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Federal Order May Require Mandatory Psych Screening and Medication of School Children
Conservative News.US ^ | 4-22-2005 | E.F. Winslow

Posted on 04/22/2005 8:11:07 AM PDT by francke

Federal Order May Require Mandatory Psych Screening and Medication of School Children By E.F. Winslow 4-22-05

There is a new, invasive government program coming to your state that is so Orwellian that it is seems beyond all belief. It potentially involves the mandatory mental health screening of all children in the state, and could actually mean that minors would be prescribed behavior-modifying drugs in school against their parent’s wishes. And to make the parallel to Orwell complete, the program is called the “New Freedom Commission on Mental Health”. The New Freedom Commission on Mental Health was created in 2002 by Executive Order 13263, but the recommendations and implementation of the program are just being released now. One of the six goals of the Commission was to make “early mental health screening, assessment, and referral to services…common practice”. This seemingly innocuous statement raised eyebrows with some in Congress, and Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) proposed an amendment that was prevent this bill from requiring mandatory screening and state-ordered medicating of children without parental consent. Last September, his amendment was defeated. He has reintroduced it this year as H.R. 181. ...

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KEYWORDS: education; fascism; freedomcommission; healthcare; mentalhealth; pspl; publicschools; schools
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To: Bald Eagle777
Coffee = nutrition ! 'Get some!

Wonderfully effective road scraper for my aged brain paths! ;o)

61 posted on 04/22/2005 10:47:10 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: francke

http://www.mentalhealthcommission.gov/reports/FinalReport/FullReport-05.htm I read the portion of the report on children. Many of its recommendations I agree with many I do not. However I read nothing that allowed treatment or screening without Parental Consent. The main problem I have is that it would force the establishment of yet another level of Education Highnesses. It ignores the current abuses of the Education/Mental Health industries. Example - I think Ritalin is overprescribed to boys, just cause they act like boys. We also do not need the creation of another Federal Mandate without discussion of how is gonna be paid for? There are legitimate concerns about the emotional and mental health for children but I think this report may be too ambitious and lead to unwarrented inteference in the private lives of families.


62 posted on 04/22/2005 10:47:23 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: kenth; CatoRenasci; Marie; PureSolace; Congressman Billybob; P.O.E.; cupcakes; Amelia; Diana; ...

63 posted on 04/22/2005 10:59:05 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: KarlInOhio

thats funny and sad at the same time.


64 posted on 04/22/2005 11:10:29 AM PDT by timtoews5292004
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To: concerned about politics

Support school choice candidates.
I don't support the education liberals. Sorry.


65 posted on 04/22/2005 1:12:37 PM PDT by moog
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To: LibertyRocks
Think about it this way... if school vouchers are used then the private schools will be receiving tax dollars and could be subject to this legislation as well. Another reason not to have liberal vouchers. I would rather keep private schools private. Yes, I am a public school teacher and do get tired of the negative propaganda attacks by the ed libs. Considering the news source, who knows about whether we have the whole story . Personally, I don't know of any teachers in my area who have made any medical diagnoses. I certainly have not nor will I ever. Any one I have ever seen have been due to parents (and no, not at the request of a teacher). The parents have the final say in any such decision anyway, as they should have.

But then I guess if it's anything negative about education, you'll hear it here first.

66 posted on 04/22/2005 1:18:41 PM PDT by moog
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To: Calpernia
Thanks, I will try to read up on this more. I'm still not believing it.

I certainly don't believe every point of view expressed that is there mainly to promote a political agenda--especially from a liberal media (i.e against religion, Boy Scouts, or the war). Negative propaganda is what it is.

67 posted on 04/22/2005 1:21:44 PM PDT by moog
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To: Calpernia
That is what I'm going to do. Read it and look for answers. This sounds too much like propaganda.

That's exactly what it is. Note that as a conservative and as a teacherI would not be in favor of it either, but I also resent it being used against education too. As stated before, as an educator, I've never seen a teacher make a medical decision for a child. If there is any, the parents should have the final say. None of my students are on Ritalin and few if any are at my school. That's not to say one cannot come up with statistics to support either view (I tend to discredit most political statistics that are used to promote political agendas).. I am not saying that what I say applies everywhere. I only know what I see and experience. Just as I don't completely trust the media and their negativity towards religion, the armed forces, the Iraq War, anti-abortion people, the Boy Scouts, etc, I also apply the same towards education.

68 posted on 04/22/2005 1:29:25 PM PDT by moog
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To: moog

>>>I tend to discredit most political statistics that are used to promote political agendas<<<

Here here!

I have a feeling these 'discredit Bush' articles will be coming at machine gun speed with the battle going on over the current probe.

This is just the beginning.

Thanks for the response.


69 posted on 04/22/2005 1:39:08 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
>>>I tend to discredit most political statistics that are used to promote political agendas<<<

Here here!

I have a feeling these 'discredit Bush' articles will be coming at machine gun speed with the battle going on over the current probe.

This is just the beginning.

Thanks for the response

Thank YOU. I sure hope Laura Bush runs for something later on. She is one classy person. That's one thing that you cannot argue against, no matter your political persuasion. The Bushes marry classy wives.

The number one issue above all others today for me is making sure our nation is safe from the terrorists. For if it isn't nothing else will matter.

70 posted on 04/22/2005 2:00:40 PM PDT by moog
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To: francke

Home school I guess is the only way to go then.


71 posted on 04/22/2005 2:02:00 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: moog

It is really a sin that some of the terrorists hold office.


72 posted on 04/22/2005 2:17:03 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
It is really a sin that some of the terrorists hold office. Indeed. The other big thing with me is that we must NOT stop supporting our troops. NO ONE should complain about the job that they do as they are on the front lines fighting for our freedom, away from their families, in some of the most g--forsaken places on Earth.

