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Reiner aims for [free] pre-school for all 4-year-olds [Meathead's war on 'the rich' continues]
North County Times (San Diego) ^ | April 19, 2005

Posted on 04/20/2005 2:57:30 PM PDT by John Jorsett

LOS ANGELES - Filmmaker Rob Reiner and a coalition of business, labor and education leaders Tuesday touted plans for a June 2006 ballot initiative to help offer preschool for all 4-year-olds statewide.

"Providing access to preschool for every California child is the key to creating a level playing field in California; it is a critical step toward reforming our education system," Reiner said.

"We need to pass this initiative now so that no more California children fall behind as they languish on preschool waiting lists," Reiner said at a news conference at Para Los Ninos, a preschool near downtown Los Angeles, where 106 children are on the waiting list.

The actor, director, producer and writer is chairman of First 5 California, which was established following passage of a 1998 initiative to use tobacco tax dollars to fund programs that promote early childhood development for expectant parents and children through age 5.

The Preschool for All initiative, which Reiner unveiled yesterday in Sacramento, would affect the wealthiest 1 percent of Californians. It would increase the tax rate by 1.7 percent on annual income over $800,000 for married couples or $400,000 for individuals.

The announcement follows the launch of a universal preschool program in Los Angeles County that aims to eventually offer quality preschool to all of the county's 153,000 4-year-olds.

Less than half of the county's 4-year-olds are now enrolled in some form of preschool, according to First 5 LA.

According to a recent survey by Fight Crime: Invest in Kids California, three out of four subsidized programs have waiting lists.

Working families whose children do not qualify for subsidies often cannot afford the cost of private preschool, which can be more expensive than tuition to state universities, proponents of the ballot initiative say.

"Preschool is an idea whose time has come," said state Superintendent of Public Instruction Jack O'Connell. "Solid research tells us that investing in preschool is not only the right thing to do for our children, it is an investment that will pay tremendous economic and social dividends in the long run."

According to a RAND Corp. study, the state would get $2.62 back for every dollar put into quality preschool for all 4-year-olds.

Children who have been to preschool are more likely to be productive workers, avoid trouble with the law and contribute to the economy as adults, according to the study.

"We know good preschool programs put kids on the right road, through school and in life," said Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca. "We can build these positive programs for children now, or build jail cells for many of them later. I know what I would rather do."

Assemblywoman Wilma Chan, D-Oakland, introduced legislation which, coordinated with the initiative, would lay the foundation for a statewide quality preschool system.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: education; nannystate; robreiner; universalpreschool
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1 posted on 04/20/2005 2:57:31 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

I always thought “pre school” was “day care.” That’s basically what we’re talking about, right?


2 posted on 04/20/2005 3:01:42 PM PDT by Who dat?
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To: Who dat?

Yes, and as we all know, day care not provided by the parents is GOOD for children.


3 posted on 04/20/2005 3:02:48 PM PDT by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: John Jorsett
Para Los Ninos.

They can say it in Spanish, or they can say it in English, it always translates into more money, more money, more money...

for the children

4 posted on 04/20/2005 3:03:19 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: John Jorsett

http://www.barbneal.com/wav/allinfam/athiest.wav


5 posted on 04/20/2005 3:03:44 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (The MRS wanted to go to an expensive place to eat so I took her to the gas station.)
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To: John Jorsett

The Governor of Tennessee is currently stumping the state selling a similar program. They passed a lottery for college scholarshipe and it isn't working out so they are dragging the babies into the conflict.

Ostracize a teacher today....


6 posted on 04/20/2005 3:05:50 PM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: John Jorsett

The Governor of Tennessee is currently stumping the state selling a similar program. They passed a lottery for college scholarshipe and it isn't working out so they are dragging the babies into the conflict.

Ostracize a teacher today....


7 posted on 04/20/2005 3:05:53 PM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: John Jorsett

Yes, let us get our evil hands on you children's young minds a couple of years sooner!

Abandon Government Schools!

9 posted on 04/20/2005 3:06:53 PM PDT by blues_guitarist (http://mundane-noodle.blogspot.com)
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To: John Jorsett
Yep. More socialism. I mean no one asks the basic question of whether parents should pay for preskrool. Rob Reiner and the Left think the rich should pay for this wonderful new freebie. California is dead-broke and the Democrats have no problem coming up with yet another entitlement program! I expect it to pass since the Reiner initiative targets rich liberals and its "all for the chilrun." I'm just saddened at how my state is being ruined by the leftist wackos who run it.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
10 posted on 04/20/2005 3:08:29 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Well, I'm only 17, and I've never attended a pre-school thing when I was 4, and I still rank in the upper 80's/lower 90's on my standardized tests. I dunno what that WHOLE year would do for a 4 year old who would rather eat sleep and play games.


