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Habemus Papam...Ad Perpetuitatem?
Tech Central Station ^ | April 21st, 2005 | Rand Simberg

Posted on 04/21/2005 7:56:20 AM PDT by NonZeroSum

The new pope, Benedict XVI, is seventy-eight years old and, by conventional wisdom, it seems unlikely that he'll come anywhere close to matching the length of term of his immediate predecessor, John Paul II, whose twenty-seven-year tenure was the third longest in papal history. In order to do so, he would have to live to be a hundred and five years of age, a feat that no previous pope, and few men, have ever achieved.

In fact, many commentators think that his advanced age (the oldest in over a century) indicates that he's meant to be a short-term, transitional pope, until a new one can emerge for the new century. In addition, some say (including many of those who think him transitional), that his selection by the College of Cardinals was also at least partly to send a message of continuity of the Church and its teachings as they evolved under the previous pope.

Despite his years, though, they may get a lot more continuity than they bargained for. This is, after all, the twenty-first century, in which technological breakthroughs in general, and medical breakthroughs in particular, are coming along at a breakneck and accelerating pace. Such advances, described in the recent books More Than Human by Ramez Naam, and Joel Garreau's Radical Evolution, may upend (among many other things) the stately applecart of traditional papal successions if (as seems increasingly likely) they result in extreme life extension and indefinitely-long healthy human life spans.

Imagine that, a decade or less from now, a breakthrough occurs that cures some underlying, wasting disease from which the new pope might suffer, such as arteriosclerosis, thus buying him an additional decade of life that he might have been denied in its absence? Would he, should he, refuse the treatment?

Assuming that it doesn't require killing embryos, or some other means that is morally problematic to the church in itself, there wouldn't seem to be any existing ecclesiastically doctrinal reason to do so. After all, the previous pope availed himself of all available medical technology up until just days before his death, when he decided that the machinery couldn't offer him a life worth living, with the ability to continue to carry out his duties. Assuming that the current pontiff is otherwise in reasonable health, why turn down a therapy that could help maintain that state? In fact, as Virginia Postrel has pointed out, there is a major split coming down the road between those who oppose life extension techniques because of their means (e.g., cloning embryos), and those who oppose the end of longer life itself, as Leon Kass does. On which side of this divide will the Church (particularly under this pope) fall?

If under the new pontiff (and unlike Professor Kass) it embraces life, then suppose that, a few years later, he is diagnosed with a cancer for which a complete cure then exists. Why would he not avail himself of it? What of an actual rejuvenation treatment (which seems to be at least not in violation of the laws of physics), that would allow him to carry out his papal duties with more vigor? Where, and how, would they draw the line? Where would it end?

Well, if they don't come up with a way, there's no reason in fact to think that it would. It's quite possible that, absent a change in Church policy to set pontifical term limits, or outright assassination, Pope Benedict XVI might be not just pope for life -- all popes have been that -- but pope for a very long life, perhaps so long as to preclude the possibility of a Benedict XVII, or of any other name for that matter. This could be the last time we see a papal enclave. This pontificate (or if not this, then perhaps the next) could be, for practical purposes, the last one.

In a world of conventional life spans, we can always console ourselves with the thought that, if we're stuck with a dud pope, or a particularly nasty and competent dictator, or an overactivist judge, no one lasts forever.

But what if they do? What are the implications of this for the future of the Church? Or of dictators (who are usually the first in their own nations to take advantage of new medical techniques)? Or the Supreme Court? Or indeed, any position which, in our current finite-lived reality, is defined as a term for life? And what will be the response of the Church in particular, which like most churches, partly grew in response to the innate human fear of death, in a world in which death was commonplace, to a world in which it becomes a rarity, only resulting from severe injuries occurring too far from medical facilities?

Which of its traditions will have to give way to the new technological reality? The Church hierarchy is very learned, but this may be a technological change to which they've given little thought, because since the dawn of humanity it's been unthinkable (and to many, mortality with a life span of a few decades is a defining feature of humanity). If they do somehow draw a line, and declare certain life-extending, life-enhancing therapies to be un-Catholic, how many more will flee a Church that now seemingly wants to not only control their sex lives, but how long they live in good health?

If, as many think, this pope was selected to provide at least a temporary bulwark against modernity, how ironic that one of the features of modern life that he might be having to fight could also be one that could allow his own obstruction to it to be permanent?


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KEYWORDS: endless; humannature; lifeextension; piffleaboutthepope; pope
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Food for thought...
1 posted on 04/21/2005 7:56:21 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: NonZeroSum

sounds like a lot of pointless speculation to me. But I do thank you for the post.


2 posted on 04/21/2005 7:59:43 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (CARPE TUNNEL - seize the mouse)
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To: Fudd Fan

Oldest Pope elected since Pope Clement XII in 1730.