A teacher at one of the local high schools here recently returned from service in Iraq. He brought three of his buddies with him to an assembly as they talked about serving, what they do, etc. According to the local paper, there wasn't a dry eye left in the place and everyone left much more appreciative of the job that our servicepeople (gotta be pc:) do for ALL of us.

One day, my brother may join them over there (currently he monitors domestic air traffic for the Air Force). I will never be more proud or more supportive than that time when it comes. After all, I'm not as brave as these heroes.

Some years ago when I had some students write a paper about who their heroes were, most put pop stars or sports stars. This year (as I do every year), I had my students do the same thing. The majority of them listed their mom or dad (or both) as their heroes. The others were divided among fire fighters, cops, and the army (I think 1 or 2 were for me, but I was glad that few put that). It sounds like some parents are doing something right. I got my heroes through reading books and grew up with Thomas Edison, Abraham Lincoln, and many others whom I learned about through reading. I had many baseball heroes through the same way. My all-time favorite is Yogi Berra because of his optimistic outlook on life and wonderful character. Dale Murphy was one of my favorite players then. My biggest heroes today are my parents. I can't say enough about the great job they did raising us. The older I get, the more I realize how right they were.

I was introduced rather shockingly to modern heroes. One of the fifty hostages in Iran had attended my elementary school. I remember the yellow ribbons put up everywhere and the pride our school as a whole felt towards the hostage who had endured so much for his country. It was a major celebration when he was released. That's when I became a conservative--right then and there in the third grade.

73 posted on 04/22/2005 2:47:14 PM PDT by moog
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To: moog

You are brave enough to teach future heros :)

We all have a purpose. Yours may not be on the front line; but it is behind the line that still supports the front line.

Special prayers for your brother too ;)


74 posted on 04/22/2005 2:52:52 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: moog; Calpernia; All
I have a feeling these 'discredit Bush' articles ...

I don't see where you get the idea that this is a 'discredit Bush' thing.
It's the 'huge freaking nanny-state' thing.

You think you're defending an attack on President Bush while ignoring that you're about to be flanked by the 'big-government-knows-best' crowd.
Think what you want to if that makes you more comfortable.

If you do then please please don't Google : Ritalin Child Protective Services custody
I wouldn't want you to be uncomfortable.

75 posted on 04/22/2005 2:55:04 PM PDT by dread78645 (Sarcasm tags are for wusses.)
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To: twigs
This so opposes what I believe this president to be about that I want to hear more in the case that I have misinterpreted it.

Tch ... sometimes it's hard to believe yur lyin eyes.

76 posted on 04/22/2005 3:47:40 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Calpernia
I have a feeling these 'discredit Bush' articles will be coming at machine gun speed with the battle going on over the current probe.

You regard this outrageous totalitarian scheme as a "discredit Bush" article?

I hope you are comfortably institutionalized and receiving Christian care.

77 posted on 04/22/2005 3:56:59 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: moog
Just as I don't completely trust the media and their negativity towards religion, the armed forces, the Iraq War, anti-abortion people, the Boy Scouts, etc, I also apply the same towards education.

Madam, this outrageous fascist act is in no way related to teachers or Boy Scouts. Just how much power are you prepared to relegate to your wavy haired, born again President?

Wake up and smell the ovens!

78 posted on 04/22/2005 4:02:51 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: dread78645
I have a feeling these 'discredit Bush' articles ... I don't see where you get the idea that this is a 'discredit Bush' thing. It's the 'huge freaking nanny-state' thing. You think you're defending an attack on President Bush while ignoring that you're about to be flanked by the 'big-government-knows-best' crowd. Think what you want to if that makes you more comfortable. If you do then please please don't Google : Ritalin Child Protective Services custody I wouldn't want you to be uncomfortable.

I guess you only read the one sentence without reading the rest. We can go off the deep end either way. Again, I wil say it, I would not support this if true and would fight against it.

I do have to say that in my state, that there were some making accusations that a lot of teachers were drugging all the kids without parent knowledge and the like. We all wondered where they got their statistics (not national, but for my state) because what was being said simply was not true.

I did take a look at a few of the searches. I was not the least bit uncomfortable UNLESS it was about the guy that died because of Ritalin. And yes, that does make me uncomfortable. Again, I have never suggested using it for any of my students. I did notice that many of the sites were politically biased though.

It seems you are politically inclined. Congrats.

79 posted on 04/22/2005 4:10:31 PM PDT by moog
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To: iconoclast
-----Just as I don't completely trust the media and their negativity towards religion, the armed forces, the Iraq War, anti-abortion people, the Boy Scouts, etc, I also apply the same towards education.----- Madam, this outrageous fascist act is in no way related to teachers or Boy Scouts. Just how much power are you prepared to relegate to your wavy haired, born again President?

Oh drat, another person who read just what he wanted to without reading the rest. MADAM???? Now I'm insulted. That is Mr. to you sir. :)

You missed the point. I don't think the issue is related to them BUT just as I don't necessarily trust the negative and biased reporting towards those issues, I don't necessarily trust all negative and biased reporting towards education. I am simply saying that I can't say this is completely true or all the positions covered without seeing more. I CERTAINLY DO NOT favor it.

Wake up and smell the ovens! Now what the $%%$%$%$ does this refer to or have to do with the article??? I can't even cook worth a darn :). Oh wait a minute, are you makng blueberry muffins again, or just a bunch of donut holes?

As far as the President, I do indeed like him a good deal. No, like you, I do not agree with everything he does or says.

80 posted on 04/22/2005 4:20:29 PM PDT by moog
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