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Doug Giles: A Time To Kill
Townhall ^ | April 23, 2005 | Doug Giles

Posted on 04/23/2005 10:15:30 PM PDT by Irish Rose

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Agree with it or not, this is one heck of an article. I searched for the author's name, and then the article's title, and couldn't find anything. Enjoy - and, if you feel like it, discuss.
1 posted on 04/23/2005 10:15:30 PM PDT by Irish Rose
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To: Irish Rose

It is one heck of an article. I share the author's anger that these types of people are allowed out of prison.

I will say one thing - it's not always the parents' fault that their children turn out to be child molesters and child killers.


2 posted on 04/23/2005 10:23:15 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Fee, Fie, Foe, FReep!!)
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To: Irish Rose

ping for a.m. coffee


3 posted on 04/23/2005 10:24:11 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: Irish Rose

Whoever the author is - I nominate him/her for US Attorney General.


4 posted on 04/23/2005 10:24:14 PM PDT by daybreakcoming ("Courage is being scared to death -- and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne)
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To: Irish Rose
i don't agree with prison rape as a part of punishment - for anyone.

but i agree with him about the immediate execution, only i would recommend public hangings. for rapists and murderers - public hangings.
5 posted on 04/23/2005 10:31:29 PM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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Then, just so there is no confusion with regard to what they’re in for, we could put their little victim’s face up on the overhead, describe what these dogs did to her, give everyone their new cell number, tell everyone where they’ll be working for the next few years, show all inmates the precise spot the beasts will eat lunch, issue them a pink unitard to wear and then … let the chips fall where they may. .

What's so wrong is that we fall back on depending on prison rapists to adminster punishment to those we often don't punish with death like they did to their innocent little victims.

Our prisons are infamous for in-house raping, and it just goes on. If you're a little 18 year-old white boy in prison for some stupid crime in which you didn't hurt anyone, you can look forward to having your body being traded around, and that extra punishment certainly does not fit the crime. But it goes on all the time, everybody knows and nobody cares. Still everyone hopes that we can depend on the prison rapists to really take care of child molesters/murderers when our justice system fails.

6 posted on 04/24/2005 12:22:44 AM PDT by xJones
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To: sdpatriot
i don't agree with prison rape as a part of punishment - for anyone. but i agree with him about the immediate execution, only i would recommend public hangings. for rapists and murderers - public hangings.

I agree with you.

7 posted on 04/24/2005 12:39:11 AM PDT by Rider on the Rain
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To: xJones; sdpatriot

I think that's an important issue, and a national disgrace.

People who deserve execution should be legally executed, not turned over to prison inmates.

And until such time as our laws specifically state that brutalization by other prisoners is a part of incarceration, we should protect prisoners against each other.


8 posted on 04/24/2005 1:04:56 AM PDT by dsc
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To: Irish Rose
Slow castration; with a butter knife. Then, break all bones one at a time with a baseball bat. After that, hang whatever's left. If anyone ever molests MY little girl, prison will be the last thing he should worry about.
9 posted on 04/24/2005 1:50:03 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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What can happen is that you get really hate-filled people eventually released from prison. For instance, one of James Byrd's murderers had just been released from Huntsville prison in Texas. The MSM went wild because Byrd was a black man who was hideously dragged to death behind a pickup truck with his head bouncing off. He didn't do anything to them, but one of the murderers had just been released from Huntsville prison where he'd been repeatedly raped by black inmates and Byrd was black.

Our prison systems are failures because criminals go in bad, but they can come out much worse. Aryan Nation, Mexican Mafia, Black gangs, it usually divides into a racial jungle for survival.

10 posted on 04/24/2005 1:58:26 AM PDT by xJones
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To: sdpatriot

Drawing and quartering is slow and messy, compared to a hanging, but equally effective and may serve as a deterrent.


11 posted on 04/24/2005 2:11:59 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: clee1

I agree. They had better pray the police find them first.


12 posted on 04/24/2005 2:13:22 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Irish Rose

Well, here's a true story for all of you..

My eighteen year old son was brutally murdered six years ago tonight.. The thirty-four year old killer was a repeat/released violent criminal.. He's now in jail for fifty-eight years to life, and must serve forty-eight before chance of getting out again..

A lot of people lost their best friend that night..G_d be with them..


13 posted on 04/24/2005 2:15:46 AM PDT by crowman
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To: Irish Rose
One heck of an article! Great find.

I understand the sentiment, but a quick hanging would do just fine!

14 posted on 04/24/2005 2:22:47 AM PDT by protest1
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To: xJones

I think that depending on prison scum to meet out punishment our emasculated judicial system refused to enact is terrible.

We as a culture should set firm boundaries and be able to produce results.


15 posted on 04/24/2005 3:13:26 AM PDT by mlmr (The Culture of Death will get a lot more deadly before it's done.)
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To: crowman
My condolenses on the loss of your precious son, words are not an adequate thing to express the sorrow I feel.

I've walked that mile in your shoes 15 years ago this month when my 16 year old was brutally beaten to death by a recividist sociopath juvenile who was the local bully and drug dealer just to see what it felt like to kill. He did 14.5 of a 20 year plea bargained sentence, they released him this last June having maxed out his 'good behavior' time. We fought 6 parole hearings, the first 10 months after he was sentenced.

Over 12,000 people a year lose their lives to REPEAT offenders on parole or probation! An equal amount of people are raped by repeat offenders. parole & probation stats

16 posted on 04/24/2005 3:31:09 AM PDT by GailA (Glory be to GOD and his only son Jesus.)
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Over 12,000 people a year lose their lives to REPEAT offenders on parole or probation! An equal amount of people are raped by repeat offenders. parole & probation stats

The last time I checked the stats, over -> 40% <- of the felons on Death Row were out on parole, bail, or some other form of release from an *earlier* crime at the time that they committed the offense that earned them the death penalty...

17 posted on 04/24/2005 3:35:58 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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Recidivisim in 1983 was 62%, in 1994 it was 68%. I doubt it was better reporting or increased arrest and incarceration that caused such a jump in the stats...this was under slick willie's watch when we had added 100,000 new COPS to the streets of a nation the size of ours (what a joke).


18 posted on 04/24/2005 3:48:58 AM PDT by GailA (Glory be to GOD and his only son Jesus.)
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To: xJones

"He didn't do anything to them, but one of the murderers had just been released from Huntsville prison where he'd been repeatedly raped by black inmates and Byrd was black."

Gee, I wonder why the lamestream media didn't tell me that. Guess it was too "nuanced" for them.

Operating our prisons like we do is not only an offense against decency, it is stupid. "Hey, here's a good idea: let's take our worst people, make them a lot worse, then put them back on the streets."


19 posted on 04/24/2005 4:34:27 AM PDT by dsc
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To: Irish Rose

I would quote Scripture here--but our High Court just overturned a death sentence for a murdering rapist because
a Christian jurist told his delegated peers of the moment that ,as a Christian, he had some questions about the death penalty. So another Christian brought a Bible out and
they consulted the supreme authoritative source for Truth.
And a majority on our Court claim it was Wrong to bring a Bible into a discussion over whether a murderer deserved be
treated as he treated others.The authority of our Law must
rest upon the authority of that Law which is Divine.(James
Wilson- "On the General Principles of Law and Obligation."


20 posted on 04/24/2005 4:44:21 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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