this year. Last year may have been sample.

[I still care]

Often I have sympathy for these women because I truly feel they are deceived about the nature of the baby. I've seen clinics lie their faces off about what the "products of conception" are.

This story makes me sick. It's very, very clear she knew she was murdering someone, masked in her concern that the baby didn't suffer.

Note the following statements:

"I told them that I had made previous arrangements for him to be picked up by the funeral director."

"I could feel the baby still moving. I told my friend this worried me. I remember thinking it must take time to slow down and stop his heart."

"I wanted it to be as humane and painless as possible for my son," she said, choking back tears. "They told me they would guide a needle directly into his heart and it would put him to sleep, and he wouldn't feel anything."

"I was concerned that it would hurt the baby as it generally (from what I've read) burns the skin and lungs. I expressed my concerns that he not suffer or feel anything."

"Although 'labor and delivery' is most difficult on the mother," she explained, "it seemed to be the best choice for my son. And it would allow the opportunity for my son to be born whole, stillborn, and I could hold him and grieve him and have him cremated."

"I chose Bible verses for his service and everything."


My God, did she she think she was at the vet thinking she was having a dog put to sleep? She absolutely knew she was killing her own son. She is a true murderess. I don't care what her rationale was.

[sadiebugsmom]

This was so difficult to read. Jesus cries every time this woman says that she is a "Christian." With "followers" like that, did He really need the Romans? God can forgive her and will if she is sincere, but, boy, it is hard even to think about her in a sympathetic way, since she so cold-bloodedly plotted the murder of her own child. I guess that is what millions of women do every year, it's just very, very hard to see it written out in black and white. I feel so sick right now, and I just thank God that He is the Lord of Life and is now holding this sweet, innocent baby in His arms of love.

[anniegetyourgun]

That's exactly how people "justify" this in their depraved minds. It's how so many could see their way to having a disabled woman put down too. Apparently, it is now true in our country that certain humans (those who can't speak for themselves) are on par with sick or unwanted animals.

[bewitched]

this lady sickens me. She tries to appear compassionate and concerned for the unborn childs pain but is outraged that it was not properly killed and extracted from her body. And then she has the nerves to be upset because of the neglect she received. Talk about a hypocrite.

[livius]

This is insane. She calls him "my son" and sits there calmly discussing the best way to kill him. Unbelievable.

[coconutt2000]

Notably, responses to this post mostly show very little human compassion.

The woman in the story was raped. She was counseled and she chose a second trimester abortion. Wrong, yes. Very wrong.

But the live birth of her son, and the subsequent death of her child made her realize how wrong she was to make the choice she made.

In this instance I will leave the passing of condemnation to God, and advise that all of you do the same.

Use the time it would take to express your disgust at her choice, to pray for the soul of the child, and to seek the wisdom of God in regards to how best end similar occurrences. We have the advantage of understanding that abortion is wrong. She now has that understanding, and while her penance and her sin will haunt her for the rest of her life, adding our own condemnations accomplishes nothing to help, or to bring her to a closer understanding with God.

[TheBattman]

LEgal action - as in charges of murder - yes.

A lawsuit by the supposed "mother" - no. She was trying to have an abortion to kill the baby anyway. She got what she wanted- just not quite in the method she expected.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Doctors Are Warned on Fetus Care - Guidelines Are Issued on Born-Alive Infants Protection Act***The Bush administration issued guidelines yesterday advising physicians and hospitals that under a 2002 law they are obligated to care for fetuses "born alive" naturally or in the process of an abortion, and medical providers could face penalties for withholding treatment.

The law, signed by President Bush nearly three years ago, conferred legal rights on fetuses "at any stage of development." It specifies that a fetus that is breathing, has a beating heart, a pulsating umbilical cord or muscle movement should be considered alive and entitled to protection under federal emergency medical laws and child abuse statutes. ...................***

[daddyOwe]

It sure is. This stuff makes me sick, people that could actually do this.

[Tessarie]

Is the operative word NUTT?