3 posted on 04/21/2005 8:02:22 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Fudd Fan

Funny tag line, Fudd.

Oh, yeah, about the ridiculous article: Maybe the writer should contact the Catholic church before he writes any more about the Catholic religion.


4 posted on 04/21/2005 8:04:04 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: NonZeroSum
Interesting link through this article to an unutterable moron bashing the great Leon Kass.
5 posted on 04/21/2005 8:04:59 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: NonZeroSum

From my admittedly limited, lay understanding of Church doctrine, I don't think there is any doctrinal objection to long human life per se - as long as other human life is not sacrificed for its extension (embryonic stem cells, etc.).

But "immortality" has been "around the corner" for quite a while; we've yet to make that turn. Though I wish Benedict XVI a long and successful pontificate guided by the Holy Spirit, I'd be pleasantly surprised if it approaches double decades...


6 posted on 04/21/2005 8:05:20 AM PDT by karnage
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To: NonZeroSum

"This could be the last time we see a papal enclave."

[tongue-in-cheek]I don't think anyone alive today has seen one.

Of course, the papal enclave would be tiny, assuming they occupy the same neighborhood in Heaven.[/tongue-in-cheek]


7 posted on 04/21/2005 8:11:58 AM PDT by Aristotle721 (The Recovering Choir Director - www.cantemusdomino.net/blog)
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To: NonZeroSum

"This could be the last time we see a papal enclave."

[tongue-in-cheek]I don't think anyone alive today has seen one.

Of course, the papal enclave would be tiny, assuming they occupy the same neighborhood in Heaven.[/tongue-in-cheek]


8 posted on 04/21/2005 8:12:20 AM PDT by Aristotle721 (The Recovering Choir Director - www.cantemusdomino.net/blog)
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To: NonZeroSum
After all, the previous pope availed himself of all available medical technology up until just days before his death, when he decided that the machinery couldn't offer him a life worth living, with the ability to continue to carry out his duties.

Amazing how this slipped in. Where does this B.S. come from. Pope John Paul II actually said this?!?!?

9 posted on 04/21/2005 8:21:02 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: NonZeroSum
fter all, the previous pope availed himself of all available medical technology up until just days before his death, when he decided that the machinery couldn't offer him a life worth living, with the ability to continue to carry out his duties.

I disagree. Pope John Paul II set an example by his own suffering and death on how to die with dignity and how we are to accept God's plan, not man's.

10 posted on 04/21/2005 8:27:27 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: NonZeroSum

Heard a quote this morning (likely on Fox) that the new Pope himself has predicted his reign will be a short one.


11 posted on 04/21/2005 8:45:07 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: frogjerk
Pope John Paul II set an example by his own suffering and death on how to die with dignity and how we are to accept God's plan, not man's.

That's the point of the piece. How to determine what's God's plan and what's man's? Did he refuse antibiotics when he was younger, because perhaps it was God's plan for him to die of an infection? He made a conscious decision at a certain point to no longer artificially keep himself alive. That may have been God's plan, in his mind, but it provides no general guidance to the rest of us (or to his successor) as to which medical treatments to use, and which to abjure.

12 posted on 04/21/2005 8:57:23 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: NonZeroSum

The issue of God's will vs human free will has always been a sticky one. My extreme, flippant example is of a man who walks blindfolded across a higheway at rush hour, stating that whatever happens to him will be "God's will." I don't have all the answers but I know it's more complicated than that. :)


13 posted on 04/21/2005 9:26:52 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: wideawake

People who love life don't think that Leon Kass is so great.


14 posted on 04/21/2005 10:45:12 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: NonZeroSum
Leon Kass loves life - I know the man perosnally, BTW - and he wants to preserve its meaning and its relevance.

He also wants to defend not only the lives of rock stars and millionaires but of the unborn, the infirm and the elderly.

15 posted on 04/21/2005 10:47:34 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
He also wants to defend not only the lives of rock stars and millionaires but of the unborn, the infirm and the elderly.

For the length of time that he deems sufficient.

16 posted on 04/21/2005 10:51:44 AM PDT by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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To: ThinkDifferent
For the length of time that he deems sufficient.

No, for the natural length of their lives.

17 posted on 04/21/2005 10:57:47 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
No, for the natural length of their lives.

Define "natural". Why is penicillin ok but rejuvenation therapy to reverse the aging process not?

18 posted on 04/21/2005 11:04:12 AM PDT by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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To: ThinkDifferent

Staph is a disease. Getting old isn't.


19 posted on 04/21/2005 11:10:40 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Fudd Fan

Totally pointless speculation.


20 posted on 04/21/2005 11:15:08 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Rule # 4. When liberals have factual evidence that their position is wrong they ignore the evidence)
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