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Reiner aims for [free] pre-school for all 4-year-olds [Meathead's war on 'the rich' continues]
North County Times (San Diego) ^
| April 19, 2005
Posted on 04/20/2005 2:57:30 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
I always thought pre school was day care. Thats basically what were talking about, right?
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:01:42 PM PDT
by
Who dat?
To: Who dat?
Yes, and as we all know, day care not provided by the parents is GOOD for children.
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:02:48 PM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
To: John Jorsett
Para Los Ninos.They can say it in Spanish, or they can say it in English, it always translates into more money, more money, more money...
for the children
To: John Jorsett
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:03:44 PM PDT
by
Rakkasan1
(The MRS wanted to go to an expensive place to eat so I took her to the gas station.)
To: John Jorsett
The Governor of Tennessee is currently stumping the state selling a similar program. They passed a lottery for college scholarshipe and it isn't working out so they are dragging the babies into the conflict.
Ostracize a teacher today....
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:05:50 PM PDT
by
bert
(Peace is only halftime !)
To: John Jorsett
The Governor of Tennessee is currently stumping the state selling a similar program. They passed a lottery for college scholarshipe and it isn't working out so they are dragging the babies into the conflict.
Ostracize a teacher today....
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:05:53 PM PDT
by
bert
(Peace is only halftime !)
Comment #8 Removed by Moderator
To: John Jorsett
Yes, let us get our evil hands on you children's young minds a couple of years sooner!
Abandon Government Schools!
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:06:53 PM PDT
by
blues_guitarist
(http://mundane-noodle.blogspot.com)
To: John Jorsett
Yep. More socialism. I mean no one asks the basic question of whether parents should pay for preskrool. Rob Reiner and the Left think the rich should pay for this wonderful new freebie. California is dead-broke and the Democrats have no problem coming up with yet another entitlement program! I expect it to pass since the Reiner initiative targets rich liberals and its "all for the chilrun." I'm just saddened at how my state is being ruined by the leftist wackos who run it.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:08:29 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: John Jorsett
Well, I'm only 17, and I've never attended a pre-school thing when I was 4, and I still rank in the upper 80's/lower 90's on my standardized tests. I dunno what that WHOLE year would do for a 4 year old who would rather eat sleep and play games.
To: DTwistedSisterS
I dunno what that WHOLE year would do for a 4 year old who would rather eat sleep and play games.It would let the State get an earlier start on indoctrinating them. Some of you apparently are resisting the inculcation of PCness, so evidently they're hoping to catch kids at a more malleable age.
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:13:35 PM PDT
by
John Jorsett
(email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
To: conservalaura
One of the funniest South Park episodes had Rob Reiner coming to South Park to make it smoke free.
Kyle: But... isn't that, kind of, lying?
Rob Reiner: Uh, we're just leveling out the playing field. [dabs his forehead] The tobacco companies lie to you about the dangers of smoking. If we're gonna take them down, we've gotta lie right back! [begins to sniff around after detecting cigarette smoke, then focuses in on the source. The boys look as well. The source is a man wearing a Buds Light Beer har, enjoying a drink and a smoke at the bar] Oh my God! [coughs loudly, but fails to get the man's attention. He rises from the booth and walks up to the smoker] Excuse me!
BUDS Man: Yes?
Rob Reiner: Would you mind putting that death stick out?!
BUDS Man: But, uh, this is a bar.
Rob Reiner: Isn't smoking illegal in bars here?
Bartender: Not in Colorado
Rob Reiner: Oh my God! What kind of backward hick state is this?!
BUDS Man: Look man, I work fourteen hours a day at the saw mill. I just got off work and I need to relax.
Rob Reiner: Well when I relax I just go to my vacation house in Hawaii!
BUDS Man: [getting irritated] I ain't got a vacation house in Hawaii!
Rob Reiner: Yuh your vacation house in Mexico, then, whatever it is! Look, you are putting my life and these boys' lives in danger by smoking that in here! And I'm not gonna tolerate it! I will end smoking in bars in Colorado! There will be no more smoking here!
South Park Reiner Episode
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:16:40 PM PDT
by
Republican Red
(DU: ''Reality sucks. That's the problem. We want another reality.'')
To: Republican Red
I remember that episode. They had Reiner scarfing down food continually, and sweating profusely. Funny and probably accurate. They sure got his "shut up, it's for your own good" attitude down.
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:21:17 PM PDT
by
John Jorsett
(email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
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To: John Jorsett
According to a RAND Corp. study, the state would get $2.62 back for every dollar put into quality preschool for all 4-year-olds.Years ago, when California was the Golden State, we got along fine without gov't. preschools. And we had the best schools in the country.
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:24:56 PM PDT
by
Penner
To: Penner
"Quality preskrools" huh? Lemme tell ya, with all the billions invested in skrools, we're facing an educational wasteland. But hey, even though we're broke - by all means let's waste more money. The government will give us quality schools for tots.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:28:51 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: John Jorsett
To paraphrase P. J. O'Rouke, if you think day care is expensive now, just wait till you see what it costs once it's free.
To: DTwistedSisterS
You are right on. I remember years ago reading about a study done on Soviet educational experiments. When the Cold War was going hot and heavy, the Communists decided it would be to their advantage to get kids through school sooner, the better to become productive apparatchiks. So, instead of starting school at age 5, they started them a year earlier.
One problem: For an unknown reason, after three or four years of school, these kids kind of "burned out" and stalled on learning anything for about a year. In the end, they didn't become productive citizens any sooner and cost the education establishment more for that wasted year.
Everyone needs a childhood. If they don't get it during the early years, they will take it later as adolescents or adults. So you are correct in thinking the extra year won't help much. Now, kids who are disadvantaged because they are not being raised properly might benefit from some help but not the kind of educator's full employment program envisioned by Reiner.
To top it off, Reiner's source of funding is extremely volatile, depending as it does primarily on the stock market. Yet it would become an entitlement program so the funding would have to come from somewhere else when the stock market bit into the "rich peoples" income.
To: John Jorsett
Hey Meathead - you want the give the same people who screw up K-12 a head start? STIFLE YOURSELF!
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posted on
04/20/2005 3:34:41 PM PDT
by
Hildy
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