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1 posted on 04/20/2005 8:13:16 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Mario Cuomo better bone up on his oratory skills because, heaven knows, when he meets St Peter at the gate, he's gonna need them.


2 posted on 04/20/2005 8:16:07 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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"I doubt if he understands it as well as he should, but then, whom does he speak with who might enlighten him, without giving a conservative spin to the explanation?"

God could perhaps be consulted through prayer.

3 posted on 04/20/2005 8:17:13 PM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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MCbrien doesn't understand that the pope rejects his world view . Pope Benedict understand implicitly the views of someone like John Kerry. probably beters than Kerry himself does


4 posted on 04/20/2005 8:19:53 PM PDT by RobbyS (JMJ)
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If you are a Republican who is for the death penalty, that is O.K., but if you are a Democrat for choice, that is not O.K.

Right. What about it? You got a problem with that?

Is the Death Penalty Morally Equal to Abortions?

6 posted on 04/20/2005 8:22:26 PM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel
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You say to the bishops, look, I respect you, I want to stay in the club, I try to live by your rules, but let's not be selective

Hear that, kids? You can sin all you want, and still stay in "the club" that is the Catholic Church.

These Blue-Zone Boomers still have no idea what's coming.
7 posted on 04/20/2005 8:23:33 PM PDT by horse_doc
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Mario, like always, selectively quotes the Church. Catholic teaching says nothing about the war in Iraq. Pope John Paul II stood against it, but said nothing about how participating in the war was, for a Catholic, sinful activity. On the matter of the death penalty the Pope spoke more directly, but he called it wrong in almost all circumstances. Again he never said that a Catholic participating in a court prescribed execution was sinful. On the other hand abortion is most certainly identified as EVIL, and participation or facilitation of the taking of innocent life is always a sin of great gravity. It's just unfortunate that the mental media midgets who interview Cuomo don't know or don't care to know the great differences in the Church positions on these topics.


8 posted on 04/20/2005 8:24:16 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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To: neverdem

It's so like the NYT to put the word "life" in quotation marks in this headline.

Anyone who doesn't think the very definition of "life" is presently up for grabs should take a look at this headline.


9 posted on 04/20/2005 8:30:20 PM PDT by bourbon
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The MSM has been seething about the outpouring of affection for JPII. Now that the Church has chosen someone of similar thinking, i.e. a conservative, to be Pope, they're pulling out all the long knives. They're venting because, like the last 2 Presidential elections, they've been unable to shape the outcome to their liking.


10 posted on 04/20/2005 8:30:41 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (From Roe v Wade to Terri Schiavo, the RATS have become a death cult...)
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WOE to that "priest" Fr. O'Brien.

Stupid Bill O'Reilly had on a FABULOUS Priest tonite, Fr. Gerald Murray (?) a Canon Law Priest and BOR almost was spitting when Fr. Murray was so anti abortion and hard lined about pro-abortion politicians and Americans in general. It was a thing to behold!!!

12 posted on 04/20/2005 8:34:01 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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The pro-death community is too impatient.


17 posted on 04/20/2005 8:43:43 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: neverdem

In 1960 there was no Roe v Wade decision, nor an imminent social security crisis due to falling numbers of populaces to support the "Great Society".


If the Catholic Church takes a different path, a more liberal path, you can expect an expansion of an "Ingrate Society" that will eventually devour itself, just what so many lefties and anarchists have been trying to facilitate for so long.



20 posted on 04/20/2005 8:47:32 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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Senator Patrick Leahy, Democrat of Vermont and prominent Catholic, agreed: "American bishops always have been involved in politics and been very selective. If you are a Republican who is for the death penalty, that is O.K., but if you are a Democrat for choice, that is not O.K."

Wow. It's almost like Leahy understands. Almost ....

26 posted on 04/20/2005 9:05:32 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (“When you’re hungry, you eat; when you’re a frog, you leap; if you’re scared, get a dog.”)
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But the Rev. Richard McBrien, a liberal theologian at Notre Dame, said in an interview conducted by e-mail that he wondered how much the new pope understood the more liberal strain of American Catholicism represented by leaders like Mr. Kerry or Mr. Cuomo. "I doubt if he understands it as well as he should,

ROFL -- he's only been dealing with dissenters and heretics for the past 20 years, I THINK HE UNDERSTANDS THEM PRETTY WELL!

28 posted on 04/20/2005 9:07:32 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (“When you’re hungry, you eat; when you’re a frog, you leap; if you’re scared, get a dog.”)
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but then, whom does he speak with who might enlighten him, without giving a conservative spin to the explanation?"

Ah, God??

32 posted on 04/20/2005 9:11:59 PM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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35 posted on 04/20/2005 9:14:59 PM PDT by Samwise (I've got my towel.)
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Senator Patrick Leahy, Democrat of Vermont and prominent Catholic, agreed: "American bishops always have been involved in politics and been very selective. If you are a Republican who is for the death penalty, that is O.K., but if you are a Democrat for choice, that is not O.K." Here's a clue, Patty, you old braindead fart, there is a great gulf between slaughtering by choice the completely innocent while alive in their mother's womb and executing a heinous criminal. That Leahy doesn't see the huge difference is yet another clarifying example of the serial killing advocates of the democrat party leadership who need to be kept from sharing in the body and blood of The Christ. [Democrats are such disgusting secularists in church clothing. Reminds me of the story Jesus told regarding the marriage feast and the wedding garments. Lots of cold lamps infesting the democrap party.]
37 posted on 04/20/2005 9:18:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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McAuliffe is an idiot of enormous proportions.....
39 posted on 04/20/2005 9:22:45 PM PDT by b4its2late (Being "over the hill" is much better than being under it!)
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"You say to the bishops, look, I respect you, I want to stay in the club, I try to live by your rules, but let's not be selective."

The club? THE CLUB!?!

40 posted on 04/20/2005 9:23:16 PM PDT by McGavin999
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He's known as very much in line with the doctrine of the church and a strong enforcer of that doctrine."

Maybe we should call him "the Hammer".

41 posted on 04/20/2005 9:26:36 PM PDT by Defiant (Amend the Constitution to nullify all decisions not founded on original intent.)
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To: neverdem

Leahy, Kennedy, Kerry, McAwful and co. are all pro-choice.

They have a choice: they can believe in the teachings of the Church OR they can get their miserable asses out the door!

I'm sooooo sick of Dems posing as Catholics. It's sickening.


47 posted on 04/20/2005 9:35:38 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (Hillary for President? She wants to be Pope!!!!)
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