11 posted on 04/20/2005 3:09:22 PM PDT by DTwistedSisterS
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To: DTwistedSisterS
I dunno what that WHOLE year would do for a 4 year old who would rather eat sleep and play games.

It would let the State get an earlier start on indoctrinating them. Some of you apparently are resisting the inculcation of PCness, so evidently they're hoping to catch kids at a more malleable age.

12 posted on 04/20/2005 3:13:35 PM PDT by John Jorsett (email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
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To: conservalaura
One of the funniest South Park episodes had Rob Reiner coming to South Park to make it smoke free.

Kyle: But... isn't that, kind of, lying?

Rob Reiner: Uh, we're just leveling out the playing field. [dabs his forehead] The tobacco companies lie to you about the dangers of smoking. If we're gonna take them down, we've gotta lie right back! [begins to sniff around after detecting cigarette smoke, then focuses in on the source. The boys look as well. The source is a man wearing a Buds Light Beer har, enjoying a drink and a smoke at the bar] Oh my God! [coughs loudly, but fails to get the man's attention. He rises from the booth and walks up to the smoker] Excuse me!

BUDS Man: Yes?

Rob Reiner: Would you mind putting that death stick out?!

BUDS Man: But, uh, this is a bar.

Rob Reiner: Isn't smoking illegal in bars here?

Bartender: Not in Colorado

Rob Reiner: Oh my God! What kind of backward hick state is this?!

BUDS Man: Look man, I work fourteen hours a day at the saw mill. I just got off work and I need to relax.

Rob Reiner: Well when I relax I just go to my vacation house in Hawaii!

BUDS Man: [getting irritated] I ain't got a vacation house in Hawaii!

Rob Reiner: Yuh your vacation house in Mexico, then, whatever it is! Look, you are putting my life and these boys' lives in danger by smoking that in here! And I'm not gonna tolerate it! I will end smoking in bars in Colorado! There will be no more smoking here!

South Park Reiner Episode
13 posted on 04/20/2005 3:16:40 PM PDT by Republican Red (DU: ''Reality sucks. That's the problem. We want another reality.'')
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To: Republican Red

I remember that episode. They had Reiner scarfing down food continually, and sweating profusely. Funny and probably accurate. They sure got his "shut up, it's for your own good" attitude down.


14 posted on 04/20/2005 3:21:17 PM PDT by John Jorsett (email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
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To: John Jorsett
According to a RAND Corp. study, the state would get $2.62 back for every dollar put into quality preschool for all 4-year-olds.

Years ago, when California was the Golden State, we got along fine without gov't. preschools. And we had the best schools in the country.

16 posted on 04/20/2005 3:24:56 PM PDT by Penner
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To: Penner
"Quality preskrools" huh? Lemme tell ya, with all the billions invested in skrools, we're facing an educational wasteland. But hey, even though we're broke - by all means let's waste more money. The government will give us quality schools for tots.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
17 posted on 04/20/2005 3:28:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: John Jorsett

To paraphrase P. J. O'Rouke, if you think day care is expensive now, just wait till you see what it costs once it's free.


18 posted on 04/20/2005 3:30:39 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: DTwistedSisterS

You are right on. I remember years ago reading about a study done on Soviet educational experiments. When the Cold War was going hot and heavy, the Communists decided it would be to their advantage to get kids through school sooner, the better to become productive apparatchiks. So, instead of starting school at age 5, they started them a year earlier.

One problem: For an unknown reason, after three or four years of school, these kids kind of "burned out" and stalled on learning anything for about a year. In the end, they didn't become productive citizens any sooner and cost the education establishment more for that wasted year.

Everyone needs a childhood. If they don't get it during the early years, they will take it later as adolescents or adults. So you are correct in thinking the extra year won't help much. Now, kids who are disadvantaged because they are not being raised properly might benefit from some help but not the kind of educator's full employment program envisioned by Reiner.

To top it off, Reiner's source of funding is extremely volatile, depending as it does primarily on the stock market. Yet it would become an entitlement program so the funding would have to come from somewhere else when the stock market bit into the "rich peoples" income.


19 posted on 04/20/2005 3:33:21 PM PDT by caseinpoint (IMHO)
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To: John Jorsett

Hey Meathead - you want the give the same people who screw up K-12 a head start? STIFLE YOURSELF!


20 posted on 04/20/2005 3:34:41 PM PDT by Hildy
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