Campassion for the child, and this choice was given
to her by the state. Time this choice was taken away.
Counseled by killers. Compassion for the child.
Rape does not constitute murder.

[Aquinasfan]

I was concerned that it would hurt the baby as it generally (from what I've read) burns the skin and lungs. I expressed my concerns that he not suffer or feel anything."

Words fail.

[coconutt2000]

Do you normally sound nutty? Because your post didn't make an ounce of sense as a response to mine.

I noted the following:

- that abortion is wrong
- that the child died
- that compassion is due for a grieving mother who repents her decisions that led her to that crossroads

Sympathy for the woman who was raped is not too much to ask. Compassion for a grieving mother is not too much to ask. To pass judgment and condemn a repentant soul, regardless of their sin, is wrong. For those who genuinely repent, it is the duty of those of us who follow Christ to seek to understand and accept.

I don't excuse her for her decisions, but I cannot find it in my heart to condemn her further. If she is truly repentant, than she has already condemned herself with far more conviction than I could ever bring to bear. Instead I choose to condemn and hold in contempt those who do not repent, or who proudly wear the badges of their sins as evidence of their superiority over those of us with the human decency to have a conscience.

Did you even bother to read what I wrote?

[television is just wrong]

what a horrific experience that must have been for her.

[Aquinasfan]

Abortion

Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.⁷²

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.⁷³

My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth.⁷⁴

2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:

You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.⁷⁵

God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.⁷⁶

2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. "A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae,"⁷⁷ "by the very commission of the offense,"⁷⁸ and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law.⁷⁹ The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society.

2273 The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation:

"The inalienable rights of the person must be recognized and respected by civil society and the political authority. These human rights depend neither on single individuals nor on parents; nor do they represent a concession made by society and the state; they belong to human nature and are inherent in the person by virtue of the creative act from which the person took his origin. Among such fundamental rights one should mention in this regard every human being's right to life and physical integrity from the moment of conception until death."⁸⁰

"The moment a positive law deprives a category of human beings of the protection which civil legislation ought to accord them, the state is denying the equality of all before the law. When the state does not place its power at the service of the rights of each citizen, and in particular of the more vulnerable, the very foundations of a state based on law are undermined. . . . As a consequence of the respect and protection which must be ensured for the unborn child from the moment of conception, the law must provide appropriate penal sanctions for every deliberate violation of the child's rights."⁸¹

2274 Since it must be treated from conception as a person, the embryo must be defended in its integrity, cared for, and healed, as far as possible, like any other human being.

Prenatal diagnosis is morally licit, "if it respects the life and integrity of the embryo and the human fetus and is directed toward its safe guarding or healing as an individual. . . . It is gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent of a death sentence."⁸²

2275 "One must hold as licit procedures carried out on the human embryo which respect the life and integrity of the embryo and do not involve disproportionate risks for it, but are directed toward its healing the improvement of its condition of health, or its individual survival."⁸³

"It is immoral to produce human embryos intended for exploitation as disposable biological material."⁸⁴

"Certain attempts to influence chromosomic or genetic inheritance are not therapeutic but are aimed at producing human beings selected according to sex or other predetermined qualities. Such manipulations are contrary to the personal dignity of the human being and his integrity and identity"⁸⁵ which are unique and unrepeatable.

Catechism of the Catholic Church

[bewitched]

If this woman was so naive and clueless I would have more compassion for her. She took measures to make sure that the baby feel no pain during the abortion. She obviously understood this was an unborn child with ability to feel pain. THAT is what sickens me. She knew. She did it anyway. The whole ordeal turned out to be gruesome for HER And now she wants to sue. Notice she no longer seems concerned if the baby was actually in pain as he fell in the toilet or lay there dying? If she truly is sorry, she will work hard to win a huge settlement and then donate the entire amount to a cause to educate others. Otherwise, she should take the whole ordeal as a punishment and not look to profit from it.

[Liberty Valance]

If this is how we treat the least among us how can we call this a civilized society?